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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby Callahan » 4 years 5 months ago (Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:41 pm)

Dresden wrote:Richard Gage's Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth( https://www.ae911truth.org/ ) has the signatures of over 3,000 Architects and Engineers(many of whom own their own companies) who have given their names, addresses, phone numbers and places of business, calling for a "new" investigation of 9-11.

I have my own quibbles with AE911T but that discussion is best saved for the proper forum, once it becomes available. I think they are correct that fire should not have caused the collapse but I disagree with the notion of "controlled demolition" at the WTC.

I don't want to discuss/debate it here, just pointing out that there is a spectrum of ideas on what happened and having the ability to showcase our ideas and have them challenged and refined by other informed, critical minds who may already be on the same page about Revisionism seems like a great opportunity.

9-11 Truthers are already Politically Incorrect truth seekers ..... many of them would see the truth of Holocaust Revisionism.

Exactly. There is less fear to walk into the "realm of Revisionism" when society already sees you as being halfway there. For those recognizing Zionist influences regarding 9/11, even moreso.

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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 4 years 5 months ago (Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:05 pm)

Callahan wrote:I have my own quibbles with AE911T but that discussion is best saved for the proper forum, once it becomes available. I think they are correct that fire should not have caused the collapse but I disagree with the notion of "controlled demolition" at the WTC.


Exactly, we need a separate sub-forum to hash out our differences, and this is the perfect place to do it.

Moderator, it is Christmas Eve. Can you please give us this sub-forum as a gift to us on this website?

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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby Moderator » 4 years 5 months ago (Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:18 am)

All of the comments are certainly appreciated, there are many thoughtful points to both sides of the argument.

After considering them all, and after feedback from the CODOH Board, I have decided to go ahead with the '9/11 Forum'.

The fact that so many people worldwide now disagree with the 'official' conspiracy theory was key in that decision. It is no longer a 'fringe' opinion to question the promoted narrative, in spite of 'the media's' attempt to claim it is.

To those that disagree with my decision, I will not indicate in the '9/11 Forum' description and guidelines that CODOH as a whole endorses or opposes the alternative views to the government's narrative.

The intention is to provide a higher end debate choice where reasonable guidelines are in place to prevent the usual childishness that is the norm when discussing a controversial subject.

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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby Dresden » 4 years 5 months ago (Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:51 am)

Thank you for the decision, Moderator!

Moderator said:

"The intention is to provide a higher end debate choice where reasonable guidelines are in place to prevent the usual childishness that is the norm when discussing a controversial subject"

That's the idea.
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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby Pia Kahn » 4 years 5 months ago (Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:18 am)

Moderator wrote:All of the comments are certainly appreciated, there are many thoughtful points to both sides of the argument.

After considering them all, and after feedback from the CODOH Board, I have decided to go ahead with the '9/11 Forum'. ...

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Great news and smart decision. If this forum provides an orderly and rational discussion of 9/11 then it may attract many 9/11 truthers who wish to discuss controversial topics in a polite, respectful and rational manner without flame wars, ad hominem attacks, and all that.

Currently, this forum has three main headings: "Holocaust revisionism (English)", "Holocaust revisionism (International)" and Finally, "Revisionism". I suggest adding the subforum "9/11-revisionism" under the "Revisionism" header and side by side with WWI and WWII revisionism. This would fit nicely into this forum.

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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby katana » 4 years 5 months ago (Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:31 am)

Thank you Moderator for deciding to go ahead with a 9/11 Forum. A decision that reflects your wisdom, and no doubt your good looks, charming nature, and wonderful singing ability!

And thanks to Callahan for kicking the whole thing off, and also others here who also supported the idea. The others who were not keen on the idea also played a useful role in giving their feedback.

And a happy New Year to all, while I'm here.

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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 4 years 5 months ago (Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:55 am)

Moderator, I am very happy you chose to go along with this this addition.

