Prussian blue wrote:Thank you for your answer. I basically agree with you, especially that securing lebensraum wasn't the reason the war was fought. And "Our settlement is proceeding according to plan and is calculated for the long term" shows quite convincingly, that this wasn't merely a short-term plan.
Indeed it does.
There are other pieces of evidence as well.
I have already posted here that 'eastern expansion' was a reference, not to Russia, but to the Baltic states
if anything. But this was ruled out, again, in late September 1939 when Goebbels wrote regarding the Baltic that: "We could also expand in the Baltic, but the Führer does not want to attack another state, and for the rest we have enough to digest for the time being." (
Wir könnten auch im Baltikum uns ausdehnen, aber der Führer will nicht noch einen Staat angreifen, und im Übrigen haben wir nun vorläufig genug zu verdauen.) Evidently this was not apart of some predetermined plan, as it was in the context of the territorial divisions between Germany and Russia, in which Germany
could expand further if she so desired, but Hitler didn't want to. Nor did this change in January 1940 when Goebbels remarked that the 'great eternal goal' of Germany foreign policy at the time was to defeat England and push her out of Europe, while also deposing France as a great power:
"The Führer is determined to wage a great war against England. As soon as the weather is good. England must be swept out of Europe and France must be deposed as a great power. Then Germany will have hegemony and Europe will have peace. That is also our great, eternal goal. After that, the Führer wants to stay in office for a few more years, carry out social reforms and his buildings, and then retire. Then let the others do it. He then only wants to hover over politics as a good spirit. And write down everything that still occupies him today. The gospel of Nationalsocialism, so to speak."
22.1.1940; Elke Fröhlich (ed.), Die Tagebücher von Joseph Goebbels, Pt. I: Vol. 7 (Munich: K.G. Saur Verlag, 1998), p. 280.
No mention of further expansion to the east, no mention of some grandiose plan. Nothing. It's very concrete and limited in scope, and the result of the circumstances thrust on Germany by the belligerence of the West's reckless declaration of war. By this time Hitler knew he had to confront them.
Really the fact that the first plan for 'Generalplan OST' is explicit about Germany's aims to restore the borders of 1914 is one of the big nails in the coffin of the '
lebensraum' myth. No further plans existed until the outbreak of Barbarossa. If we want to talk in terms of 'plans' then look no further than this one. That Hitler talked about turning the limited territory he had obtained from the old German territories into a granary meant there was
no need to expand further, this accounts for what Hitler said in the second book regarding the problem of food production and, as I said, effectively closes the book on Hitler's goal for
lebensraum.
Prussian blue wrote:However, in his Second Book Hitler elaborates quite at length why regaining the former German territories would not provide sufficient lebensraum (see quotes below). And the reasons given there were still valid in 1939. Do we know what had changed his mind by then? Realpolitikal considerations seem most likely to me.
I have already showed that the evidence is conclusive for this time, and the only conclusion to draw from it is that Hitler was satisfied with West Prussia and Posen being re-germanized and turned into a granary for German food production (and in October would authorise some tactical extensions of German territory beyond 1914, but there's no evidence this was concieved prior to September 1939). That Germany would also oversee - albeit lightly according to Hitler - the Generalgouvernement which would keep the Polish element away from Germany, is itself a change in what the Germany's territory had been in 1914, in the sense that the German 'sphere of influence' was much larger, and further east, than it had been previously. There's little reason to think that this wasn't sufficient to allay the concerns Hitler had in 1928, without actually turning that territory into an ethnic transformation zone which would become apart of Germany proper.
Germany had fine relations with Slovakia, Romania, Hungary and Lithuania. She also had good relations with Russia for a time, but a combination of
realkpolitik and the true Soviet aims put an end to that.
You also have to consider the other factors geopolitically which were different from 1914. Germany and Austria were unambiguously united under one banner when the war broke out in 1939, as was Czechoslovakia. The political arrangements in terms of state structure were monumentally different, in that when fighting a coalition of enemies there were not two governments in Berlin and Vienna which required arbitration. Similarly. Germany had friendly governments in Scandinavia and in Iberia. The whole European constellation was, more or less, aligning with German hegemony. The stragglers of course, were countries like Poland, which became essential to British foreign policy in their attempt to create a 'coalition' against 'German aggression', which was really just encirclement no matter what spin you put on it.
Also, it's a fact that Germany would
not have been facing the same 'phalanx of its former enemies' (
geschlossenen Phalanx seiner ehemaligen Feinde gegenüberstehen) after the military confrontation of the West. If the West's defeat had been achieved without a war with Russia - which became essential from a strategic/military point of view no matter how you slice it - then the potential threat to the east would be greatly diminished, and the threat emanating from the West completely destroyed. Thus, it would not have been necessary to acquire 'lebensraum' further east in 1939, had the West either accepted that it was reckless to fight any longer, or had Germany been capable of ending the war in the West by military means.
There's little, or even no reason to think Germany couldn't succeed in peace with the much better geopolitical position she had obtained after the war with Poland (those who think differently must inadvertently defend German 'aggression', so it's a 'lose lose' for those people), although this wasn't something which solely depended on her. This is most evident from the fact that the West did not wish to make peace, and thus propelled German expansion in order to defend herself from real and potential attacks.
The problem Germany was confronted with was that there were still potential enemies in the West and in the East. That she would have to contend with one of these is just the unfortunate thing about the German geographic position. This didn't necessarily mean war, but it was always on the table. It's all well and good for countries like Britain, France, Russia and the United States to talk of 'peace', they were not surrounded by potential enemies. Applying the same 'logic' to Germany is itself illogical.
Hitler was content with the outcome of the Polish war, his goal of
lebensraum had been achieved, and his books from the 1920s were abrogated thereby. As Hitler told the French philosopher Bertrand de Jouvenel in February 1936 regarding his relations with France:
"You want me to make corrections in my book, like a writer preparing a new edition of his works? But I am not a writer, I am a politician. My correction? I make it every day in my foreign policy [...] I will write my rectification in the great book of history!"
De Jouvenel, Bertrand, "Le chancelier Hitler nous dit", Paris-Midi, 28 Feb. 1936, p. 3. Cf. Philipp W. Fabry, Mutmaßungen über Hitler: Urteile von Zeitgenossen (Düsseldorf: Droste Verlag, 1969), pp. 190-191.
Certainly this is a principle which can be applied here too.