Zolton wrote:Those Jews who died by the thousands while being transported east toward Treblinka, like revisionists claim; Did they willingly board those trains?
Is forcing people to board trains, transporting them against their will to places they didn't agree to go to, forcing them to do labor that they did not voluntarily agree to do and transporting them under conditions that could foreseeably cause injury and death (all things that revisionists claim happened) lawful?
Most of us know about The Reich Citizenship Law and the Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honor (Nuremberg Laws).
There was other laws too.
USHMM has many opinionated articles about those laws in their website.
Anyway, during the WWII,
many laws made it legal to imprison people and transport them involuntary to places like concentration camps.
The Germans were not the only ones who made these kind of laws.
One is US President Roosevelt's Executive Order 9066.
"Executive Order 9066 was signed in 1942, making this movement official government policy.
The order suspended the writ of habeas corpus and denied Japanese Americans their rights
under the Fifth Amendment, which states that no person shall be deprived of life,
liberty or property without due process. Roosevelt justified the order on the grounds of military necessity,
declaring that Japanese Americans were a threat to national security."This in the Land of Liberty. Let's continue.
"Anti-Japanese sentiments had been developing in the U.S. long before WWII had even begun.
To most Americans in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century,
all Asian immigrants posed a threat to the American standard of living
and to the racial integrity of the nation.
“These attitudes were not seen as racist at the time, but simply American”"This is familiar story but the nation is different.
"Franklin Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066 which initiated the confinement of the
Japanese Americans into concentration camps.
The term “concentration camp”, initially used to describe Japanese living quarters
later became discontinued after the discovery of Nazi camps in Europe.
Forced to sell their homes and businesses at great losses,
Japanese Americans were compelled to move into areas that initially had very little to support them.
The poorly constructed camps were surrounded by barbed wire and were heavily guarded by troops
who had guns pointed at the Japanese internees, undoubtedly,
a strikingly similar arrangement to the Jewish concentration camps in Europe. "Did the Japanese Americans willingly move or go to transports? No. Was it lawful? Yes.
"Through a series of proclamations beginning in 1942, Japanese-Americans were officially labeled “enemy aliens”"This and other measures made it legal.
Source for quoted sections:
https://www.dartmouth.edu/~hist32/Histo ... 66%20(1942).htm
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Now let us rail back to Treblinka.
Vasily Grossman was a chemical engineer before coming a full-time writer.
At some point his writings made him kind of a nonperson.
He was nearly labelled as "enemy of the people" for his anti-Soviet writings.
His apartment was raided by KGB as he was subject of state persecution.
Before this he wrote how Josef Hirtreiter was able to tear children in half when he was stationed at Treblinka.
After describing Hirtreiter's appearance, Grossman continued to write about
"cyclops, creatures with two heads, as well as the corresponding terrible spiritual monstrosities and perversities." (I wonder why Claude Lanzmann didn't interview Josef Hirtreiter.)
"Grossman's description of a physically unlikely method of killing a living human through
tearing-by-hand originated from the 1944 memoir of the Treblinka revolt survivor Jankiel Wiernik,
where the phrase to "tear the child in half" appeared for the first time.
Wiernik himself never worked in the Auffanglager receiving area of the camp where Hirtreiter served,
and so was repeating hearsay."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Gr ... _TreblinkaOn the page 267 of A Writer At War: Vasily Grossman with the Red Army 1941-1945
(Translated from Russian language by Anthony Beevor & Ljuba Vinogradova)
Vasily Grossman mentions a chamber of moving knives under one these gas chambers disguised as bathhouses.
On the same page Grossman tells there was "
a pond full of acid".
Vasily Grossman wrote: "then
I came to believe that what I had heard was true"
Yad Vashem tells:
"In 1944 Grossman entered the Nazi camps of Majdanek and Treblinka, which had just been liberated by the Red Army."This cannot be true as Treblinka was claimed to be razed to the ground by the Nazis.
"A Jew himself, he undertook the faithful recording of Holocaust atrocities in the Ukraine, at Odessa and Majdanek as their extent dawned. His supremely powerful report ‘The Hell of Treblinka’ was quoted at the Nuremberg tribunal."https://www.antonybeevor.com/book/a-wri ... 1941-1945/After WWII, Grossman was banned to publish his writings (he was not the only one).
Somehow (maybe because of his earlier work and position?) he avoided the usual treatment of anti-Soviet (non)persons:
"An "enemy of the people" could be imprisoned, expelled or executed, and lose their property to confiscation.
Close relatives of enemies of the people were labeled as "traitor of Motherland family members" and prosecuted.
They could be sent to Gulag, punished by the involuntary settlement in unpopulated areas,
or stripped of citizen's rights.
Being a friend of an enemy of the people automatically placed the person under suspicion."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_ ... ist_states
