What is CODOH's rebuttal to the footage of concentration camps presented at Nuremberg?

[clewder]

Does this count as proof of genocide? If not, why?

[Lamprecht]

What footage do you think supports the allegation of genocide, exactly?

Is this what you're talking about? https://youtu.be/_pQJ42ONPDo

[Lamprecht]

Nazi Concentration Camps 1945 Documentary Actual Propaganda Film Used in Nuremberg Trials

Propaganda video (59 minutes) made by the Allies for the Nuremberg "Trials". Bogus claims abound. George H Stevens made this film but only used 7.5% of the footage shot.

Leipzig - 12 SS men supposed to have burnt to death 200 political prisoners.

Penig - Nazis, including Medics forced to look after the victims.

Ohrdruf - The Nazis supposed to have killed 4,000 political prisoners. Local people, including medics are forced to tour the camp and view "their" crimes, which are read to them.

Hadamar - 15,000 killed in gas chamber (False). After 10,000 were killed it was claimed by the Allies that the staff had a party.

Breendonck - Germans used sticks with barbed wire to keep order.

Hannover - 9,800 Poles were killed by the Germans, only 200 survived.

Arnstadt - Local people forced to exhume the bodies of buried inmates.

Nordhausen - The Germans are supposed to have killed 3,000 political prisoners. Six hundred local people are forced to bury the dead.

Mauthausen - an "extermination camp" (False). US prisoner claims that prisoners were gassed, killed by cold water, killed by dogs, pushed over cliffs. (False)

Buchenwald - founded in 1933 (False - actually 1937) an "extermination factory" (False). The crematorium could cremate 400 bodies in 10 hours (False). Twelve hundred Germans are forced to view the corpses by the crematorium. Human skin is used by the Germans to make lampshades (False) and "canvas" on which obscene images are made (False). The Germans also shrunk the heads of two Poles. (False).

Dachau - Well fed prisoners bury the dead. Local people are forced to view the dead inmates. A shower bath (Brausebad) is misrepersented as a "gas chamber". The lethal "gas chamber" is shown (False). The gas vents and intake pipes for the Zyclon B gas are shown (False).

Belsen - A Jewish Doctor (Ada Bimko) makes a few bogus claims. She later perjured herself at the Belsen-Auschwitz trial by claiming she had seen German records detailling 4,000,000 cremations at Auschwitz. She also claimed that a SS cook had shot a male inmate dead in her deposition, but then testified it was a woman when she appeared in court. She claims here that Josef Kramer had also kept most of the chocolate for himself. She claimed medical experiments and forced sterilizations. The film claims that the guards were taken before they had time to flee (False - there was a local truce of which the Allies broke). SS men and female staff were forced to bury typhus victims without PPE of which many died. A US Bulldozer driven by a British soldier is shown in a staged propaganda shot, pushing a pile of corpses into a pit, after the local truce was broken by the British.

Note: no video from any of the so-called "Extermination camps"

I recommend the following thread + the links from other threads found in my posts there:

SS Officer Karl von Eberstein on the conditions of the camps / Piles of bodies & Emaciated Corpses
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[Breker]

As well, we suggest:

The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies
http://codoh.com/library/document/865/?lang=en
by Theodore J. O'Keefe

[borjastick]

Just ask yourself where the photos and filmed footage of the 'death camps' was at Nuremberg? Why was there none shown that depicted the horror of the mass murder at Auschwitz, Majdanek etc? Where were the photos showing the masses of unburned bodies that would have been in situ and the piles of cremation ashes for the 4m dead at Auschwitz?

[hermod]

Does this count as proof of genocide? If not, why?

No, it doesn't.

The rebuttal to that footage as 'proof of genocide' was brought by the subsequent official (i.e. antirevisionist/exterminationist) deflation of the number of alleged Nazi extermination camps.

https://postimg.cc/mzPxfz5P
Pre-Deflation Map

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... Poland.PNG
Post-Deflation Map

Not a single picture in that movie was filmed at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek, Sobibor, Belzec, Treblinka, or Chelmno*. So that movie doesn't show a single picture of a genocide** (the intentional destruction of a group of people).

Health disasters don't count as genocide. In fact, that footage of concentration camps documented the Allied carpet bombing policy during WWII more than anything else...

https://postimg.cc/zVvrbj1T

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(Pohl was the "big boss" of German concentration camps during WWII.)

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Just an old propaganda trick...

American cartoon, published in 1898: "Remember the Maine! And Don't Forget the Starving Cubans! "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propagand ... erican_War

The first modern concentration camps were created by the Spanish in 1896 as "reconcentrados" to house Cubans suspected of supporting insurgents during the Cuban War of Independence, and the British during the Second Boer War to house Boers to prevent them from supporting the forces of the South African Republic and the Orange Free State.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps

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* Updated exterminationist narrative:

Extermination camp

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not to be confused with Nazi concentration camps.

Nazi extermination camps

The Holocaust map: The six Nazi extermination camps set up by the SS in occupied Poland, are marked with white skulls in black squares.

