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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Sannhet » 2 years 9 months ago (Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:37 am)

The Principal William Latson case remains current in the South Florida news as of this weekend, and probably will be back again when or if he is reinstated.

Judge: Reinstate Boca principal in Holocaust emails incident
by Eliot Kleinberg | Palm Beach Post

August 14, 2020
William Latson should be reinstated but reassigned from Spanish River High School in Boca Raton, which he had led since 2011, according to the ruling.
The judge said two former superintendents, Art Johnson and Ben Marlin, both testified that the district leaped almost directly to the firing, sidestepping a traditional ascending series of disciplinary actions.
Latson later apologized and insisted that he did believe the Holocaust was a historical fact.
Later, during a critical phase of the district’s actions in the incident, supervisors were unable to reach Latson. His lawyers blamed poor cellphone service in Jamaica, where Latson was on a previously scheduled vacation. But Thursday’s administrative ruling said Latson placed nine calls that day and received four, adding, “apparently his cellular phone was functioning during this time.”

The court case also ends up a mini Holocaust Trial ala Zundel:
The judge also said that, while the school district can’t prevent a student or parent “from holding the absurd ‘belief’ that the Holocaust did not happen,” it does mandate students are taught the difference between history and opinion.

This court case has earned a place in Holocaust Revisionist history. Given how unprecedented it was to abruptly fire this man and all else that followed (including his apology tour of Holocaust museums), we have another signpost in where things stood on the status of Open Debate on the Holocaust as of 2018/19.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Clay » 2 years 9 months ago (Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:40 am)

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The judge also said that, while the school district can’t prevent a student or parent “from holding the absurd ‘belief’ that the Holocaust did not happen,” it does mandate students are taught the difference between history and opinion.


Shouldn't students be taught the difference between science and "history" as well then?

So this is not a historical issue per se; this is clearly about - SCIENCE - and all that is being done here is the common-sense act of simply asking to see the alleged “archaeological proof” that the true-believers insist is so “undeniable.”

http://thisisaboutscience.com/


How hard would it have been for him to demand that the orthodox version of the holohoax that is being taught in his school be held up to skeptical inquiry and the scientific method?

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby borjastick » 2 years 9 months ago (Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:47 am)

It's the 'didn't happen' part that needs to be defined in school classrooms first of all. Then they can have a rational discussion on what did and didn't happen and the numbers involved.
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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 9 months ago (Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:23 pm)

borjastick wrote:It's the 'didn't happen' part that needs to be defined in school classrooms first of all.

Which is exactly why they won't do it.

See: viewtopic.php?t=12923
Or Lipstadt's new book, where she lies, saying "For deniers to be right, all survivors would have to be wrong" viewtopic.php?t=12271
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Sannhet » 2 years 9 months ago (Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:41 pm)

This "Holocaust-blaspheming principal" story is, on grand scale, a very minor one. He is one principal of ca. 25,000 principals of high schools in the US. All else equal, a story like this, a principal fired over some dispute, is worthy of local news for sure but not of national coverage. It will surprise no regulars at CODOH Forum, though, that this story was dubbed important enough for some reason that the New York Times ran it nationally:

Principal in Holocaust Dispute Shouldn’t Have Been Fired, Judge Rules
By Johnny Diaz | New York Times
August 14, 2020

That headline, as phrased, I think is good for Revisionism.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Clay » 2 years 9 months ago (Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:32 pm)

Lamprecht:

...Here is a story of a very angry, troubled lady who spent a year terrorizing an African American school principal for expressing tolerance of differing viewpoints. This woman, for some unbeknownst reason, insists that everyone believe in 6 million dead jews. When confronted with the fact that not everyone has to believe the same things, she became belligerent. :bounce:


https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/2019 ... caust-fact or https://archive.is/g1JEE
Spanish River High’s principal refused to call the Holocaust a fact

Posted Jul 5, 2019 at 12:01 AM

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“Not everyone believes the Holocaust happened,” he wrote...

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If only he had wrote:

"Not everyone believes the Holocaust happened as is alleged in most educational settings. We try to emphasize the use of science to help students separate fact from fiction. Would you be willing to have your holocaust beliefs held up to skeptical inquiry and the scientific method as a test of our teaching methods?"

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Sannhet » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:46 am)

The story has now spilled over onto the pages of Israeli (English-language) newspapers:

Court rules principal shouldn't have been fired for doubting Holocaust
In October, the Palm Beach County School Board fired Latson from his post at Spanish River Community High following a four-month suspension.

by MARCY OSTER / JTA
Jerusalem Post | AUGUST 18, 2020
Court: Florida principal should not have been fired for Holocaust uncertainty
Judge rules William Latson should have been reprimanded or reassigned after telling parent he can’t say Shoah is ‘factual, historical event’

by Marcy Oster | appearing in The Times of Israel
August 18, 2020

These Israeli media outlets (surprisingly?) carry the fairest/clearest headlines of them all.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:53 am)

Sannhet wrote:These Israeli media outlets (surprisingly?) carry the fairest/clearest headlines of them all.

