Eric Hunt rolls over?

[Hektor]

I'm not condoning name calling, but....

A true sign of Eric "panhandler" Hunt's insanity:

Remnants of a Mass cremation pit at Treblinka

http://questioningtheholocaust.com/inde ... -the-line/

How does a picture of uncremated bones prove cremation?

No wonder he's afraid to accept - The National Association of Forensic Historians - Crime Scene Investigation Challenge.

http://nafcash.com/

He knows he will get chewed up and spit out.

....

.... not only are the bones a bit odd for proving cremation. We also don't have any idea whether that picture was in fact taken at Treblinka. Or whether those bones maybe props being placed there. Are those even Human bones.

[hermod]

"Too bad nobody can burn human corpses (by definition full of water) to ashes (of course, the only aim of any obliteration/concealment cremation) in a burning pit (by definition an oxygen-deficient environment), at least not with the claimed method for cremation in these pits."

Maybe everyone here has seen it already but this is an excellent video demonstrating the extreme difficulties attending a "real" outdoor cremation. Even when the cremation is performed properly the ratio of fuel to weight (of the body intended for cremation) is staggering. Once wind and rain are introduced even more fuel is required. Never mind the fact that if the cremations were performed in the manner that is indicated in these pictures or that in the claimed Reinhardt camps they would have needed all the trees in Poland to make it work.

The most fundamental aspect of preparing an outdoor cremation that has been known by all cultures for 1000's of years is that the body must be completely engulfed by the fuel at all times in the process. When the pyres are built they need to be designed to allow the body to sink deeper into the fuel structure as the burning continues.

If mass outdoor cremations ever happened on the scale that is claimed, the sheer magnitude of the undertaking would have been a central theme of the exterminationist story line from the very beginning. What witness would ever be able to forget such a massive logistical endeavor that would have required thousands and thousands workers and supporting equipment to achieve?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoCygmfPgb8&t=523s

I have seen other members include the videos in their posts but I am sure how to do that so i just provided a link.

That on pyres. I'm afraid that even all the trees in Poland wouldn't have been enough to perform technically-absurd cremations in pits. As far as the alleged cremation pyres at the Reinhardt camps are concerned, there should exist countless delivery notes for mountains of wood. But the lack of such delivery notes doesn't bother exterminationist historians at all. Holohoaxsters like repeating: "If the Reinhardt camps were transit camps, show me documents on the transfer of Jews to Far eastern Europe." But they feverishly reply that your point is irrelevant when you ask them: "If the Reinhardt camps were extermination camps, show me documents on the delivery of the gigantic quantities of wood required to perform the cremation of millions of corpses." They are patently not willing to accept any kind of burden of proof on themselves. Obviously brand new for them.

[Hektor]

That on pyres. I'm afraid that even all the trees in Poland wouldn't have been enough to perform technically-absurd cremations in pits. As far as the alleged cremation pyres at the Reinhardt camps are concerned, there should exist countless delivery notes for mountains of wood. But the lack of such delivery notes doesn't bother exterminationist historians at all. Holohoaxsters like repeating: "If the Reinhardt camps were transit camps, show me documents on the transfer of Jews to Far eastern Europe." But they feverishly reply that your point is irrelevant when you ask them: "If the Reinhardt camps were extermination camps, show me documents on the delivery of the gigantic quantities of wood required to perform the cremation of millions of corpses." They are patently not willing to accept any kind of burden of proof on themselves. Obviously brand new for them.

Concerning documents, who was or still is in control of the archives?

Where is the records of empty trains? Taken, they may switched trains there.

Technicalities never bother Holocaustians. That was somehow beneath them. And asking was "shifting goal posts" or "unreasonable requests for evidence". But this is all lame excuses.
And yes, experience teaches they weren't too eager to take up the burden of proof, when they're the once and only once that have to carry it (technically). They think the "academic consensus" is what counts and makes something somehow true. Just that's kind of selfsustaining politics going on there. The "truth" will hence only change, when they deem it politically correct.

[HeiligeSturm]

.... not only are the bones a bit odd for proving cremation. We also don't have any idea whether that picture was in fact taken at Treblinka. Or whether those bones maybe props being placed there. Are those even Human bones.

Those could be animal bones which can be still found at the camp surroundings like Eric pointed out in Treblinka Archaeology Hoax.

[CWhite]

I'm not condoning name calling, but....

