My Majdanek Presentation almost completed / now completed

[Hektor]

I am sure you all know about the two tanks at the Majdanek Room 14 that were said to contain CO gas for gassing rejects when CO2 is clearly stamped
Here is a Tweet someone sent me you all might find of interest
also see attachments if you do not know of tanks

Tweet contents:
They were installed at the turn of the 1940s/50s. Five CO containers were found at Majdanek in 1944: each had their serial number & Jennerwein/Brenner codenames. Soviets took all 5 tanks away together with many important documents - they might still be kept somewhere in Russia

Then they replace the tanks with something else?
Link: https://twitter.com/majdanekmuseum/stat ... T5ktz-rCZg

What are the tanks supposed to prove?
Problem is that something like a tank can be there for all kinds of reasons. It can be originally there, perhaps served for heating. But it could also have been placed there (for innuendo purposes).

"But there is testimony"?
Well, there is testimony in various directions. Which of the testimony is actually true, then?

[Fred zz]

Part of my reply to the person who sent me the link is as follows

The Russians and the Pols after liberating Majdanek in July 1944, did everything in their power including lying to sell this camp as a gas chamber death camp. In spite of the intense hatred towards the Germans, the Soviets who have possession of the 5 bottles, essentially THE MURDER WEAPON are gone. Instead of parading them in front of the world, Nuremberg and or Dusseldorf to showcase the evils that took place at this camp by the Germans, they are carted off to Russia somewhere never to be seen again and then replace the tanks with different tanks STAMPED CO2. Sorry, that would not hold up in any court.

[Hektor]

Part of my reply to the person who sent me the link is as follows

The Russians and the Pols after liberating Majdanek in July 1944, did everything in their power including lying to sell this camp as a gas chamber death camp. In spite of the intense hatred towards the Germans, the Soviets who have possession of the 5 bottles, essentially THE MURDER WEAPON are gone. Instead of parading them in front of the world, Nuremberg and or Dusseldorf to showcase the evils that took place at this camp by the Germans, they are carted off to Russia somewhere never to be seen again and then replace the tanks with different tanks STAMPED CO2. Sorry, that would not hold up in any court.

It seems they were more interested in sensationalism then. The photos shown there seem to show piles of corpses and a skeleton in a crematoria muffle (among other things). That is preposterous on its face. And it's similar to images the soviets spread later about Auschwitz. It's also funny that there are stylistic differences with images that Western Allies spread after their 'liberation of the camps'. The purpose clearly wasn't documentation as in a criminal investigation, but rather narrative creation. I false narrative one should add. A narrative virtually no 'Holocaust Historian' would still uphold today. According to them "Extermination Camps" were in the East and the extermination ended month before 'liberation'. In other words they acknowledge that 'dead people in the camps' were there for other reasons than any 'extermination program' being executed.

[Fred zz]

Sorry to do this to you all. In the past I said this was my last version. Just trying to make this the best and most accurate content as possible
I made too many changes to the presentation and went to V5

For what it is worth, here is a link on Dropbox in PDF: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cllk02efaoub7 ... 5.pdf?dl=0

Can someone quick tell me if the link is ok? Thanks

[Fred zz]

Here is an interesting contradiction at Majdanek I just detected some may be interested in.
Read where I marked in red.
first attachment is from the Majdanek website (cc)
and
Second attachment is from a sign posted inside Room 14 (The small control room at the alleged gas chamber building). (dd)

[Hektor]

Here is an interesting contradiction at Majdanek I just detected some may be interested in.
Read where I marked in red.
first attachment is from the Majdanek website (cc)
and
Second attachment is from a sign posted inside Room 14 (The small control room at the alleged gas chamber building). (dd)

This will be picked and put into a 'ya, but' type of argument. Neither hearing nor not hearing generators proves anything. Same with screams. You probably will get testimony for any possibility there. But it is designed to affirm the story.
* Heard screams? Ah, this proves they were gassing people.
* Heard a generator? Ah, they were distracting from the screams of those that were gassed.
* Heard nothing? Well, your testimony isn't really interesting. You just forgot about the screaming Jews in the gas chamber.

With the Holocaust paradigm controlling the minds of people anything become evidence for the Holocaust anyway. It's a closed loop thought system... And it runs like a program in people's minds.

[TLSMS93]

Majdanek's biggest problem that I consider is that the alleged gas chamber, which was in reality a room for disinfecting prisoners' belongings, which the Soviets interlinked with the prisoners' own "bath and disinfection" to give the impression that they entered , they took a hot bath to open the spores and facilitate the work of Ziklon B in the gas chamber that is the disinfection room, in Auschwitz this was not necessary for the narrative since there were no showers in the Kremas, it is completely stained with blue from the cyanide gas, this is because in that field allegedly died 78 thousand people, while the gas chambers of Auschwitz that in one of the Kremas are said to have killed more than 500 thousand people, this residue is not found in a thick way as there is in Majdanek, even if they demolished it still this color would be exposed in the rubble. David Cole raised this question in that questionnaire he did about the Holocaust.