Not very surprising at all, Israeli and Jewish news outlets often are the most honest on these sorts of issues. They get to say things that would result in others being labelled "Anti-Semitic neo-Nazis" for doing so.

To be fair though, Latson never once questioned or denied the "Holocaust" - he simply acknowledged that some people do not believe in it, and that's an indisputable fact. When asked if he believed it happened, he said that he does. But who knows if he's telling the truth here? He probably did a little bit of research after this whole ordeal, especially when he was out of work and had more free time.
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Hektor » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:00 pm)

borjastick wrote:It's the 'didn't happen' part that needs to be defined in school classrooms first of all. Then they can have a rational discussion on what did and didn't happen and the numbers involved.



If the notion that "it didn't happen" is really that absurd, why are they so uptight about having a sober discussion about it then?

People may notice that they are trying to sell a package deal and that the most "valuable" part of the package is actually propaganda & fraud.
It could become a problem for many if that became common knowledge, realized.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Clay » 2 years 9 months ago (Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:47 am)

Lamprecht:

Latson never once questioned or denied the "Holocaust" - he simply acknowledged that some people do not believe in it


So what would be the best response from someone who knows the truth about the "holocaust" if this kind of thing happened to them?

I think Larson should have gone on the offensive, but he may not have known enough to effectively do so.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 9 months ago (Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:02 pm)

Clay wrote:So what would be the best response from someone who knows the truth about the "holocaust" if this kind of thing happened to them?

I think Larson should have gone on the offensive, but he may not have known enough to effectively do so.

I do wonder why he would say that on an email and then completely backtrack and apologize.
How often does this happen, really? For the "Holocaust" not often - and it may be the holy of the holies - but in general, "politically incorrect" statements by public figures are exposed all the time.

A sports commentator recently said a bad word on-air and now is apologizing over it: https://nypost.com/2020/08/21/thom-bren ... be-better/

I do not know why they nearly always apologize like this; usually, it doesn't make it any better. Maybe he has some financial need to maintain his career and doesn't want to lose his job, and is hoping for forgiveness?
Latson does not appear have any sort of "expert" qualifications on this topic so he will be [fallaciosly] attacked on that basis alone; I would say if he was to go offensive on this he could have pointed elsewhere and said: "they had some convincing arguments, care to refute them for everyone else to see? We can all learn from this."

Censorship of opposing arguments has become so normalized now that I do wonder exactly how that would have played out if it happened. The "I'm sorry please forgive me" shtick is so overused. The story is no longer entertaining.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Clay » 2 years 9 months ago (Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:24 am)

flimflam:

This is a link to the Spanish River High School staff https://srhs.palmbeachschools.org/staff_directory

I suggest that CODOH sent an email to each staff member making the case that the holohoax should be the subject of open debate because it did not happen. That is, the main point of the letter should not be 'open debate' but that the holocaust is a hoax. The letter should be entirely factual and documented ... the idea is to provoke thought ... and the staff should be invited to discuss the letter on CODOH, anonymously. ..


Why not simply challenge them to put their money where their mouths are and prove what they claim has been proven? There's a very powerful phycological effect when someone claims something is true but is afraid to make a bet that they can prove it.

To cravenly refuse to bet that you can prove what you allege has been proven, is a tacit admission that you know what you allege - has not been proven.

What kind of self-deceiving coward calls a skeptic of their unsubstantiated allegations a “denier” - yet is unwilling to bet that they can prove what they so vehemently allege is true?

http://thisisaboutscience.com/

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 8 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:08 pm)

Looks like Latson got his job back (or at least a different job in the district) plus over $150,000. I wonder if this would have happened if he was White instead of Black? Surely it would have, because of "White privilege" :lol: :roll:

School board votes to reinstate Florida principal fired for Holocaust denial
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https://www.jns.org/school-board-votes- ... st-denial/ | http://web.archive.org/web/2020/https:/ ... st-denial/
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Hektor » 2 years 7 months ago (Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:13 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:Looks like Latson got his job back (or at least a different job in the district) plus over $150,000. I wonder if this would have happened if he was White instead of Black? Surely it would have, because of "White privilege" :lol: :roll:

School board votes to reinstate Florida principal fired for Holocaust denial
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https://www.jns.org/school-board-votes- ... st-denial/ | http://web.archive.org/web/2020/https:/ ... st-denial/

Actually, I think "his skin" saved "his ass".

Congratulations to having your job and a big bonus back, Mr. Latson. I hope this encourages other teachers to take a more open-minded stance on the Holocaust!

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Breker » 2 years 7 months ago (Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:02 pm)

Why do so many 'whites' refer to blacks as 'African-American' while they do not correctly refer to themselves as European-American, European, etc.?
'White' rather seems to be a negative, lesser-than, degrading term.
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