The Ganzenmuller Letter

[borjastick]

Albert Ganzenmüller (born 25 February 1905 in Passau – died 20 March 1996 in Munich) was a German National Socialist and, as the Under-secretary of State at the Reich Transport Ministry, was involved in the deportation of German Jews.

From Wikipedia

According to Wikipedia this is what the letter says

“A train carrying 5,000 Jews has run daily since 22 July from Warsaw to Treblinka via Malkinia; furthermore, another train has run twice a week with 5,000 Jews from Przemysl to Belzec. The senior management of the eastern division of the railways, ‘Gedob’ (Generaldirektion der Ostbahnen), is in constant touch with the security service (Sicherheitsdienst) in Krakau. The latter is in agreement that transport from Warsaw to Sobibor via Lublin should continue while the reconstruction work on this stretch renders such movements impossible ([until] approximately October 1942).”

Could I ask our German speaking colleagues here to translate the letter from the picture above and see if it does indeed say what Wiki says it does?

Then could I ask what this letter actually means, does it have any substance and offer anything more to the claims of Treblinka being an extermination camp. Putting aside the impossibilities of the claims that 900,000 jews were killed in gas chambers that were supplied by diesel fumes etc I wonder what this letter really means and does it carry any weight to the argument for or against.

[Hektor]

I'd say the translation is accurate. All this letter proves is that there were deportation of Jews and that there were delays of transporting them. It doesn't proof anything regarding extermination.

[Hannover]

Indeed, a la the Hofle document, anything which says 'transported' is impossibly claimed to mean 'murdered'.
But when Jews state that they were transported out of these 'extermination camps', the usual enemies of free speech & truth ignore it.

Now that is desperation.

- Hannover

“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”.
Arthur Schopenhauer

The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

The tide is turning.

[Lamprecht]

28 July 1942 Albert Ganzenmüller wrote a letter to SS-Obergruppenführer Karl Wolff.
Subject: Deportation trains to Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka

Unter Bezugnahme auf unser Ferngespräch vom 16. Juli, teile ich Ihnen folgende Meldung meiner Generaldirektion der Ostbahnen (Gedob) in Krakau zu Ihrer gefälligen Unterrichtung mit:

"Seit dem 22. 7. fährt täglich ein Zug, mit je 5000 Juden von Warschau über Malkinia nach Treblinka, außerdem wöchentlich ein Zug mit 5.000 Juden von Przemysl nach Belzek. Gedob steht in ständiger Fühlung mit dem Sicherheitsdienst in Krakau. Dieser ist damit einverstanden, daß die Transporte von Warschau über Lublin anch Sobibor (bei Lublin) solange ruhen, wie die Umbauarbeiten auf dieser Strecke, die Transporte unmöglich machen (ungefähr Oktober 1942)."

Die Züge wurden mit dem Befehlshaber der Sicherheitspolizei im Generalgouvernement vereinbart. SS- und Polizeiführer des Distrikts Lublin, SS-Brigadeführer Globocnigg, ist verständigt.

Translated

Referring to our telephone conversation of 16 July, I inform you of the following message from my General Directorate of the Eastern Railways (Gedob) in Krakow for your information:

"Since July 22, there is a daily train, each with 5,000 Jews from Warsaw via Malkinia to Treblinka, as well as a weekly train with 5,000 Jews from Przemysl to Belzek. Gedob is in constant contact with the security service in Krakow. The latter agrees that the transports from Warsaw via Lublin to Sobibor (near Lublin) will be suspended for as long as the reconstruction work on this route will make transport impossible (around October 1942)."

The trains were arranged with the commander of the security police in the Generalgouvernemen, SS and Police Leader of the District of Lublin, SS-Brigadeführer Globocnigg, has been informed.

On 13 August 1942 Wolff sent a response to Ganzenmüller saying he was very glad to learn that the Germans were now able "to accelerate this population transfer":

Für Ihr Schreiben vom 28. Juli 1942 danke ich Ihnen – auch im Namen des Reichsführers – herzlich. Mit besonderer Freude habe ich von Ihrer Mitteilung Kenntnis genommen, daß nun schon seit 14 Tagen täglich ein Zug mit je 5000 Angehörigen des auserwählten Volkes nach Treblinka führt und wir doch auf diese Weise in die Lage versetzt sind, diese Bevölkerungsbewegung in einem beschleunigtem(sic) Tempo durchzuführen. Ich habe von mir aus mit den beteiligten Stellen Fühlung aufgenommen, so daß eine reibunslose Durchführung der gesamten Maßnahmen gewährleistet erscheint. Ich danke Ihnen nochmals für die Bemühungen in dieser Angelegenheit und darf Sie gleichzeitig bitten, diesen Dingen auch weiterhin Ihre Beachtung zu schenken.