A true sign of Eric "panhandler" Hunt's insanity:

Remnants of a Mass cremation pit at Treblinka

http://questioningtheholocaust.com/inde ... -the-line/

How does a picture of uncremated bones prove cremation?

No wonder he's afraid to accept - The National Association of Forensic Historians - Crime Scene Investigation Challenge.

http://nafcash.com/

He knows he will get chewed up and spit out.

....

.... not only are the bones a bit odd for proving cremation. We also don't have any idea whether that picture was in fact taken at Treblinka. Or whether those bones maybe props being placed there. Are those even Human bones.

Eric Hunt claims that the photo is from an "excavation" - an obvious falsehood. Look at the weeds growing in the pit.

Take a look at the photo blown up. It's obvious that the bones were just thrown in the pit.

[CWhite]

Hector:

Where is the records of empty trains? Taken, they may switched trains there.

There is no proof that the number of people claimed to have been murdered and buried at Treblinka II ever actually set foot in the camp.

The National Association of Forensic Historians has this to say on the matter:

Not so much as ten percent of the number of jews fraudulently claimed to have been murdered and buried at each of these four sites [Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II] has ever been proven to even have set foot in each camp - not ten percent!

http://nafcash.com/

And of course, The N.A.F.H. also puts its money where its mouth is:

And for those weak-willed true-believers who lack the courage, integrity and character to accept - The C.S.I. Challenge; The N.A.F.H. also offers - a monetary reward for simply identifying / proving any untrue statement of fact found on this webpage.

So what does it say that no holohoaxer has ever been able prove that even ten percent of the alleged transited jews to those four camps were even transited there, much less murdered and buried in phantom "huge mass graves"?

Eric Hunt can't prove his "huge mass grave" claims, he can't prove his mass murder claims, he can't even prove his transited jew claims. He's gone psycho and burned his bridges over absurd beliefs that he can't even come close to proving are true.

[Mortimer]

Jan Karski, a member of the Polish underground, claimed that he was at Belzec. From the following article - "Karski repeatedly told interviewers that during the war he had actually believed that Belzec was a transit camp, not a death camp. Once Karski had given several such interviews, holocaust historians began to catch onto the fact that Karski's story was incompatible with the official history of the Belzec camp, and beginning in the late 1980's began to distance themselves from him."
What does Eric Hunt have to say about this ?
http://codoh.com/library/document/3336/

[Jurgen]

Yeah, I just re-watched Eric Hunts "THE JEWISH GAS CHAMBER HOAX".

I'd like to see a point by point rebuttal from Eric on all of the points he made in this video. What evidence does he have that the analysis he has made here is incorrect?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le6oF_oGYfg

"where did they go then"? doesn’t cut it.

[Hektor]

Jan Karski, a member of the Polish underground, claimed that he was at Belzec. From the following article - "Karski repeatedly told interviewers that during the war he had actually believed that Belzec was a transit camp, not a death camp. Once Karski had given several such interviews, holocaust historians began to catch onto the fact that Karski's story was incompatible with the official history of the Belzec camp, and beginning in the late 1980's began to distance themselves from him."
What does Eric Hunt have to say about this ?
http://codoh.com/library/document/3336/

He doesn't. At least until now. Karski may have kept some fragments from initial memory there. Eric Hunt, just like the Exterminationists, make a big fuss about finds of bones and bone fragments around Belzec. No Sherlock, did anyone dispute that some people may have died there and been buried? I don't think so.

[hermod]

Jan Karski, a member of the Polish underground, claimed that he was at Belzec. From the following article - "Karski repeatedly told interviewers that during the war he had actually believed that Belzec was a transit camp, not a death camp. Once Karski had given several such interviews, holocaust historians began to catch onto the fact that Karski's story was incompatible with the official history of the Belzec camp, and beginning in the late 1980's began to distance themselves from him."
What does Eric Hunt have to say about this ?
http://codoh.com/library/document/3336/

Funny to see how Karski has become a stone in the exterminationists' shoe. They couldn't dismiss Karski's testimony (a pillar of the Holohoax in its infancy) or endorse Karski's depiction of Belzec as a transit camp (would have been a huge and probably lethal concession to Holocaust revisionism). Thus Karski compelled them to squirm and claim that Karski visited a transit camp but not in Belzec. This specific move enabled them to avoid the most logical conclusion, i.e. the conclusion that Belzec was a mere transit camp and that Karski indeed visited it during WW2.

