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museum to victims of communism

Postby cold beer » 4 years 3 weeks ago (Tue May 14, 2019 6:34 pm)

Here's a topic I've always wanted the details on.
Years ago I heard that a proposed museum in the United States, similar to the USHMM, for victims of communism got killed by politics and reduced a statue on a Washington DC street corner.
Does anyone have any information who proposed the museum, how it got killed and which politicians were involved in stopping it?
I think we can all guess why it never got funded.

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Re: museum to victims of communism

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 3 weeks ago (Tue May 14, 2019 6:48 pm)

Seems as though there's a movement for it

http://buildthemuseum.com/

The International Museum on Communism will be a world-class museum in Washington, D.C. dedicated to memory and learning. The museum will keep archives for scholars and host exhibits for visitors and schoolchildren. By revealing the nature of this tyranny, we can help ensure the triumph of liberty.


There is apparently a memorial though:

Victims of Communism Memorial
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_o ... m_Memorial

Possibly also there is an issue with alienating China (and maybe North Korea). If the museum was built, you can bet there would be a special section and emphasis on the Jewish victims (think the "Rootless Cosmopolitans") and no mention of the Jewishness of various commissars, such as Lazar "whatever is good for the Jews" Kaganovich and Genrikh Yagoda.


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"Nazi hunter" SWC head Zuroff: Israel should not recognize Holodomor as genocide because Jews did it
viewtopic.php?t=12269

Dr David Duke: The Secret Behind Communism
https://web.archive.org/web/20190507011 ... munism.pdf
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: museum to victims of communism

Postby cold beer » 4 years 3 weeks ago (Tue May 14, 2019 7:40 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:Recommended:
"Nazi hunter" SWC head Zuroff: Israel should not recognize Holodomor as genocide because Jews did it
viewtopic.php?t=12269


That's the most amazing article I've ever seen.
Nothing does a better job of exposing an off-the-scale tribal narcissism that as far as i'm aware is foreign to any other group of people.

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Re: museum to victims of communism

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 3 weeks ago (Tue May 14, 2019 7:49 pm)

cold beer wrote:
Lamprecht wrote:Recommended:
"Nazi hunter" SWC head Zuroff: Israel should not recognize Holodomor as genocide because Jews did it
viewtopic.php?t=12269


That's the most amazing article I've ever seen.
Nothing does a better job of exposing an off-the-scale tribal narcissism that as far as i'm aware is foreign to any other group of people.


At risk of being slightly off topic, you would maybe want to check out a book called "Born Guilty: Children of Nazi families" by Peter Sichrovsky. A revealing excerpt:
An interesting question touched on by a number of reviewers was how I, a Jew, came to write this book. Some Jews have maintained that this is a topic that would be better left to a descendant of a Nazi family. Others, on the other hand, believe that only a Jew could write about it, and that the interviewees certainly would have responded differently to someone else. Some have been struck by the fact that it has taken so many years for a book like this to be written, and by a Jew to boot. In the meantime a third generation has almost reached adulthood, and some who were born after the war are now grandparents. But it is part of the repressive process of the postwar era that up to now nothing has been written about the children of the perpetrators. And so it is no accident that I, a Jew, someone not burdened by past guilt, should have tackled the question of how these descendants of the perpetrators come to terms with the problem. In some of the discussions I was asked whether I hadn't attacked some of my subjects rather aggressively and thereby hampered an objective view of their attitudes.
From: http://survivorbb.rapeutation.com/viewt ... 7&start=10

Just think about that bolded statement for a moment. Sichrovsky accepts collective guilt, racial guilt: "You Germans holocausted by ancestors, so pay up to me!" like other Jews, but does not accept any guilt for the behavior of deceased Jews. And certainly I believe Sichrovsky knows about the Jew mass murderers Kaganovich and Yagoda, he knows why the Germans wanted the Jews off of their backs, they were quite explicit with it. But he, a Jew, is "not burdened by past guilt" :lol: :roll:
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: museum to victims of communism

Postby cold beer » 4 years 3 weeks ago (Tue May 14, 2019 9:16 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:
cold beer wrote:
Lamprecht wrote:Recommended:
"Nazi hunter" SWC head Zuroff: Israel should not recognize Holodomor as genocide because Jews did it
viewtopic.php?t=12269


That's the most amazing article I've ever seen.
Nothing does a better job of exposing an off-the-scale tribal narcissism that as far as i'm aware is foreign to any other group of people.


