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Eduard Roschmann

Postby Malle » 2 decades 4 months ago (Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:05 am)

I saw a "Turkey" movie last night, "The Odessa File" with Jon Voight. I was about the "Murdering SS" and the documentary advisor was none less then the famous Simon Wiesenthal.

The where talking about the commandant in Riga ghetto, Eduard Roschmann. I got interested and searched the Web. Actually nothing about him. The only real hit was in the Guardian online:

Argentina confronts role as safe place for Nazis

By Uki Goni in Buenos Aires
Guardian Unlimited

Wednesday November 18, 1998

.......
Others who were never extradited included the Auschwitz doctor, Josef Mengele, who lived for decades in Argentina before dying in Brazil in 1979, and the 'Butcher of Riga', Eduard Roschmann, blamed for the death of some 40,000 Jews in the ghetto of Riga in Latvia, who died in Paraguay in 1977.
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Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,3791719,00.html

Does anyone else know something about him? :shock:

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Postby Hannover » 2 decades 4 months ago (Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:45 am)

I found a mention of him here; it's laughable. An excerpt:
http://vip.latnet.lv/LPRA/fg_stahlecker.htm

Besides Stahlecker, those in charge included the Hoherer SS- und Polizeifuhrer fuer das Ostland, SS-Obergruppenfuhrer Friedrich Jeckeln; his immediate subordinate in Latvia, Major General Walter Schroeder, the chief of the SD in Riga, SS-Oberstunnbannfuehrer Rudolf Lange; SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Gerhard Maywald; and the commander of the Riga ghetto, Eduard Roschmann.

Gertrude Schneider writes in her book Journey into Terror: The Story of the Riga Ghetto (New York 1979,p.25):
In the forest adjoining the camp [Salaspils], graves had been prepared by the inmates. After they had undressed, the victims were either shot immediately at the edge of the graves or else they were ordered to lie face down between the legs of those already shot, and were then killed. The latter method saved much-needed space. It was invented by Obergruppenfuhrer Friedrich Jeckeln, who called it Sardinenpackung (sardine packaging).
This was the renowned German efficiency and order: Ordnung muss sein! -- Order must prevail! It was the Germans, not the Latvians, who also saw to it that Latvian Jews "contributed to the advancement of science." As spelled out in an order (Verfuegung) signed by der Generalkommissar in Riga in November 1942, the Ostland branch of the Institute for Medical Zoology "asks for permission to supply three Jews for medical zoology for less than eight hours daily. It concerns chosen blood donors for the feeding of lice in the lice laboratory of the Institute, which must be kept going in connection with measures for combatting spotted fever" (Isaac Levinson, The Untold Story, pp. 131-132).


No grave ever found, but yet they claim to have witnessed the events, and no verifiable 'order'. Nothing but the same old lies which come crashing down when examined. No wonder the Believers insist upon laws to prevent scrutiny, their lies don't hold up.

As for these nutbar books and "eyewitness" absurdities....just saying so doesn't make it so.

Such is the 'holocau$t' as alleged.

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Postby Sailor » 2 decades 4 months ago (Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:14 am)

Malle wrote:They where talking about the commandant in Riga ghetto, Eduard Roschmann.

My question is: Was there a Jewish ghetto in Riga to begin with? I read that it was dissolved after the 1905 revolution in Latvia, as were all these ghettos in the Baltic states at that time. Jews could very well have lived distributed all over the town and country and not centralized in ghettos.
http://www.vho.org/D/Staatsbriefe/Strauss6_1.html (German)

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Postby Malle » 2 decades 4 months ago (Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:09 am)

Sailor wrote: My question is: Was there a Jewish ghetto in Riga to begin with?


I tried to read the document at vho, but it was not accessible. I found a website describing the ghetto. As usually, only testimony from survivors!

Link: http://www.rumbula.org/riga_ghetto.htm

A very strange thing, they never mention Roschmann anywhere!

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Postby Hannover » 2 decades 4 months ago (Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:39 am)

At the link given by Malle it is alleged that 25,000 Jews were shot in a nearby forest in 2 operations; 15,000 & 10,000. Eyewitnesses are claimed which means there is an exact location known. The question remains, where is the physical evidence? Since this alleged site is supposedly known, then a simple excavation ('2 guys and a shovel'...as one poster would say) could prove the allegations. But no, we have no such evidence, just more fraud from self serving "eyewitnesses"/"survivors". Odd that we have so many "eyewitnesses"/"survivors", but yet a plan of extermination is alleged.

And still no Roschmann. Perhaps he was too busy hanging out with his good pal Mengele, making human soap and human skin lampshades.

The so called 'holocau$t', the more you know about it, the more ridiculous it becomes.

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Postby Malle » 2 decades 4 months ago (Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:12 pm)

Let us conclude that Eduard Roschmann is a brain ghost created by Simon Wiesenthal. Is this the first time? No, please read!