Also, disguised as an Estonian camp guard, he visited what he thought was Bełżec death camp. In actuality, it seems that Karski only managed to get close enough to witness a Durchgangslager (transit camp) for Bełżec in the town of Izbica Lubelska, located midway between Lublin and Bełżec.[7] Many historians have accepted this theory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Karski

Karski’s statements that he had seen Belzec as a transit camp, coupled with his newfound celebrity, put traditionalist Holocaust scholars in an uncomfortable position. Accepting that Belzec actually was a transit camp was out of the question. Calling Karski a liar was politically inconvenient, and would set a dangerous precedent. Consequently, they elected not to reject Karski’s story altogether, but to change his destination. The location they seized on was Izbica, a Jewish town located between Belzec and Lublin.

http://codoh.com/library/document/3336/

Karski repeatedly told interviewers that during the war he had actually believed that Belzec was a transit camp, not a death camp. Once Karski had given several such interviews, Holocaust historians began to catch onto the fact that Karski’s story was incompatible with the official history of the Belzec camp, and beginning in the late 1980s began to distance themselves from him. One of the first to express reservations in print was Raul Hilberg, who complained in his book Perpetrators, Victims, Bystanders that

Above all, trains did not leave Belzec or Treblinka[3] so that the passengers could die in the cars. Belzec and Treblinka were death camps with gas chambers, and these facilities were not mentioned in Karski’s account.[4]

The response to this troublesome witness was complicated by the fact that Karski had been hailed as a hero and savior of Jews. He had been named “Righteous Among the Nations” and made an honorary citizen of Israel. To call him a liar would be politically inconvenient. A more elegant solution was needed, and was found: Karski had not visited Belzec, but the Izbica transit ghetto, where he witnessed a deportation to Belzec. Thus altered, Karski’s observations would no longer contradict the standard Holocaust storyline.

http://codoh.com/library/document/3336/

Hilberg was very bothered that Karski didn't mention gas chambers in his account. But he was not bothered at all that Karski didn't mention "the largest transit ghetto in the Lublin reservation" in his account. A very surprising 'omission,' since the large Izbica ghetto was located right "on the other side of the railroad tracks." No chance Karski could visit the Izbica transit camp and fail to see the Izbica ghetto. And no chance either Karski could fail to mention this large ghetto in his detailed account.

Izbica Ghetto

The Izbica ghetto was a Jewish ghetto created by Nazi Germany in Izbica in occupied Poland during World War II, serving as a transfer point for deportation of Jews from Poland, Germany, Austria and Czechoslovakia to Bełżec and Sobibór extermination camps.[1] The ghetto was created in 1941, although the first transports of Jews from the German Reich started arriving there as early as 1940. Izbica was the largest transit ghetto in the Lublin reservation, with death rate almost equal to that of the Warsaw ghetto. [...] The Jews who lived in Izbica were kept separate from the new arrivals. They were housed on the other side of the railroad tracks. Also, the Jews shipped in from Germany and Austria were differentiated from Polish Jews by the color of the obligatory star of David signs, yellow for German, and blue for the Polish Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izbica_Ghetto

The Holohoaxsters squirms and evasions definitely make no sense...

Jan Karski, therefore, was a genuine witness to the Belzec transit camp.

http://codoh.com/library/document/3336/

[permanent_denial]

atomMan said:

"i'll call you out on that one - what evidence do you have that it's a forgery?"




The light is coming from top center of the gangster on the left.....the whole left side(to the viewer) of his face is brightly lit.

The light is coming from the top right of "Meyer Lansky".....the whole left side(to the viewer) of his face is in darkness.

This is impossible in a daylight situation.

That's proof that it is a photo montage without going any further.

I just want to get this straight without comment on the authenticity of this photo. Personally I find it a stretch questioning the shading, as left gangster's hat could have easily obscured light from middle gangster's face.

But Eric is asking us to accept as a mainstay of his new thesis without question, that thousands of Jews were herded ONE BY ONE into the gas chambers, each by several unarmed "SS Jews," and each with plenty of personal space/time for a unique photo op, which the "SS Jews" were happy and unashamed to pose for while tossing their Jewish brethren into chambers that would commit them to death by the thousands, and with the actual armed guards nowhere in even relative close enough proximity to police the situation in any reasonable manner.

