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Calls for preservation as chilling Auschwitz monument gives way to elements

Postby phdnm » 10 months 1 week ago (Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:13 am)

Calls for preservation as chilling Auschwitz monument gives way to elements

Memorial site launches crowdfunding campaign to raise 500,000 euros for preservation of thousands of shoes belonging to former inmates, including children, who were killed by the Nazis

07.27.22

A chilling monument in the former Nazi death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau is slowly eroding due to exposure to the elements and now the foundation running the memorial site is seeking to raise 500,000 euros for its preservation.

According to the Auschwitz-Birkenau Foundation, the state of a massif of 8,000 children's shoes belonging to former inmates is deteriorating and officials fear that it would cease to exist without preservation efforts.

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Heaps of worn-out shoes belonging to ex-prisoners at Auschwitz


The massive piles of worn-out shoes taken from men, women and children on the way to their deaths are one of the recognizable symbols of the horror of Auschwitz.

Many victims of the Holocaust remain unknown, and the shoes, clothes and luggage are the silent, authentic and only testament to their existence.

"The shoes are crumbling, and we don't have time to wait years. We need to preserve them now," said Auschwitz-Birkenau Foundation Director-General Wojciech Soczewica, who was on a visit to Israel.

The operation to save the shoes, he says, will last about two years.

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"Only a small part of the shoes is on display nowadays, and most of them are in storage. After we save them all, they will be presented to the public in a new exhibition. Every victim is a tragedy, but more so are the children. These shoes are material evidence of the crimes committed against them."

Soczewica says once the foundation launched its crowdfunding campaign, it received a 50,000 euro donation from a German shoe manufacturer.

"This is the first time in history the foundation received a donation from a private company from Germany," he reveals. "It has a historical connection and we are happy that a German company agreed to do this. Our challenge now is to raise another 400,000 euros."

He voiced his concern that the decay of the shoes would erase the last material evidence of many of those who perished at the camp.

"Although the shoes are stored in good conditions, it only slows down their decay, not stop it. That is our mission," Soczewica says.

"This is what the survivors tell us. We're not here to make things look pretty, we want them to look like they did in 1945, so we can't use chemicals to clean them.

Little by little, they are disappearing, and our mission is to slow down this process so that future generations can experience the horrors seen in these displays. In most cases, each object is the last material evidence of a prisoner in Auschwitz, who has no name or trace
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https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h1a1vfc2q



A good article by Pr. Robert Faurisson on that topic (Thursday, August 7, 2008)

The secular religion of “the Holocaust”, a tainted product of consumer society

The religion of “the Holocaust” is a secular one: it belongs to the lay world; it is profane; in actuality, it has at its disposal the secular arm, that is a temporal authority with dreaded power. It has its dogma, its commandments, its decrees, its prophets and its high priests. As one revisionist has observed, it has its circle of saints, male and female, amongst whom, for example, Saint Anne (Frank), Saint Simon (Wiesenthal) and Saint Elie (Wiesel). It has its holy places, its rituals and its pilgrimages. It has its sacred (and macabre) buildings and its relics (in the form of cakes of soap, shoes, toothbrushes, …). It has its martyrs, its heroes, its miracles and its miraculous survivors (in the millions), its golden legend and its righteous ones. Auschwitz is its Golgotha. For it, God is called Yahweh, protector of his chosen people, who, as said in one of the psalms of David (number 120), recently invoked by a female public prosecutor, Anne de Fontette, during the trial in Paris of a French revisionist, punishes “lying lips” (by, incidentally, sending them the “sharp arrows of the mighty, with coals of juniper”). For this religion, Satan is called Hitler, condemned, like Jesus in the Talmud, to boil for eternity in excrement. It knows neither mercy, nor forgiveness, nor clemency but only the duty of vengeance. It amasses fortunes through blackmail and extortion and acquires unheard-of privileges. It dictates its law to the nations. Its heart beats in Jerusalem, at the Yad Vashem monument, in a land taken over from the natives; in the shelter of a 26-foot high wall built to protect a people who are the salt of the earth, the companions of the “Holocaust” faith rule over the goy with a system that is the purest expression of militarism, racism and colonialism.