Translated:

For your letter of July 28, 1942, I cordially thank you - also on behalf of the Reichsführer. It is with great pleasure that I have taken note of your message that a train of 5,000 members of the chosen people has been coming to Treblinka every day for 14 days, and yet we are in a position to accelerate this population transfer. I have contacted the parties involved on my own initiative, so that the smooth running of all the measures seems to be guaranteed. I thank you again for your efforts in this matter and at the same time ask you to continue to pay attention to these matters.

I guess "Population transfer" is just another "code word" for "shove into gas chambers, burn in giant pyres, and bury in large pits"

[Nazgul]

The trains were arranged with the commander of the security police in the Generalgouvernement, SS and Police Leader of the District of Lublin, SS-Brigadeführer Globocnigg, has been informed.

I cannot find anyone discussing this quoted section of the Albert Ganzenmüller letter, dated 28 July, 1942. The spelling in the document is Globotschnigg, as it is in the 1947 translation. It should be Globocnik, the surname of the Lublin Gestapo chief.

This was an official letter from Albert Ganzenmüller, the Deputy General Director of the German State Railways.

The SS and Police leader of the District of Lublin at the time was SS-Brigadeführer Odilo Globocnik. Basically head of the Gestapo for Lublin. Not only is it a heinous mistake to totally mis-spell the name of the Gestapo chief it suggests that Ganzenmüller did not know the man, let alone collaborate as written. If trains were arranged in collaboration with a high ranking SS man, it is more than highly likely the name of that SS man would be known as well as the spelling of his name.

This is not a mere small typo but a major error unacceptable in any Government. The equivalent is the President of the US discussing the head of the CIA Bill Burns with another official, saying he and the CIA chief is in agreement, making plans and writing his name as Bumschnigg or something equally ridiculous.

There is no such German surname. Globocnik is a Slovenian surname. Globotschnigg is off the charts as far as German or Slovenian names are concerned, quickly identifiable by any German secretary of a high ranking official.

It is also noted that no other documents from Albert Ganzenmüller appear to exist, or readily accessible, just this apparent damning one which strangely mentions three alleged extermination camps, the first being the day before Treblinka was commissioned. It is impossible, at this stage, to verify the signature. It is also strange that this single document exists, written by Albert Ganzenmüller who must have signed thousands of official documents; this I find suspicious.

The document in colour is pristine, yet the translation written 5 years later is in a much tardier state. I doubt that the private Secretary of Ganzenmüller would have let such a non German spelling mistake of a surname occur.

I suspect that the document is a forgery translated in German from the English copy purporting to be the translation.

[Hektor]

....It is also noted that no other documents from Albert Ganzenmüller appear to exist, or readily accessible, just this apparent damning one which strangely mentions three alleged extermination camps, the first being the day before Treblinka was commissioned. It is impossible, at this stage, to verify the signature. It is also strange that this single document exists, written by Albert Ganzenmüller who must have signed thousands of official documents; this I find suspicious.

The document in colour is pristine, yet the translation written 5 years later is in a much tardier state. I doubt that the private Secretary of Ganzenmüller would have let such a non German spelling mistake of a surname occur.

I suspect that the document is a forgery translated in German from the English copy purporting to be the translation.

Especially when it is a high-ranking individual. And Germans can be quite pesky, when it comes to spelling mistakes. Not bulletproof, but a good indication that something is fishy. Consider that the oddities never get addressed by Exterminationists. They are not earnest to check documents they like critically.

[Nazgul]

Not bulletproof, but a good indication that something is fishy.

The family name was originally Globotschnig, but in 1825 a priest had Slovanised it to Globocnik. Education and research team

Many surnames change with time. For instance many Jews of Ashkenazi origin have added Berg or Stein to their names and stuck with them. “Berg” and “Stein” are both Germanized equivalents of two (Germanic-derived) Yiddish words, barg (mountain) and shteyn (stone). “Goldberg,” for example, means “gold mountain” and “Goldstein” means “gold stone”. People use their current surname.

While Globus may have been aware that his original surname "Globotschnig" that was changed 79 years prior to his birth, this was not the name anyone knew him by in the Reich. A metapedia article Metapedia last updated 25 October 2022, at 21:33 states

Odilo Lothar Ludwig „Globus“ Globotschnigg (sometimes Globocnik or even Globotschmig;

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I suspect this metapedia article is from a "believer" who has picked up on the potentially fraudulent letter claimed to be from Ganzenmüller.

It is only this article that states Odilo sometimes used Globocnik; in fact as the letter below shows Globus used the surname Globocnik in his official letters. It is this surname that would have been used in all official correspondence.

[curioussoul]

I don't think the spelling of Globocnik's name proves anything either way. I've seen the name spelled as "Globocnigg" by other NS-people as well (including, I believe, Rudolf Höss). Phonetically, it probably is the easiest way to interpret his name in German.

Either way, Ganzenmüller's letter proves nothing. It simply says "population transfer", which is the official revisionist thesis for these camps -- transit camps.