At risk of being slightly off topic, you would maybe want to check out a book called "Born Guilty: Children of Nazi families" by Peter Sichrovsky. A revealing excerpt:
An interesting question touched on by a number of reviewers was how I, a Jew, came to write this book. Some Jews have maintained that this is a topic that would be better left to a descendant of a Nazi family. Others, on the other hand, believe that only a Jew could write about it, and that the interviewees certainly would have responded differently to someone else. Some have been struck by the fact that it has taken so many years for a book like this to be written, and by a Jew to boot. In the meantime a third generation has almost reached adulthood, and some who were born after the war are now grandparents. But it is part of the repressive process of the postwar era that up to now nothing has been written about the children of the perpetrators. And so it is no accident that I, a Jew, someone not burdened by past guilt, should have tackled the question of how these descendants of the perpetrators come to terms with the problem. In some of the discussions I was asked whether I hadn't attacked some of my subjects rather aggressively and thereby hampered an objective view of their attitudes.
From: http://survivorbb.rapeutation.com/viewt ... 7&start=10

Just think about that bolded statement for a moment. Sichrovsky accepts collective guilt, racial guilt: "You Germans holocausted by ancestors, so pay up to me!" like other Jews, but does not accept any guilt for the behavior of deceased Jews. And certainly I believe Sichrovsky knows about the Jew mass murderers Kaganovich and Yagoda, he knows why the Germans wanted the Jews off of their backs, they were quite explicit with it. But he, a Jew, is "not burdened by past guilt" :lol: :roll:

Because of family matters I don't have the time available right now for entire books
It is a topic I've taken interest in as I see more and more of a mindset (jews) that is entirely alien. It makes me wonder what in their upbringing accounts for it.
Along this same line I watched a video years ago where a jew woman connected with developing curriculum for schools stated something along the lines that jews are guilt of nothing in history.

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Re: museum to victims of communism

Postby Hektor » 3 years 4 months ago (Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:04 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:.....
At risk of being slightly off topic, you would maybe want to check out a book called "Born Guilty: Children of Nazi families" by Peter Sichrovsky. A revealing excerpt:
An interesting question touched on by a number of reviewers was how I, a Jew, came to write this book. Some Jews have maintained that this is a topic that would be better left to a descendant of a Nazi family. Others, on the other hand, believe that only a Jew could write about it, and that the interviewees certainly would have responded differently to someone else. Some have been struck by the fact that it has taken so many years for a book like this to be written, and by a Jew to boot. In the meantime a third generation has almost reached adulthood, and some who were born after the war are now grandparents. But it is part of the repressive process of the postwar era that up to now nothing has been written about the children of the perpetrators. And so it is no accident that I, a Jew, someone not burdened by past guilt, should have tackled the question of how these descendants of the perpetrators come to terms with the problem. In some of the discussions I was asked whether I hadn't attacked some of my subjects rather aggressively and thereby hampered an objective view of their attitudes.
From: http://survivorbb.rapeutation.com/viewt ... 7&start=10

Just think about that bolded statement for a moment. Sichrovsky accepts collective guilt, racial guilt: "You Germans holocausted by ancestors, so pay up to me!" like other Jews, but does not accept any guilt for the behavior of deceased Jews. And certainly I believe Sichrovsky knows about the Jew mass murderers Kaganovich and Yagoda, he knows why the Germans wanted the Jews off of their backs, they were quite explicit with it. But he, a Jew, is "not burdened by past guilt" :lol: :roll:

That notion was first pushed by American psychological warfare.... And that under significant guidance of proponents of the Frankfurt School. They did however find some willing German collaborators in that. E.g.: Karl Jaspers, who is the author of this piece in 1946:
https://archive.org/details/TheQuestionOfGermanGuilt
They used some salami tactics in the matter playing with words like guilt, shame, responsibility, etc.
The Protestant state churches did something similar, albeit without most of the philosophical hick-hack:
https://www.elk-wue.de/fileadmin/Downlo ... aerung.pdf


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