A quite recent religion whose growth has been meteoric


Although it is largely an avatar of the Hebraic religion, the new religion is quite recent and has exhibited meteoric growth. For the historian, the phenomenon is exceptional. Most often a religion of universal scope has its origins in remote and obscure times, a fact that makes the task of historians of religious ideas and institutions rather arduous. However, as luck would have it for that type of historian, in the space of fifty-odd years (1945-2000), right before our eyes, a new religion, that of “the Holocaust”, has suddenly come into being and proceeded to develop with astonishing speed, spreading nearly everywhere. It has conquered the West and intends to impose itself on the rest of the world. Any researcher interested in the historical phenomenon made up by the birth, life and death of religions ought therefore to seize the occasion, never so much as hoped for, thus offered to study from up close the birth and life of this new religion, then calculate its chances of survival and the possibility of its demise. Any specialist of war watching out for indications of a coming conflagration would owe it to himself to survey the risks of a warlike crusade such as the one into which this conquering religion may take us.

A religion that embraces consumerism


As a rule, consumer society places religions and ideologies in difficulty or danger. Each year, growth in both industrial production and business activity creates in peoples’ minds new needs and desires, truly concrete ones, lessening their thirst for the absolute or their aspiration towards an ideal, factors that religions and ideologies feed on. Besides, the progress of scientific thinking makes people more and more sceptical as to the truth of religion’s stories and the promises it gives them. Paradoxically, the only religion to prosper today is the “Holocaust” religion, ruling, so to speak, supreme and having those sceptics who are openly active cast out from the rest of mankind: it labels them “deniers”, whilst they call themselves “revisionists”.

These days the ideas of homeland, nationalism or race, as well as those of communism or even socialism, are in crisis or even on their way to extinction. Equally in crisis are the religions of the Western world, including the Jewish religion, and in their turn but in a less visible manner, so are the non-Western religions, themselves confronted by consumerism’s force of attraction; whatever one may think, the Moslem religion is no exception: the bazaar attracts bigger crowds than the mosque and, in certain oil-rich kingdoms, consumerism in its most outlandish forms poses an ever more insolent challenge to the rules for living laid down by Islam.

Roman Catholicism, for its part, is stricken with anaemia: to use Céline’s phrase, it has become “christianaemic”. Amongst the Catholics whom Benedict XVI addresses, how many still believe in the virginity of Mary, the miracles of Jesus, the physical resurrection of the dead, everlasting life, in heaven, purgatory and hell? The churchmen’s talk is usually limited to trotting out the word that “God is love”. The Protestant religions and those akin to them are diluted, along with their doctrines, in an infinity of sects and variants. The Jewish religion sees its members, more and more reluctant to observe so many peculiar rules and prohibitions, deserting the synagogue and, in ever greater numbers, marrying outside the community.

But whereas Western beliefs or convictions have lost much of their substance, faith in “the Holocaust” has strengthened; it has ended up creating a link – a religion, according to standard etymology at any rate, is a link (religat religio) – that enables disparate sets of communities and nations to share a common faith. All in all, Christians and Jews today cooperate heartily in propagating the holocaustic faith. Even a fair number of agnostics or atheists can be seen lining up with enthusiasm under the “Holocaust” banner. “Auschwitz” is achieving the union of all.

The fact is that this new religion, born in the era where consumerism expanded so rapidly, bears all the hallmarks of consumerism. It has its vigour, cleverness and inventiveness. It exploits all the resources of marketing and communication. The vilest products of Shoah Business are but the secondary effects of a religion that, intrinsically, is itself a sheer fabrication. From a few scraps of a given historical reality, things that were, after all, commonplace in wartime (like the internment of a good part of the European Jews in ghettos or camps), its promoters have built a gigantic historical imposture: the imposture, all at once, of the alleged extermination of the Jews of Europe, of camps allegedly equipped with homicidal gas chambers and, finally, of an alleged six million Jewish victims.

