Edith Stein's demise
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Edith Stein's demise
One of the more famous figures, the 'official' story is that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz. What is the consensus here for her real cause of death and the details.
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bookingman wrote:One of the more famous figures, the 'official' story is that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz..
Do you know which one? “The little red house”? “the little white house,”? Crematorium I in Auschwitz stammlager?
She died in late 1942 and Kremas II-V were built/completed after that in 1943.
"Surprisingly, however, in the book [Schlomo] Venezia does not describe it at all: he
does not indicate its size, its location in the building..." - C. Mattogno: Sonderkommando III
does not indicate its size, its location in the building..." - C. Mattogno: Sonderkommando III
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I am still waiting for official figures on exactly how many died in the Auschwitz I gas chamber shown to millions of tourists today. So far the only figure I heard is "several hundred thousand" for crema II and III and a "smaller number" for IV and V. Nothing for the red/white house and the aforementioned tourist hotspot, not even estimates.
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Re: Edith Stein's demise
HeiligeSturm wrote:bookingman wrote:One of the more famous figures, the 'official' story is that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz..
Do you know which one? “The little red house”? “the little white house,”? Crematorium I in Auschwitz stammlager?
She died in late 1942 and Kremas II-V were built/completed after that in 1943.
How did she die?
Re: Edith Stein's demise
bookingman wrote:How did she die?
When asked this question, I usually answer: what do the files at ITS of Bad Arolsen tell about her?
Was that basic research ever made? If yes, what are the results?
As such research is not open for anyone, I couldn't make it by myself.
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Good to know that the advocates of the orthodox narrative don't even know with certainty WHEN she died.
Since even the orthodox narrative doesn't claim that she was killed on arrival, one can deduce that she was registered in the camp records. Wasn't her death recorded in the death registers of the camp?
On 7 August 1942, early in the morning, 987 Jews were deported to the Auschwitz concentration camp. It was probably on 9 August that Sr. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross, her sister, and many more of her people were killed in a mass gas chamber.[3][9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Ste ... and_martyr
Since even the orthodox narrative doesn't claim that she was killed on arrival, one can deduce that she was registered in the camp records. Wasn't her death recorded in the death registers of the camp?
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed. "
Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed. "
Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925
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hermod wrote:Good to know that the advocates of the orthodox narrative don't even know with certainty WHEN she died.On 7 August 1942, early in the morning, 987 Jews were deported to the Auschwitz concentration camp. It was probably on 9 August that Sr. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross, her sister, and many more of her people were killed in a mass gas chamber.[3][9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Ste ... and_martyr
Since even the orthodox narrative doesn't claim that she was killed on arrival, one can deduce that she was registered in the camp records. Wasn't her death recorded in the death registers of the camp?
Indeed, if you search the Auschwitz prisoner database below for "Edith Stein," you will find her name and date of birth, October 12, 1891, as a registered prisoner at Auschwitz.
http://auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschwitz-prisoners/
However, the source of the information is listed as "Judentransport aus den Niederlanden - Lager Westerbork - Transportlists created in Westerbork."
It explains:
Database of Dutch Jews of transports from Westerbork to Auschwitz include more than 46 000 people in 51 separate transportlists. These convoys were arriving to Auschwitz-Birkenau since 15 July 1942 till 23 February 1943. Majority of the deportees were murdered in the gas chambers immediately after selection on the unloading ramp - we do not know their names. The rest were registered as a prisoners in the camp, but only a small group of them managed to survived and get back homes.
I'm not able to find the original source of this database, though.
Re: Edith Stein's demise
Is Edith Stein mentioned in any document(s) from the Arolsen archives or in the Auschwitz death books?
Interesting paper on this topic by Pr. Faurisson:
viewtopic.php?p=25914#p25914
Interesting paper on this topic by Pr. Faurisson:
viewtopic.php?p=25914#p25914
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed. "
Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed. "
Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925
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Re: Edith Stein's demise
bookingman wrote:HeiligeSturm wrote:bookingman wrote:One of the more famous figures, the 'official' story is that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz..
Do you know which one? “The little red house”? “the little white house,”? Crematorium I in Auschwitz stammlager?
She died in late 1942 and Kremas II-V were built/completed after that in 1943.
How did she die?
You wrote "that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz" and I was asking do you know which one it was?
Obviously she did not die in the "gas chambers" of Birkenau according to the officially accepted timeline.
She could have died of typhus like Anne Frank at Bergen-Belsen.
She is famous but her time at Auschwitz is not well known.
Of course her Jewish background gives people the assumption that she was gassed just like some people still believe that Anne Frank was gassed.
"Surprisingly, however, in the book [Schlomo] Venezia does not describe it at all: he
does not indicate its size, its location in the building..." - C. Mattogno: Sonderkommando III
does not indicate its size, its location in the building..." - C. Mattogno: Sonderkommando III
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Re: Edith Stein's demise
HeiligeSturm wrote:You wrote "that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz" and I was asking do you know which one it was?
Obviously she did not die in the "gas chambers" of Birkenau according to the officially accepted timeline.
She could have died of typhus like Anne Frank at Bergen-Belsen.
She is famous but her time at Auschwitz is not well known.
Of course her Jewish background gives people the assumption that she was gassed just like some people still believe that Anne Frank was gassed.
I was quoting the official narrative. Check it out for yourself, I haven't seen them go into it with more detail than "She was gassed in Auschwitz". I was hoping to find more here.
Actually even the mainstream doesn't say Anne Frank was gassed.
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