Nazi Germany used six extermination camps (German: Vernichtungslager), also called death camps (Todeslager), or killing centers (Tötungszentren), in Central Europe during World War II to systematically murder over 2.7 million people – mostly Jews – in the Holocaust.[1][2][3] The victims of death camps were primarily murdered by gassing, either in permanent installations constructed for this specific purpose, or by means of gas vans.[4] The six extermination camps were Chełmno, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

**

United Nations

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Article II

Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group

[...]

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

[Archie]

In a way, there isn't really much to rebut. Most of the footage is from Dachau, Buchenwald, Belsen and other Western camps. But it is already conceded but mainstream historians that only some tens of thousands died in these camps, that there were at most only "incidental" gassings, and that most of those who died were not even Jewish. The public does not understand any of this and continues to assume that these images are of Jews killed in "the Holocaust." The establishment, while quietly admitting the reality when necessary, seems happy to let the public continue to think of this as "proof."

Most of the supposed extermination camps like Treblinka, Belzec, etc no longer existed by the time the Soviets took that territory and hence there was no "liberation" footage to use for propaganda as there was with Dachau and the other camps that were still active by the end of the war.

The Majdanek camp was taken over still intact by the Soviets in August of 1944. There was some propaganda about Majdanek around that time about gas chambers and crematoria and huge piles of shoes and clothes which were said to be from the 1.5M poor souls who were killed there. Amazingly, the establishment has practically conceded on this camp as well.

The Soviets took Auschwitz in January 1945. There is Soviet "liberation" footage but it wasn't featured in the famous American-made concentration camp film at Nuremberg and virtually all of it was filmed several months after the actual liberation. That is to say it was staged. And, again, this is admitted by establishment historians. The "gas chamber" in Auschwitz I is also now acknowledged to be a reconstruction.

[Fred zz]

see the attachment for an interesting document details of what the Soviets submitted at the tribunal in regards to Majdanek

for the 600,000 divide that by 5 ovens

for the 80,000 divide that by 2 ovens

also read the details of notation 195

Get the picture?

[hermod]

In a way, there isn't really much to rebut. Most of the footage is from Dachau, Buchenwald, Belsen and other Western camps. The public does not understand any of this and continues to assume that these images are of Jews killed in "the Holocaust." The establishment, while quietly admitting the reality when necessary, seems happy to let the public continue to think of this as "proof."

Very true. Antirevisionist historians don't lie by omission (on that one). They lie by silence. A good example of their deceitful behavior can be seen in the video below. Don't miss Michael Shermer diverting the public's attention from that embarrassing fact with the late concession on Nazi soap...

18:08-20:23

The Majdanek camp was taken over still intact by the Soviets in August of 1944. There was some propaganda about Majdanek around that time about gas chambers and crematoria and huge piles of shoes and clothes which were said to be from the 1.5M poor souls who were killed there. Amazingly, the establishment has practically conceded on this camp as well.

That's the reason why the Germans dynamited the Birkenau crematoria before leaving. They didn't "destroy evidence of their crimes" as most people falsely believe. They destroyed great food for hateful anti-German propaganda as experience had vastly demonstrated after the Soviet capture of Majdanek.

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The Soviets took Auschwitz in January 1945. There is Soviet "liberation" footage but it wasn't featured in the famous American-made concentration camp film at Nuremberg and virtually all of it was filmed several months after the actual liberation. That is to say it was staged. And, again, this is admitted by establishment historians. The "gas chamber" in Auschwitz I is also now acknowledged to be a reconstruction.

https://postimg.cc/6y7J5Gq0

https://postimg.cc/Q9sypfxT

https://postimg.cc/Ny6LLjzx

https://postimg.cc/xcKy1dxL

https://postimg.cc/tnj2CVjn

[slob]

Why when I see this photo of a disembodied left hand supposedly from Stutthof Concentration Camp.....

Do I think of this film, made the same year(left hand)

Or this from a 1943 film?(left hand)

It has always had the look of a movie prop to me????


Watch from 4:40

[Hannover]

A classic here.

From the Allied Psyche Warfare section we see staged 'human skin lampshades, shrunken heads, tattooed 'skin' placed on tables by the Allies and Hollywood Director Billy Wilder, who we see in the footage:

Buchenwald—A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil, By DenierBud
https://codoh.com/library/document/1529/?lang=en

- Hannover

[Hektor]

Does this count as proof of genocide? If not, why?

It doesn't, just as mass accident scenes wouldn't. Presenting those materials was impure court-room theatrics and while it looked impressive, it was even persuasive to the accused. Who had stated that this was actually new to them.

Problem: Finding prisoners of whom some are diseased/starving dying should come as no surprise when the besieged country did already collapse in many ways. In fact, if there was an extermination program why are there still many, why weren't they killed when they were of no use any longer. Why where they kept alive still many in quite mint condition.

It turns out that a lot of what is given as "evidence" for an "extermination program" is actually proof of the opposite. That's when you do analyze it with a sober mind. Cultists however have no sober mind that's why reason fails on them, just as it fails on the COVID cultists who still believe the changing stories of governments and experts.