A religion that seems to have found the solution to the Jewish question


Throughout the millennia, the Jews, at first generally well received in the lands that have taken them in, have ended up arousing a phenomenon of rejection leading to their expulsion but, quite often, after leaving through one door, they have re-entered through another door. In several nations of continental Europe, in the late 19th and early 20th century, the phenomenon appeared once more. “The Jewish question” was especially put in Russia, Poland, Romania, Austria-Hungary, Germany and France. Everyone, beginning with the Jews themselves, then set about looking for “a solution” to this “Jewish question”. For the Zionists, long a minority amongst their coreligionists, the solution could only be territorial. The thing to do was to find, with the accord of the imperial powers, a territory that Jewish colonists could settle. This colony might be located, for example, in Palestine, Madagascar, Uganda, South America, Siberia, … Poland and France envisaged the Madagascar solution whilst the Soviet Union created in southern Siberia the autonomous Jewish sector of Birobijan. As for National Socialist Germany, she was to study the possibility of settling the Jews in Palestine but wound up realising, from 1937, the unrealistic nature of the idea and the great wrong to the Palestinians that such a project would entail. Subsequently the 3rd Reich wanted to create a Jewish colony in a part of Poland (the Judenreservat of Nisko, south of Lublin), then in its turn, in 1940, it seriously considered creating a colony in Madagascar (the Madagascar Projekt). Two years later, beset by the necessities of a war to wage on land, sea and in the air and taken up with the more and more distressing concerns of having to save German cities from a deluge of fire, to safeguard the very life of his people, to keep the economy of a whole continent running, a continent so poor in raw materials, Chancellor Hitler made it known to his entourage, notably in the presence of Reichsminister and head of the Reichskanzlerei Hans-Heinrich Lammers, that he intended to “put off solving the Jewish question till after the war”. Constituting within her a population necessarily hostile to a Germany at war, the Jews – in any case a large portion of them – had to be deported and interned. Those able to work were made to do so, the others were confined in concentration camps or transit camps. Never did Hitler either desire or authorize the massacre of Jews and his courts martial went so far as to order the death penalty, even in Soviet territory, for soldiers found guilty of excesses against Jews. Never did the German State envisage anything else, as concerned the Jews, than “a final territorial solution of the Jewish question” (eine territoriale Endlösung der Judenfrage) and it takes all the dishonesty of our orthodox historians to evoke incessantly “the final solution of the Jewish question” and deliberately evade the adjective “territorial”, so important here. Up to the end of the war, Germany kept on offering to deliver interned Jews to the western Allies, but on condition that they then stay in Britain, for example, and not go and invade Palestine to torment “the noble and valiant Arab people”. There was nothing exceptional about the fate of Europe’s Jews in the general blaze of war. It would have deserved just a mention in the great book of Second World War history. One may therefore quite rightly be astonished that today the fate of the Jews should be considered the essential feature of that war.

After the war it was in the land of Palestine and to the detriment of the Palestinians that the upholders of the “Holocaust” religion found – or believed they’d found – the final territorial solution to the Jewish question.

A religion that, previously, groped along with its sales methods
(Raul Hilberg’s recantation)


I suggest that sociologists undertake a history of the new religion by examining the extremely varied techniques in line with which this “product” was created, launched and sold over the years 1945-2000. They can thus measure the distance between the often clumsy procedures of the beginning and the sophistication, at the end, of the packagings designed by our present-day spin doctors (crooked “com” experts) for their presentations of “the Holocaust”, henceforth a compulsory and kosher mass-consumer product.

In 1961, Raul Hilberg, first of the “Holocaust” historians, “the pope” of exterminationist science, published the first version of his major work, The Destruction of the European Jews. He expressed in doctoral manner the following thesis: Hitler had given orders for an organised massacre of the Jews and all was explained as somehow coming of those orders. This way of displaying the merchandise was to end in a fiasco. With the revisionists asking to see the Hitler orders, Hilberg was compelled to admit that they had never existed. From 1982 to 1985, under the pressure of the same revisionists asking to see just what the magical homicidal gas chambers, in technical reality, looked like, he was led to revise his presentation of the holocaustic product. In 1985, in the “revised and definitive” edition of the same book, instead of taking an assertive, curt stance with the reader-customer, he sought to get round him with all sorts of convoluted phrases, appealing to a supposed taste for the mysteries of parapsychology or the paranormal. He expounded on the history of the destruction of the European Jews without in the least bringing up any order, from Hitler or anyone else, to exterminate the said Jews. He explained everything by a kind of diabolical mystery through which, spontaneously, the German bureaucrats told themselves to kill the Jews to the very last.“Countless decision makers in a far-flung bureaucratic machine” took part in the extermination enterprise by virtue of a “mechanism”, and did so without any “basic plan” (p. 53); these bureaucrats “created an atmosphere in which the formal, written word could gradually be abandoned as a modus operandi” (p. 54); there were “basic understandings of officials resulting in decisions not requiring orders or explanations”; “it was a matter of spirit, of shared comprehension, of consonance and synchronization”; “no one agency was charged with the whole operation”; “no single organization directed or coordinated the entire process” (p. 55). In short, according to Hilberg, this concerted extermination had indeed taken place but there was no possibility of actually demonstrating it with the aid of specific documents. Two years previously, in February 1983, during a conference at Avery Fischer Hall in New York, he had presented this strange and woolly thesis as follows: “What began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in advance, not organized centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint and there was no budget for destructive measures. They were taken step by step, one step at a time. Thus came about not so much a plan being carried out, but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus-mind reading by a far-flung bureaucracy”. To sum up, that vast project of destruction was executed, magically, by telepathy and by the diabolical workings of the “Nazi” bureaucratic genius. It can be said that with Hilberg, historical science has thus turned cabalistic or religious.

