Argentina Will Expel Bishop Who Denied Holocaust

[Franc]

Argentina Will Expel Bishop Who Denied Holocaust (Update1)

By Bill Faries

Feb. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Argentina told a Roman Catholic bishop who denied the Holocaust and was reinstated to the church last month by Pope Benedict XVI to leave the country or face expulsion.

Interior Minister Florencio Randazzo said in a statement that U.K.-born Bishop Richard Williamson’s denial of the Holocaust in an interview with a Swedish television station had “deeply hurt Argentine society, the Jewish people and humanity.” The minister ordered the cleric to leave the South American country within 10 days.

Randazzo also said Williamson had lied “repeatedly” about his activities in Argentina.

The pope’s Jan. 24 decision to lift the excommunication of Williamson and three other traditionalist priests who broke with the church in the 1980s prompted criticism from Jewish groups and German Chancellor Angela Merkel. The pope has called for Williamson to retract the remarks before he can be officially reinstated.

In the Swedish television interview, Williamson said “historical evidence is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed in gas chambers as a deliberate policy by Adolf Hitler.”

Last Updated: February 19, 2009 16:27 EST

[Franc]

A petition to sign :
http://www.soutenir-mgr-williamson.co.cc/

A text to spread :

THE WILLIAMSON CASE

1) Faith and Morality suppose History and politics (which is "social
morality" and has nothing to do with political parties). Separating
Faith from politics is the essence of liberal Catholicism. Moreover,
historical facts are the basis of Catholic Faith: for instance, if
Jesus' birth, death and Resurrection were not historical facts, our
Faith would collapse. Jesus was born under Augustus' reign and died
under Pontius Pilatus' authority. Similarly, exterminationism is the
basis of the holocaustical religion, which intends to replace the
Holocaust of Jesus, Redeemer of mankind, by the Holocaust of the
Jewish people.

2) It is impossible to restore Faith in its integrity without
restoring social or political life ("Restaurare omnia in Christo",
was Saint Pius X's motto) and without having an historical knowledge
based on facts and not myths, especially if those are instruments to
propose a new theological concept (Holocaust of the Jews) and to
unhinge the traditional Catholic concept (Holocaust of the Christ).

3) Holocaust was the basis of Vatican II's new doctrine about deicide
("Nostra aetate"), of Paul VI's reform of Good Friday's prayer (NOM,
1970), of John Paul II's theory about "the Old Covenant which was
never cancelled" (in Magonza, 1981). Moreover, the "theology of God's
silence" was born following reflections on Holocaust, as it is
presented by the "exterminationists." Some theologists (following
Hans Jonas' and Giovanni Battista Metz's steps) deny Providence and
God's goodness and call into question His existence because God
allowed Holocaust. Holocaust is for talmudic Judaism
a "metahistorical absolute", a sacrificial act which has a saving
value. After the destruction of the Temple (70 AD), rabbinical
exegesis replaced Mosaic Faith in a personal Messiah by Faith in
a "collective Messiah", who is the Jewish people. Christianism cannot
accept this sacralization of the Jewish Holocaust, which would be the
denying of its own identity and Faith: the only Holocaust is the
Sacrifice of Christ. Admitting another saving and "metahistorical"
Holocaust besides Jesus' would be an act of apostasy. Unfortunately,
the new Judaic conciliar and postconciliar theology of the council
grew in a progressist Catholic environment, we hope it did not
pollute the environment bound to Tradition. Therefore, the Priest's
duty is to warn the faithful.

4) It does not seem me a sin or a breaking to express one's own
opinion about historical validity of a vast literature concerning
the "re-examination" (and not "negation") of Holocaust's thesis,
introduced by the pro-Soviet Gromiko in 1948. Many historians, in
Israel as well, assert there is no historical certainty about a IIIrd
Reich's plan to destroy the Jewish people with gas chambers. Of
course, there were deportations to concentration camps, where many
Jews were killed. Killing an innocent is a crime and a serious sin
against the fifth commandment. Bishop Richard Williamson expressed it
clearly during the interview, he said nothing contrary to Faith and
Morality, outlined only his opinion, which does not discredit the
integral Catholic doctrine. If the bishop as a bishop talks about
Faith and Morality, with an ecclesiastic authority, it does not mean
he could not talk , without an ecclesiastic authority, about History
or social morality. Moreover, if Bishop Williamson's positions or,
better said, opinions about the Holocaust do not reflect FSSPX's
opinions, so I wonder: in such a case, if it is lawful for the
Fraternity to talk about History or politics, why is it not the same
for Bishop Williamson?