Between 1971 and 1986, public statements by outside interveners concerning alleged war criminals residing in Canada have spread increasingly large and grossly exaggerated figures as to their estimated number [...] [among them] the figure of 6,000 ventured in 1986 by Mr. Simon Wiesenthal [...]. Jules Deschênes, Commission of Inquiry on War Criminals, 1986, p. 249


The Commission has tried repeatedly to obtain the incriminating evidence allegedly in Mr. Wiesenthal's possession, through various oral and written communications with Mr. Wiesenthal himself and with his solicitor, Mr. Martin Mendelsohn of Washington, D.C., but to no avail: telephone calls, letters, even a meeting in New York between Mr. Wiesenthal and Commission Counsel on 1 November 1985 followed up by further direct communications, have succeeded in bringing no positive results, outside of promises. Jules Deschênes, Commission of Inquiry on War Criminals, 1986, p. 257


It was obvious that the list of 217 officers of the Galicia Division furnished by Mr. Wiesenthal was nearly totally useless and put the Canadian government, through the RCMP and this Commission, to a considerable amount of purposeless work. Jules Deschênes, Commission of Inquiry on War Criminals, 1986, p. 258



And from Vancouver Sun 10-Feb-1996

IAN TRAYNOR
Guardian News Service

BONN - Simon Wiesenthal, 87, was being treated in a Viennese hospital Friday as a controversy raged over his record and pedigree as the world's most celebrated Nazi-hunting sleuth.

It followed the screening of a prime-time German television documentary that featured interviews with rival Nazi-hunters from the United States, France and Israel's Mossad intelligence service, all of whom were scathing of Wiesenthal's 50-year career in tracking down war criminals.

Wiesenthal's lawyers were understood to be considering legal action against the makers of the 20-minute Panorama documentary broadcast by the Hamburg-based North German Broadcasting television network on Thursday night.

"Incompetent," "unprofessional" and "tragic figure" were some of the milder terms used to describe Wiesenthal. He was accused of inflating his own role in the Mossad capture of Adolf Eichmann, one of Hitler's key henchmen, in Argentina, and of providing wrong and useless information in the hunt for Martin Bormann and Nazi doctor Josef Mengele, who
performed gruesome medical experiments on concentration camp inmates.

The program also revisited the bitter row surrounding former Austrian president Kurt Waldheim, who was cleared of war crimes in the 1980s but found to have covered up his wartime past as a German intelligence officer.

The sensitivity of the subject and its prime-time screening in Germany led to intervention by the office of the chancellor, Helmut Kohl, after Wiesenthal apparently contacted Kohl to express concern about the program.

All of those interviewed are known to have waged long-running feuds and vendettas against Wiesenthal. They included Beate Klarsfeld, the French Nazi-hunter; Isser Harel, the retired Mossad chief who headed the Eichmann capture operation and has been angry for decades over Wiesenthal's perceived effort to take the credit for the spectacular kidnapping; and Eli Rosenbaum, the head of the U.S. justice department's office of special investigations, whose 1993 book, Betrayal, is an indictment of Waldheim and Wiesenthal's role in the Austrian scandal.

The centre of Wiesenthal's one-man operation, a dingy cramped office in central Vienna, was inundated with faxes from anonymous neo-Nazis Friday, his secretary said.

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Postby Hebden » 2 decades 4 months ago (Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:05 pm)

A recent book The Real Odessa by Uki Goni makes passing reference to Mr. Roschmann:

Roschmann had reached Argentina from Genoa bearing a Red Cross passport on 2 October 1948, through the auspices of Bishop Hudal. He managed to stay out of the limelight for 28 years until Germany finally requested his extradition. Argentina's military dictatorship arrested him on 1 July 1977, only to let him slip through its hands 24 hours later. Roschmann escaped to neighbouring Paraguay, where he was admitted into a hospital in the capital city of Asuncion, dying of heart failure on 10 August. His corpse disappeared mysteriously a few days later. 'Six men came and took his body away,' was all the hospital authorities could say.

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Postby Malle » 2 decades 4 months ago (Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:12 pm)

Hebden, thank you!

Now that we have finish Simon Wiesenthal off, we have only one person left. And that is Uki Goñi (Goni).

I quoted him in a previous post. What does it say? 'Butcher of Riga', Eduard Roschmann! How does he know that Roschmann was the 'Butcher of Riga'? Please respond, because this is the only reference to a 'Butcher of Riga'' that I ever seen.

To tell other who Goni is, please look at the picture below:

From http://www.wiesenthal.com/social/press/ ... temID=6939

WIESENTHAL CENTER DEMANDES THE OPENING OF ARGENTINIAN NAZI ERA ARCHIVES

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As you all can see, more money to the chosen ones!


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