Serge and Beate Klarsfeld, at their end, wanted to set off on the same road of fake science when they called upon French pharmacist Jean-Claude Pressac for assistance. For several years the poor Pressac strove to sell the tainted product in a pseudo-scientific form but, realising the imposture, in 1995 he did a complete turnaround and admitted that, all things considered, the dossier of “the Holocaust” was “rotten” and fit only “for the rubbish bins of history”; such were his own words. The news of his change of heart was to be kept hidden for five years, emerging only in 2000 at the end of a long book by Valérie Igounet, another Shoah peddler, entitled Histoire du négationnisme en France (Seuil, p. 652).

A religion that has at last discovered the up to date sales techniques


It was then that the spin doctors came onto the scene. What with the product having become suspect and potential customers starting to ask questions, the “Holocaust” religion’s management had to steer an altogether different course and give up defending the merchandise with ostensibly scientific arguments: their new approach would be a resolutely “modern” one. It was decided to set only the very least store by efforts at logical argumentation and to replace serious research with appeals to sentiment and emotion, in other words with art: the cinema, theatre, historical novels, shows, story telling (the contemporary art of throwing together an account or framing a “testimony”), the media circus, stage designs in museums, public ceremonies, pilgrimages, worshiping of (false) relics and (false) symbols (symbolic gas chambers, symbolic numbers, symbolic witnesses), incantations, music and even kitsch, the whole thing matched with assorted ways of forcing people to buy it, including various kinds of threats. The filmmaker Steven Spielberg, a specialist in dishevelled and extraterrestrial fiction, has become the leading instigator for holocaustic films as well as for the casting of 50,000 witnesses. In order to sell their tainted product better in the long term, our fake historians and real junk dealers have sought and obtained the primary school “franchise”, with which they instil a taste for “the Holocaust” in the very youngest clientele: for it’s in the earliest years that appetites are acquired, making so that, later on, the customer need hardly be enticed: he’ll demand on his own what he enjoyed as a child, be it sweets or poison. Thus has it come to be that no one involved could care less about history: all serve the sole cause of a certain Remembrance, that is a jumble of legends and slanders that give the public the pleasure of feeling good andrighteous, ready tosing the virtues of the poor Jew and curse the intrinsically wicked “Nazis”, to call for vengeance and spit on the graves of the defeated. At the end it only remains to collect a flood of cold hard cash and receive new privileges. Pierre Vidal-Naquet was but an amateur: in 1979, he had shown himself from the outset to be too basic, too rough in his “Holocaust” promotion. For example, when asked by the revisionists to explain how in blazes, after a gassing operation with hydrogen cyanide (the active ingredient in the insecticide “Zyklon B”), a squad of Jews (Sonderkommando) could enter unharmed into a room still full of that terrible gas, then handle and remove up to a few thousand corpses infused with poison, he, along with 33 other academics, replied that he simply need not provide any explanation. Spielberg, a more skilful man, was to show in a screen drama a “gas chamber” wherein, for once, “by a miracle”, the showerheads sprayed… water and not gas. Subsequently, in his turn, Vidal-Naquet had, quite awkwardly, attempted to answer the revisionists on the scientific level and made a fool of himself. Claude Lanzmann, for his part, in the film Shoah, sought to produce testimonies or confessions, but his result was clumsy, inept and hardly convincing; that said, at least he’d grasped that the main point was to “make movies” and occupy the public forum. Today there is no longer a single “historian” of “the Holocaust” who makes it his business to prove the reality of “the Holocaust” and its magical gas chambers. All of them do like Saul Friedländer in his latest book (L’Allemagne nazie et les juifs / Les années d’extermination, Seuil, 2008): they leave it as understood that it all existed. With them history becomes axiomatic, although their axioms aren’t even drawn up. These new historians proceed with such self-assurance that the reader, taken aback, doesn’t realise the trick being played on him: the smooth talkers go on endlessly about an event whose reality they haven’t established in the first place. And so it is that the customer, believing that he’s bought some goods, has actually bought the smooth talk of the one giving him the sales pitch. Today’s world champion of holocaustic bluff is a shabbos goy, Father Patrick Desbois, one hell of a trickster whose various productions dedicated to “the Holocaust by bullets”, notably in the Ukraine, seem to have reached the very peaks of Judeo-Christian media hype.