If I may ask, when should we expect to see it in it's completed status?
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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby Moderator » 4 years 5 months ago (Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:57 pm)

Soon, JLAD,

How about some suggestions about guidelines for the new forum from everyone.
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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby Callahan » 4 years 5 months ago (Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:29 pm)

As mentioned briefly before, I suggest pinned posts for presentation and criticism of evidence of the following theories on WTC collapse mechanisms:

- NIST Fire-Driven Collapse Theory
- AE911Truth Controlled Demolition Theory
- Mini-Nuke Theory
- Direct Energy Weapon (DEW) Theory
- ROOSD Theory

I think a separate area for each of the major competing theories will help prevent the hodgepodge of heated, disorganized debate that discussions on 9/11 are most famous for.

If you're not yet familiar with ROOSD theory, not to worry, I will help get us started there. Others who recognize another theory as most sound should perhaps introduce the topic by explaining which evidence they find most convincing.

Other pinned posts may include:

- Motive: Pretext for Zionist Imperialist Wars
- Motive: Jihadi Terror Assault on Western Values
- Means: Positions of Authority Surrounding 9/11 Events
- Means: Terrorist Cell with Hijacked Planes
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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 4 years 5 months ago (Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:31 pm)

Moderator wrote:How about some suggestions about guidelines for the new forum from everyone.


The guidelines would be as follows; changes were made when necessary. Are these good, or would you change anything?

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The CODOH 9/11 Forum forbids any threats or personal attacks against others, we will not tolerate links to sites which do engage in such behavior. We're about debate and only debate.

On topic posts only. The topic of the Forum is 9/11. Debating whether or not the United States government or others had preknowledge of the event, if there was or was not controlled demolition, and if 9/11 is or is not used to justify the TSA, NSA, surveillance cameras, internet surveilance, military occupation in Middle Eastern nations, is the reason that The CODOH 9/11 Forum exists. Associated subjects are bound to come up, be sure there is a tie-in, show the tie-in. Each topic represents a separate point, a post to a topic must be pertinent to that point.

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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby borjastick » 4 years 5 months ago (Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:17 am)

OK then the decision has been made so can we block this thread now please as it's lowering the tone of holocaust debate.

When the new thread starts I'll be waiting for the loons to come out to play, posting all manner of nonsense to claim this and that and completely ignoring the rational and scientific answers to what really happened on that day.
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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby Depth Charge » 4 years 5 months ago (Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:21 am)

borjastick wrote:OK then the decision has been made so can we block this thread now please as it's lowering the tone of holocaust debate.

When the new thread starts I'll be waiting for the loons to come out to play, posting all manner of nonsense to claim this and that and completely ignoring the rational and scientific answers to what really happened on that day.


On the contrary, I think disinformation will be easily dismantled by the regulars on this site, and establish us as discerning and sane.

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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby borjastick » 4 years 5 months ago (Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:14 am)

Depth Charge wrote:
borjastick wrote:OK then the decision has been made so can we block this thread now please as it's lowering the tone of holocaust debate.

When the new thread starts I'll be waiting for the loons to come out to play, posting all manner of nonsense to claim this and that and completely ignoring the rational and scientific answers to what really happened on that day.


On the contrary, I think disinformation will be easily dismantled by the regulars on this site, and establish us as discerning and sane.


Good luck with that one...
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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby Depth Charge » 4 years 5 months ago (Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:19 am)

borjastick wrote:
Depth Charge wrote:
borjastick wrote:OK then the decision has been made so can we block this thread now please as it's lowering the tone of holocaust debate.

When the new thread starts I'll be waiting for the loons to come out to play, posting all manner of nonsense to claim this and that and completely ignoring the rational and scientific answers to what really happened on that day.


On the contrary, I think disinformation will be easily dismantled by the regulars on this site, and establish us as discerning and sane.


Good luck with that one...


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Re: Should The CODOH Revisionist Forum have a separate 9/11 discussion - debate forum?

Postby Moderator » 4 years 5 months ago (Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:57 pm)

All:

The new '9/11 Forum' will be built within a few days after 1/1/19.
When it's launched I will lock this thread and immediately ask for feedback in a thread at that forum.

And remember, if it becomes unmanageable, I can always "pull it". :roll:

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