That is absolutely absurd, I don't care whether this photo is genuine, nor where it was taken. Accepting the story that Eric purports goes along with it is the very definition of extreme confirmation bias.

[leiito]

I probably liked Eric Hunt's videos better than any other revisionist material and I can certainly understand that if donations for Why we believed 2 weren't forthcoming, he would accept an offer from the other side. Revisionism doesn't seem to pay well and being an ex-convict and a pariah in media and moviemaking industries, what possible career choice was there for Hunt? He can't be expected to flip burgers with his achievements and talents. And if he really has an illness and had a pregnant wife or girlfriend, changing sides would be even more understandable, we all need to provide for ourselves and those dear to us first.

As for his arguments, I fail to see how the disappearance of 1.2 million people sent East proves they were gassed, it's a strange leap in logic. And how do we even know how many people, or Jews, exactly were processed in the Reinhardt camps, sent East, never to be seen again?

He did make me slightly reconsider my own views, though. I don't believe the gas chambers existed as there simply isn't enough evidence and it seems far more likely that what happened is a confluence of British propaganda, cultural differences, misunderstandings and demonization. Having said that, I believe it's logically wrong to assume that nothing in terms of mass killings happened just because Elie Wiesel, Irene Zisblatt, Misha Defonseca and countless others lied.

Along the same lines, if the moon landing footage is fake, does that prove the moon landings are fake? No, it doesn't, it only proves that the footage is fake, there are other plausible explanations apart from landings being a hoax.

[hermod]

In these circumstances, Good to read or re-read David Cole's 1998 fake recantation.

Hollywood conservative unmasked as notorious Holocaust revisionist

Friday 3 May 2013

[...]

The young Cole became a notorious celebrity, the turncoat Jew, ferried from studio to studio, gleefully clashing with historians and Jewish representatives. However he grew uneasy when white supremacists and Islamic radicals appropriated his "work", he said, and he halted public appearances after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.

Another factor was a death threat from the Jewish Defense League, a militant, violent group. In January 1998, wanting to start anew, Cole wrote a letter to the JDL, recanting his views.

The threat was lifted. Cole, his credibility shredded on all sides, adopted the name Stein, chosen because it was simple and short, he said. Only a few close friends knew the secret.

'I haven't changed my views'

The recanting was fake, he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/ ... evisionist

Statement of David Cole

Prepared January 2nd, 1998

This statement is given in an attempt to set the record straight about my current views regarding the Holocaust and Holocaust denial. As anyone who follows the subject of the Holocaust denial knows, from 1991 until 1994 I was well known in the movement as a Jewish Holocaust denier (a self-described "revisionist"). For the last three years I have no longer been associated with this movement, having realized that I was wrong and that the path I was taking with my life was self-destructive and hurtful to others. I have spent the last few years in silence on the subject of my time with the denial movement, a silence caused mainly by my shame at what I had done with my life and my desire to distance myself from that life.

However, in that shame-induced silence it has been brought to my attention that I have not gone as far as I should have to make a clear and complete public statement in order to set the record straight as to where I stand.

It is my great hope that this statement accomplishes that task.

I would like to state for the record that there is no question in my mind that during the Holocaust of Europe's Jews during World War Two, the Nazis employed gas chambers in an attempt to commit genocide against the Jews. At camps in both Eastern and Western Europe, Jews were murdered in gas chambers which employed such poison gases as Zyklon B and carbon monoxide (in the Auschwitz camp, for example, the gas chambers used Zyklon B). The evidence for this is overwhelming and unmistakable.

The Nazis intended to kill all of the Jews of Europe, and the final death toll of this attempted genocide was six million. This atrocity, unique in its scope and breadth, must never be forgotten.

During my four years as a denier, I was wracked with self-hate and loathing, a fact that many of my critics were quick to point out. Indeed, this self hatred was obvious to most, but I was too blind to see it. The hate I had for myself I took out on my people. I was seduced by pseudo-historical nonsense and clever-sounding but empty ideas and catch-phrases. When my eyes were finally opened, thanks to several good, kind friends who refused to give up on me even at my worst, I was horrified by what I had done. My instinct was to flee and never look back, but I now understand that I owe it to the people I wronged to make a forceful repudiation of my earlier views. I also owe a very large apology, not only to the many people I enraged, and to the family and friends I hurt, but especially to the survivors of the Holocaust, who deserve only our respect and compassion, not re-victimization.

