Barrington James wrote:Yes Hermod what you say about Sam makes a lot of sense. His plan to make life miserable in Germany for all, including the Jews, makes for a good plan.
Untermyer's boycott wasn't intended to make life miserable for all in Germany, and even less to bring Hitler's regime on its knees as emphatically stated by Untermyer in his propagandistic speeches. Untermyer wanted his economic boycott to cause anti-Jewish measures in Germany as a predictable reaction from the Nazis. U.S. Zionists permanently used that strategy before and during WW2. For instance, hard to believe that Chaim Weizmann (President of the World Zionist Organization) thought that he would improve the living conditions of Germany's and Europe's Jews when he officially declared war on Germany in the name of all Jews in September 1939. Also hard to believe that Theodore Kaufman (a member of the American Jewish Congress, a Zionist organization) sincerely thought that the fate of the Jews living in German-occupied Europe would be improved by his book "Germany Must Perish!" (published in 1941), promoting the extermination of the entire German people after Allied victory. The Nazi response to Kaufman's annihilation plan was the compulsory yellow star on the clothes of the Jews living in German-occupied Europe.
And when Top Zionist Rabbi Stephen S. Wise led a defamatory campaign of atrocity propaganda against Nazi Germany (very similar to Untermyer's campaign) in 1933, Hitler's Foreign Minister Konstantin von Neurath made it very clear that the foreign Jews doing that were rendering their co-religionists in Germany no service with their "
distorted and untruthful news". Joseph Goebbels even announced at that time that his department was about to "
launch sharp counter-active measures against those responsible for reports of atrocities against German Jews", stating that "
Drastic legal proceedings will be undertaken against the atrocity campaign which has been unloosed in America and England by interested Jewish circles against the new German regime" and "
A blow shall be struck at the intellectual movers and beneficiaries of those treasonable machinations, most of whom are Jews of German origin" (
hermod @ March 1933: Hitler's Foreign Minister & Jewish atrocity lies).
Untermyer's defamatory atrocity campaign and anti-German boycott were clearly not helping Germany's Jews at all.
However, as I see it, it was far too risky. Hitler then might have failed, and without Hitler the creation of Israel would have been doomed.
Maybe the reason why the anti-German boycott was so "flabbily" implemented.
Calling loudly for an anti-German boycott and never implementing it as hard as it could have been done was a good way to induce anti-Jewish measures in Germany without killing the Nazi regime (needed as a Holohoax scapegoat later).
Untermeyer sounds like a loose cannon.
Or a talented propagandist preparing American and British brains for the Holohoax to come, as I've said in my previous comment, which had already been formulated by prominent Zionists like Max Nordau and Stephen S. Wise decades earlier.
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How dare the smooth talkers, the clever official blabbers, open their mouths and boast of progress. ... Here they hold jubilant peace conferences in which they talk against war. ... But the same righteous Governments, who are so nobly, industriously active to establish the eternal peace, are preparing, by their own confession, complete annihilation for six million people, and there is nobody, except the doomed themselves, to raise his voice in protest although this is a worse crime than any war..." - Max Nordau, co-founder of the World Zionist Organization with Herzl, 1911.
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there are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism" - Stephen S. Wise, 1900.
If his boycott had not been ruined by Israel and others he could have sabotaged the entire plan to use Hitler to drive the Jews out of Germany.
I don't believe that Untermyer really wanted to prevent his Zionist friends from using Hitler to drive the Jews out of Germany. Claiming that Germany's Jews were being exterminated in concentration camps in August 1933 would have been counterproductive for that. Spreading atrocity propaganda lies against a regime is not something you do if you really want to help people persecuted by that regime. That was clearly intended to make the Nazis angry and to induce anti-Jewish measures from them.
He rants on about destroying Hitler, he knows about the rich Jewish bankers who were supporting Hitler
I'm still waiting for evidence of that one.
And U.S. companies making business in Nazi Germany are not evidence of Hitler being supported by Jewish bankers, as Chinese companies making business in America don't prove that the United States are a communist country or Saudi investors making money in America don't prove that the United States are a muslim country.
and yet he thought , according to you, that he had a better plan. He must have known that the Zionist's only and last hope to drive the Jews out of Germany in1933 and into Palestine and thus to create Israel, to take over all of Palestine as the Zionists and others had planned and hoped and dreamed for, was through Hitler.
Sure he knew. That's why he was campaigning FOR the persecution of Germany's Jews in 1933 with his anti-German boycott and defamatory extermination allegations.
He should have known about the Nazi/Zionist cooperation, their 40 industrial schools, their Transfer Agreement, the fact that no Jew over 45 years old had to leave Germany, that these older Jews were all entitled to a pension and other such good deals. Creating Israel had been the wish of a tiny fanatical group of Jews for generations. Clearly Sam had not been paying attention or, more than likely, he just had a role to play in this farce, perhaps his own role. But as they say, get two Jews together and you get three opinions.
Untermyer had pressured Wilson for Zionist goals during WW1. He was "in the place". Of course, he knew that the Nazi regime was helping many Germany's Jews to migrate to Palestine and settle there. He was part of the Zionist "farce", not an isolated naive lamb as you seem to believe.
Also, to keep everything in perspective, to realize how close Sam' boycott could have come to ruining everything remember that Germany was in a horrible state when Hitler took over. It's unemployment was over 30%, it had lost much of its wealth with the loss of 10% of its land in 1919- Versailles- farms were collapsing, and suicides were going through the roof. And Hitler and his Nazis only had three members out of eleven in the German cabinet. Hitler , it seemed, was doomed to be just one of 30 such Chancellors who had tried to save Germany. The boycott would have ruined Hitler, no doubt. However the Zionists needed him for a key role to play in the creation of Israel, and the British and Americans needed him for their plans create WW2, to destroy Germany and Japan. Sam was lucky that he wasn't shot.
Yes, Sam and his Zionist colleagues were lucky that Hitler wasn't shot, even if I trust them for having found another scapegoat for their Holocaust myth, had Hitler been shot to death too early.