5) It is at least naive to deceive oneself into believing a
small "mea culpa" (one hoped they came to an end with John Paul's
death) could appease the anger and the hatred of Judaism against
Christ and His Church. In fact, the chief rabbi of Rome (Riccardo Di
Signi) said at once that Bishop Fellay's apologies (who only talked
about "inappropriateness") were completely insufficient and
irrelevant. Thus it is necessary to re-examine the old theological
positions against Judaism which, as Jules Isaac said (belittling the
Holocaust), deny religious freedom (ecumenism, negation of the
deicide, appropriateness of the Saint Pius V Mass), as the Italian
rabbi reaffirmed in 2007. Then Di Segni asked the FSSPX not to limit
itself to silence the one "negationist" bishop (who in reality is not
negationist), but to make clear its very thought about Vatican II's
doctrine and about Judaism. The very problem, according to Di Segni,
is the theological position of the FSSPX about Judaism, and if it is
not made clear (that is, if a new position is accepted, as Bishop
Lefebvre's positions about ecumenism and deicid are clear), the
question remains open. We should not to imagine to calm down a lion
who wants to waste (his prey) just by giving him a little ball of
meat. Di Segni will accuse us of anti-Semitism, as he did with Bishop
Williamson.

6) If Jesus Christ had not made inappropriate sermons ("you whose
father is the devil", Jean, VIII, 48), he would have died in His bed
and would not have accomplished the Father's will. Saint Paul advises
to "preach appropriately and inappropriately". Saint Thomas, in the
theological Sum, writes "it is necessary to preach the truth to the
Jews, without being afraid of irritating them, as Jesus who taught
publicly the truth which they hated, and reproached them for their
vice, without being afraid of irritating them" (Saint Thomas, III,
42, 2). The Apostles were "happy to suffer persecutions" from the
Sanhedrin because they preached about Christ crucified by the High
Priests and they were not frightened of disrepute, on the contrary
they loved it.

7) Cardinal Bagnasco was more firm and fair, he talked about a
campaign orchestrated by the media. He did not re-excommunicate
anyone.

8) I hope these facts will not lead to new divides. Perhaps a greater
doctrinal firmness and a real brotherly charity would have saved what
a harshness of heart and a theological-historical-political weakness
seem to have endangered. The responsible one does not seem me to be
Bishop Williamson: father Reginaldo Garrigou-Lagrange wrote "liberals
are broad-minded in doctrine because they do not believe firmly, and
pitiless in practice, because they do not really love."

9) Endly Benedict XVI intervened (this morning) in defence,
unfortunately, of the Holocaust, and he told that the normalisation
of the relations with the "traditionalists" depends on their whole
acceptance of Vatican II. Perhaps all these events have be useful in
taking away all ambiguity, the Catholics bound to Tradition know
that, if they do not accept "Nostra aetate" and the
postconciliar "Judaeo-christianism", there will be no room for them.

10) Let God give us the courage – in this sad time of "universal
apostasy" – to maintain the Faith in the Holocaust of Christ, the
only real Redeemer of mankind.

Don Curzio Nitoglia

28th January 2009

[Radar]

This will be interesting. The PiusX Society will now have to decide where to send Bishop Williamson. If to Britain will the Germans have the nerve to try to extradite him for trial in Germany as a "denier" and will the Church stand by to allow it? Will the defend him?

If to the US will the US accept him?

A lot of people who hate him so much may rue the day this started.

[Citizenfitz]

The Church once again gives strong presumptive evidence that it's ruled from Jerusalem. Perhaps the Pope should just drop the pretense and relocate there.

And the Bishop Williamson incident shows the depths that the SSPX have sunk to themselves. "The Holocaust" seems to have become a Doctrine of the Faith, equaling belief in the Resurrection. But then, one can publicly doubt the Resurrection and still walk away a Catholic theologian in good standing.

This is another reason to quit giving money to the institutional Church. As if we needed any more!

[Hemicuda]

Citizenfitz wrote:
"Perhaps the Pope should just drop the pretense and relocate there [Jerusalem]."

Well, that's the whole point, isn't it? For years, the Vatican refused to even acknowledge Israel as a legitimate state, and now the Pope is praying at the Wailing Wall and Auschwitz, and entertaining Rabbis, all in the name of 'inter-faith dialogue'.

Here's the plan that is unfolding before our very eyes:

1) Discredit and infiltrate the Catholic Church
2) Infiltrate the Fundamentalist Christians so that they worship Israel
3) Encircle Jerusalem and take possession of the Temple Mount
4) Cleanse Palestine of all Palestinians
5) Precipitate a global conflict; attack Iran, bring Russia into it
6) Announce a One World Religion and Government to end all conflict
7) Rebuild Solomon's Temple on the Temple Mount
Force the Catholic Church to support this plan
9) Continue to invoke the Holocaust while the world economy implodes
10) Establish One World Government under their control with the new Temple in Jerusalem as the seat of Power

Everything you see in the news is part of this strategy. I believe if we can discredit the Holocaust, we can save the world from this diabolical plan. Although Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons, the Holocaust Myth is more powerful than any of them combined. But this goes further than even Israel--the Jewish control of the Federal Reserve, the IRS, and our entire monetary enslavement system. All of it could come crashing down without the Holocaust sympathy card.

[Roscov]

This will be interesting. The PiusX Society will now have to decide where to send Bishop Williamson. If to Britain will the Germans have the nerve to try to extradite him for trial in Germany as a "denier" and will the Church stand by to allow it? Will the defend him?

