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Dr. Jones discusses origin of Holocaust

Postby jarno » 5 months 1 week ago (Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:16 pm)

Beginning at point 26:00 in this video, Dr. Jones briefly addresses how the Holocaust originated after the war as a propaganda effort led by CD Jackson and Eisenhower. Although he only briefly touches upon it, I still find it interesting and worth posting:
https://culturewars.com/videos/emj-ynp1 ... uf-deutsch

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Re: Dr. Jones discusses origin of Holocaust

Postby Hektor » 5 months 1 week ago (Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:36 am)

Jones focuses on 'social engineering' in Germany. How the Allies and their minions changed German culture in the aftermath after world war two.
The 'Holocaust complex' was of course part of it, another important component was attacking the sexual mores and parental authority.

Social Engineering is akin to 'Brainwashing' of individuals. It is also called 'thought reform':
https://culteducation.com/cults-in-our-midst2.html
The tactics of a thought-reform program are organized to:

1. Destabilize a person's sense of self,
2. Get the person to drastically reinterpret his or her life's history and radically alter his or her worldview and accept a new version of reality and causality,
3. Develop in the person a dependence on the organization, and thereby turn the person into a deployable agent of the organization.


As for Germany the following applies:
1. World War Two and the Aftermath destabilized the Germans sense of self.
2. The Holocaust was inserted to reinterpret their history and subsequently altered their world view. The post reeducation Germans accepted a new version of reality (different from their parents and grand parents). And also causality. That may require some further discussion
3. The 'New Germans' have a strong missionary sense in terms of political morality, but also issues like environmentalism. They act like deployable agents for all kinds of causes.

Most Germans aren't really aware of what has been done to them. They think what they were taught at school or is presented in the media is somehow 'objective information' and a 'fair portrayal' of historical reality, which of course it isn't.


Jones worked in Germany as a teacher. He wasn't aware of this all at the beginning. With time he however realized that things were a bit fishy. He investigated cultural warfare in the US... Also the role played by Jewish figures and organizations in this. He recently brought up the Holocaust issue more, also pointing out that it is a misrepresentation of historical events. He also mentions the key role it plays in social engineering and control.

If he would visit Germany, he probably would be arrested for what he said.

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Re: Dr. Jones discusses origin of Holocaust

Postby danewerk » 5 months 1 week ago (Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:02 pm)

Dr. Jones is addressing why the western allies amplified and perpetuated the Holocaust propaganda after the war. However, the first Holocaust claims were made earlier and originated with the Polish Exile Government in London and newspapers of the Soviet Union.

Raczyński's Note, a diplomatic note to several allied governments, is from December 1942 but only briefly mentions Treblinka (spelled Tremblinka), Sobibor, and Belzec.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raczy%C5%84ski%27s_Note

As far as is known, the trains were despatched to three localities—Tremblinka, Belzec and Sobibor, to what the reports describe as “Extermination camps.” The very method of transport was deliberately calculated to cause the largest possible number of casualties among the condemned Jews. It is reported that on arrival in camp the survivors were stripped naked and killed by various means, including poison gas and electrocution.

I believe that the first detailed allegations concerning Treblinka appeared in the Soviet press in Pravda on April 21, 1943, in an article by N. Sergeeva titled "Poland—Hitlerite "House of Death"" (Польша—гитлеровский "дом смерти"). It claims that the information comes from an illegal radio transmission and that steam was used as the execution method. It also lists other claimed atrocities in addition to Treblinka.

The timing of this article is interesting as it comes just one week after the German announcement, on April 13, of the Katyn massacre. Thus it seems that it was intended to confuse the situation by claiming much greater atrocities committed by Germany.

As for Sobibor, the earliest claims were made in several articles in the Soviet press in August and September 1944. Probably the highest circulation of these was by A. Rutman and S. Krasilshchik (А. Рутман и С. Красильщик) published in Komsomolskaya Pravda on September 2, 1944. The headline was "Factory of Death in Sobibor" (Фабрика смерти в Собибуре) and was based on interviews with Ber/Dov Freiberg and Chaim Powroznik (Б. Фрайберг, Х. Поврозник). It contains fantastical details such as the collection of human fat in barrels and opening floors in the gas chamber through which bodies dropped down onto rail carts.

I will post translations of these articles shortly.

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Re: Dr. Jones discusses origin of Holocaust

Postby Hektor » 5 months 1 week ago (Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:49 pm)

danewerk wrote:Dr. Jones is addressing why the western allies amplified and perpetuated the Holocaust propaganda after the war. However, the first Holocaust claims were made earlier and originated with the Polish Exile Government in London and newspapers of the Soviet Union.

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As for Sobibor, the earliest claims were made in several articles in the Soviet press in August and September 1944. Probably the highest circulation of these was by A. Rutman and S. Krasilshchik (А. Рутман и С. Красильщик) published in Komsomolskaya Pravda on September 2, 1944. The headline was "Factory of Death in Sobibor" (Фабрика смерти в Собибуре) and was based on interviews with Ber/Dov Freiberg and Chaim Powroznik (Б. Фрайберг, Х. Поврозник). It contains fantastical details such as the collection of human fat in barrels and opening floors in the gas chamber through which bodies dropped down onto rail carts.

I will post translations of these articles shortly.



Yes, Polish exile government was one of the first to make such claims. But there was earlier distributions of such claims already.
Figures like Paul Tillich and Thomas Mann may actually have been earlier on the issue:
https://archive.org/details/WarTimeRadi ... 1/mode/2up
Paul Tillich notably works with some innuendo. Lots of gas lighting though, to potential German listeners. jt seems as if he is preparing the audience for something. It's also clear that truth itself doesn't matter to him.


E Michael Jones gives of course a Catholic Point of view. The broader Catholic Church tried to act neutrally during world war two. Although there were those that may have picked national sides and there was beef between some National Socialists and some Catholics as well. After World War Two the catholic Church went mostly with the narrative. Although some Catholics dis give aid to persecuted Germans (Something now used against the Catholics). They absorbed lots of the Holocaust narrative and also went with a number of NS-Myth there. I guess they didn't reckon that the Holocaust Narrative would be used against them one day. But that was exactly the intention with it. First blame Hitler and the Nazis. Get the other Germans, the churches, other nationalities etc. turn on them. Demonize them Nazis into oblivion. Later portray Hitler and them Nazis as outcome of German culture in general. Point to the importance of Protestantism, Catholicism and Christianity for German culture... Now you can demonize this as well.... The weapon there is of course shaming and guilt tripping. The Protestants did the "Stuttgarter Schuldbekenntnis"... under guidance and orchestration of several theologians that were Allied Agents. The Catholics didn't do something like this in the beginning... And I think that may have strengthen them for a while at least. Jones is on the money that the Holocaust Narrative is weaponized against Germans and Christianity including Catholics. So he takes on the narrative, which is recognizably a distortion.


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