Therefore, to all of the above people, let me offer my most humble and very, very sincere apology. I am sorry for what did, and I am sorry for the hurt I caused.

And just as I must set the record straight concerning my views, it is also incumbent on me to set the record straight regarding the video "documentaries" and media appearances I did from 1991 to 1994. These "documentaries" are merely videotaped garbage filled with self-hatred and pseudo-intellectual nonsense. My "media appearances" were nothing but an embarrassment. My glazed look, specious reasoning, and talking-in-circles during my talk show appearances would have hopefully alerted any astute viewers that this was a man not in touch with reality.

It has been brought to my attention that Bradley Smith is still using one of my videos in advertisements he is running on college campuses. Therefore, I would like to make these additional points: This video is being advertised without my consent, and I denounce this video as being without worth. Bradley Smith is no historian, and denial is no "historical field". Students on college campuses should look elsewhere to find out about the Holocaust. To these students I would say, look to books like Hilberg's "Destruction of the European Jews", Yahil's "The Holocaust", and Dawidowicz's "War Against the Jews" for correct information. If your school library doesn't stock these books, have them order copies. Do not pay any attention to any "David Cole" videos, except to rightly denounce them as frauds.

I am thankful for being given the opportunity to make this statement. This statement is made freely and under no duress, and is quite willingly, even happily, given to Mr. Irv Rubin of the Jewish Defense League for the widest possible distribution. This statement is the most current and accurate compilation of my views, and it supersedes an previous writings, videos, or statements. It is my hope that there will be no more confusion as to where I stand. I thank you for letting me set the record straight.

[Signed]

David Cole

http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DC/censgunpoint.html

I know that Cole's new half-revisionist stand is a fraud and scam, but I just wanted to put his 1998 fake recantation in relation to Eric Hunt's 2017 fake recantation.

[k0nsl]

My understanding is that Eric Hunt received some substantial sums of money from people who were generous enough to give him money so that he would produce projects. One of those persons were Mr. Berg. As I understand it Eric Hunt took quite a lot of money and did not deliver the promised projects, so some people are now requesting their money back — as for him honouring their request? I do not know...but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Best wishes,
-k0nsl

[...]I can certainly understand that if donations for Why we believed 2 weren't forthcoming, he would accept an offer from the other side. Revisionism doesn't seem to pay well and being an ex-convict and a pariah in media and moviemaking industries, what possible career choice was there for Hunt?

[Darkshine]

I posted this in another thread and someone directed me here. Here's my two cents.

I haven't read anyone criticizing him. Everyone here is hypothesizing at Eric's bizarre behavior. And well they should. The exterminists are gleefully using this to undermine the whole revisionist movement, setting it back decades.

As far as the hypotheses go, I personally don't think the motive was money, and I'll tell you why. I think Eric is in the same position he details with Eichmann. He seems to be in a helpless position, where he can do nothing but cooperate. His hand seems forced, but he is giving us messages. As is standard with theses, a statement of intent is used in the first paragraph. What is his? "For over a decade I have devoted a great deal of my life to investigating what is known as “The Holocaust. I’ve endured 18 months imprisonment, overwhelming hardships, and live life as an outcast due to my activism as a Holocaust skeptic." He is clearly letting us know that what is to follow is related to his time in prison, living as an outcast, and experiencing hardships, all for his investigation of "what is known as the Holocaust". What is known. Not what is. This phrasing is deliberate. This would seem to be his message that he is under duress.

Like Eichmann, his only ability to really speak, seems to come from very obvious flaws in what he is purporting. He is clearly giving us messages in the fact that he has not removed his earlier videos. He has not created new ones with his new evidence and supposition. He has not gone against his earlier debunking by using concrete, forensic evidence. He uses 'evidence' like pointing out that no one took up the offer of a financial reward for anyone who can prove that a Jew was transported from Treblinka. Um, what? Did he not have videos with testimonials from several Jews that were transported from Treblinka? He uses meaningless pictures that show nothing, to let us know that, indeed, nothing happened at these camps. By his screaming lack of concrete evidence, he is showing that he does not believe what he is saying. He is sans passion and inspiration in what he is purporting. He has uncharacteristically made no effort at all to back up his new claims.

This is not a man who is getting paid. This is a man trying to let the world know he has no choice.