If to the US will the US accept him?

A lot of people who hate him so much may rue the day this started.

Would he not be incarcerated like the 'heretical two' if he takes this option?

[Franc]

US Trad Catholics have good reactions and comments on their forum :
http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24318&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

God bless them.

[Hektor]

This immigration issue doesn't seem to be a coincidence. It rather reminds me of the cases of Ernst Zundel and Germar Rudolf.

[Radar]

Roscov,

It is possible that Bishop Williamson may have rights to appeal this deportation order within Argentina. We will have to await developments. Will the Society of PiusX assist him? These things remain to be seen.

If he must leave Argentina everyone should be aware that in these times one does not have the ability to simply go to whatever destination one pleases. I would not be surprised if the United States blocked his entry given the power of the Jewish lobby in the U.S.

Where could he go where he wouldbe safe? If I were him I would consider seeking refuge in the Vatican where he could devote his time to doing the research necessary to answer the questions he promised to undertake, to review the opinions he holds which have so irritated others. Would the Vatican accept him? If not, why not?

[jheitwler]

The man said he was going to study the issue. He said he was going to be sent a copy of Pressac's book. You'd think the Church and the government of Argentina would at least pretend to be fair minded and give him a chance to study the issue and then tell us what he concluded before running him out of Dodge.

[Judith]

Citizenfitz wrote:
"Perhaps the Pope should just drop the pretense and relocate there [Jerusalem]."

Well, that's the whole point, isn't it? For years, the Vatican refused to even acknowledge Israel as a legitimate state, and now the Pope is praying at the Wailing Wall and Auschwitz, and entertaining Rabbis, all in the name of 'inter-faith dialogue'.

Here's the plan that is unfolding before our very eyes:

1) Discredit and infiltrate the Catholic Church
2) Infiltrate the Fundamentalist Christians so that they worship Israel
3) Encircle Jerusalem and take possession of the Temple Mount
4) Cleanse Palestine of all Palestinians
5) Precipitate a global conflict; attack Iran, bring Russia into it
6) Announce a One World Religion and Government to end all conflict
7) Rebuild Solomon's Temple on the Temple Mount
Force the Catholic Church to support this plan
9) Continue to invoke the Holocaust while the world economy implodes
10) Establish One World Government under their control with the new Temple in Jerusalem as the seat of Power

Everything you see in the news is part of this strategy. I believe if we can discredit the Holocaust, we can save the world from this diabolical plan. Although Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons, the Holocaust Myth is more powerful than any of them combined. But this goes further than even Israel--the Jewish control of the Federal Reserve, the IRS, and our entire monetary enslavement system. All of it could come crashing down without the Holocaust sympathy card.

I'd like to ask a question here. I sometimes listen to Alex Jones for laughs. Why, do you suppose, does he never out the Jews as such? He always talks around the issue. He talks about their evil works without naming them. Why won't he touch the "holocaust?" I assume it is because he likes success. Am I correct?

Should I think of him as a total windbag?

[Turpitz]

I'd like to ask a question here. I sometimes listen to Alex Jones for laughs. Why, do you suppose, does he never out the Jews as such? He always talks around the issue. He talks about their evil works without naming them. Why won't he touch the "holocaust?" I assume it is because he likes success. Am I correct?

Should I think of him as a total windbag?

A wind-bag? He is a touch more sinister than that. He is married to a Jewess, for one thing. He was the one that edited out Silverstein slipping up and admitting WTC-7 was "pulled", in the newer version of those Sept 11 films. His job is to divert attention away from Jewry. At least you have noticed -- most don't.

[Judith]

I'd like to ask a question here. I sometimes listen to Alex Jones for laughs. Why, do you suppose, does he never out the Jews as such? He always talks around the issue. He talks about their evil works without naming them. Why won't he touch the "holocaust?" I assume it is because he likes success. Am I correct?

Should I think of him as a total windbag?

A wind-bag? He is a touch more sinister than that. He is married to a Jewess, for one thing. He was the one that edited out Silverstein slipping up and admitting WTC-7 was "pulled", in the newer version of those Sept 11 films. His job is to divert attention away from Jewry. At least you have noticed -- most don't.

Indeed I have noticed. It's glaring. In fact, he has made a mockery of himself in totally ignoring the Bishop Williamson case. He demonstrates conclusively that he is exactly not what he purports to be - a friend of the people. He has access to millions of viewers. You'd think he would consider what is happening to the Bishop and the existence of the anti-revisionism laws in Europe important information to disseminate.

He is definitely not willing to expose the essence of the NWO. That makes him a fraud.

[Citizenfitz]

"Although Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons, the Holocaust Myth is more powerful than any of them combined."

Hemicuda is right. Myths are more powerful than 200 atomic bombs....

[Citizenfitz]

It would seem that while Alex Jones does a decent job in pointing the finger at the NWO, his resolve withers when confronted by the fact that many Jews are found lurking therein. One sees the same qualities at work in Rush Limbaugh. Whether it's fear of the Jews, concern for the bottom line, or a misguided faith in Judaeocracy is an open question.