[Hektor]

If the Krema's killed 500.000 people wouldn't one expect to find at least evidence for a singled person.

The idea of total destruction of all corpses simply isn't believable.

Far more reasonable that the Krema were build to handle epidemic dead and not for some sinister industrial extermination purpose.

[TLSMS93]

Another absurd thing I consider is the time between gassings. As the Holocaust narrative implies, the 2,000 bodies simply vanished into thin air from the gas chambers straight to the crematoria, and a new herd of 2,000 people entered the gas chambers immediately, without aeration of the gas from the previous gassing, without cleaning the excrement, nothing, a true effectiveness of German ingenuity. How many Sonderkommando were there to deal with those 2,000 dead? An elevator to take the crematoriums above that could only support 300 kg at a time, about 5 people at a time if the average of 60 kg per body is considered, to cremate in 15 ovens that could fit one at a time and one per hour, that being very generous with the cremation time, that would be more than a week cremating without stopping, that is, where did they leave the bodies in this interval to cool? Soon there would be no gassings in sequence, morning, afternoon and night, this would create a tremendous bottleneck. There is not enough fuel to supply these crematoria during the period in which the arrival of coal is recorded, it would only be enough for the people who died “naturally” in the countryside, as Mattogno explained very well. The gassed Holocaust is a peaceful point that was not viable nor did it happen, what remains of the Holocaust is the shootings in the east and the absence of records of Jews going en masse to the Occupied Eastern Territories, revisionists have to deal with these other elements.

[Fred zz]

Most people on both sides of the argument say there were 7 gas chambers at Majdanek. Actually, there were once 8 claimed gas chambers at Majdanek. Most forget that the shower room in the B41 men's delousing building up till the 1960s was also a claimed gas chamber. I posted an attachment for those who are not familiar with the room.
Soon I will be posting my arguments that the B1 room was not a Zyklon B gas chamber to the US Holocaust Museum in Washington DC and the Majdanek State Museum. The submittal is in the last stages of revision. I will not take up the CO gas claims so as not to confuse these people but will at a later date.
The other attachment here is a rundown on all the gas chambers ever claimed and their status for those interested.

Here is a new video out regarding Majdanek and female guards there for those interested. I do have a comment there
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2228ENWoYRk

[Hektor]

Most people on both sides of the argument say there were 7 gas chambers at Majdanek. Actually, there were once 8 claimed gas chambers at Majdanek. Most forget that the shower room in the B41 men's delousing building up till the 1960s was also a claimed gas chamber. I posted an attachment for those who are not familiar with the room.
Soon I will be posting my arguments that the B1 room was not a Zyklon B gas chamber to the US Holocaust Museum in Washington DC and the Majdanek State Museum. The submittal is in the last stages of revision. I will not take up the CO gas claims so as not to confuse these people but will at a later date.....

The confusion comes in about what a gas chamber is and what it does. There were delousing gas chambers, since lice were considered to cause diseases like typhus in humans. Now delousing of clothing was connected with having people take showers and also removal of their hair. All to protect them against the spread of those diseases. It explains how rumors could arise among people in or around the camps. The standard story was that people would be taken to the showers and then instead of getting a shower, they'd be killed with gas. Perhaps initially somebody even stated correctly what was happening, but consider that this was also connected to people actually dying of disease. so people killed in showers with gas is only garbling what people have heard. And that rumor did then spread and was later considered as 'evidence' for the gassing narrative. Main stream historiography did contrary to sound rules of methodology never consider this could be the origin of the story and simply assumed that the gassing narrative was correct.

[TLSMS93]

That facility at Majdanek today is no longer alleged to be the enclosure's gas chamber but rather a preliminary to the extermination of a smaller enclosure with walls filled with cyanide, interconnected by the Soviets after capture to give the impression that it had an evil purpose despite the witnesses claim that they passed by these locations and did not go to the alleged gas chambers, Eric Hunt, despite having defected to their side, made an accurate documentary about Majdanek. The thesis is that the Jews went there to take a hot bath that supposedly would improve the speed of death when exposed to Ziklon B, they refined their tricks to hold this field as an extermination field but there is no way, this field is fated to be declared as a normal concentration camp even by themselves.

78,000 people dead is the official number today, having that number of dead to have that amount of cyanide against the walls was for Auschwitz I or even the rubble of the Kremas to have something similar or worse, however the residues are the same amount as it is found in the other accommodations, even in the dormitory blocks.

[Fred zz]

No longer alleged to have gas chambers by who?
Here is current sign at the so called Majdanek gas chamber bunker
also
warm water showers clean pores, not open them by making them warm

[cold beer]

Fred, or anyone else, what are the best sources for claims that gas came through the shower heads?

[Fred zz]

I do not know precisely

Here are 3 attachments from Mattogno's Majdanek book
In general, my suspects would be the Soviets, Pols, and or the Jewish community