A success story of the great powers


A veritable success story in the art of selling, the holocaustic enterprise has acquired the status of an international lobby. This lobby has blended with the American Jewish lobby (whose flagship organisation is the AIPAC) which itself defends, tooth and nail, the interests of the State of Israel, of which “the Holocaust” is the sword and shield. The mightiest nations in the world can hardly allow themselves to annoy such a network of pressure groups which, under a religious veneer, was at first a commercial concern only to become later on military-commercial, constantly pushing for new military adventures. It follows that if other countries, called “emerging”, want to be in good graces with a certain more powerful one, then they would be well advised to bend to its wishes. Without necessarily professing their faith in “the Holocaust”, they will contribute, if need be, to the propagation of “the Holocaust” and to the repression of those who dispute its reality. The Chinese, for example, although they have no use at all for such nonsense themselves, keep well away from any calling into question of the “Jewish Holocaust”; this enables them to pose as the “Jews” of the Japanese during the last war and so point out that they too have been victims of genocide, a formula which, they think, may open the way to financial reparations and political profits, as it has done for the Jews.

A particularly mortal religion


The future trouble for the religion of “the Holocaust” lies in the fact that it is too secular. Here one may well think of the Papacy, which, in centuries past, drew its political and military strength from a temporal power that, in the final analysis, ended up causing its downfall. The new religion is hand in glove with, all together, the State of Israel, the United States, the European Union, NATO, Russia, the big banks (which, as in the case of the Swiss banks, it can force to knuckle under if they show unwillingness to pay out), international racketeering and the arms merchants’ lobbies. This being the case, who can guarantee it a solid base in the future? It has made itself vulnerable by endorsing, de facto, the policies of nations or groups with inordinate appetites, whose spirit of worldwide crusade, as may be particularly noted in the Near and Middle East, has become adventurist.

It has come to pass that religions disappear with the empires where they used to reign. This is because religions, like civilisations, are mortal. That of “the Holocaust” is doubly mortal: it spurs countries to go on warlike crusades and it is rushing to its doom. It will rush to its doom even if, in the last instance, the Jewish State vanishes from the land of Palestine. The Jews then dispersed throughout the world will have only one last resort, that of bewailing this “Second Holocaust”.

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Translator’s note: The italicised English words are in English in the original.

NB: Already in 1980, in my book Mémoire en défense contre ceux qui m’accusent de falsifier l’histoire (“Statement of case against those who accuse me of falsifying history”, La Vieille Taupe, Paris), I dealt with “the new religion” of “the Holocaust” (p. 261-263). In 2006 I wrote two articles on the subject: “La ‘Mémoire juive’ contre l’Histoire ou l’aversion juive pour toute recherche approfondie sur la Shoah” (“‘Jewish Remembrance’ versus History, or the Jewish aversion to any thorough research on the Shoah”) and “Le prétendu ‘Holocauste’ des juifs se révèle de plus en plus dangereux” (“The Alleged ‘Holocaust’ of the Jews is proving ever more dangerous”).


Source: http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2009/03/secular-religion-of-holocaust-tainted.html

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Re: Calls for preservation as chilling Auschwitz monument gives way to elements

Postby Merlin300 » 9 months 4 weeks ago (Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:28 pm)

phdnm wrote:

According to the Auschwitz-Birkenau Foundation, the state of a massif of 8,000 children's shoes belonging to former inmates is deteriorating and officials fear that it would cease to exist without preservation efforts.


Been there and looked at the hokey display. Definitely not a "massif." A small pile on a sloped board. Professor Faurisson put a pair of flipflops in the pile.
There are more holes in the claim that these shoes belonged to inmates than there are in the shoes!
That last train of detainees arrived September 3, 1944. To explain the lack of bodies, we are told the Germans fastidiously
destroyed all evidence. Opps, they forgot a small pile of shoes, along with a roomful of documents, one or two "gas chambers"
and over 9,000 living inmates (another 56,000 detainees had left the Camp days before).

But why would anyone show up wearing worn out shoes? If these shoes really belonged to "former inmates," it is more reasonable that
the inmates showed up in useable shoes and then wore them out while LIVING in the camp.

The pile of shoes is part of the Soviet propaganda 4,000,000 dead lie, along with the Ring of Trees tale, the barracks full of inmates possessions
that "burned for days", human soap factory, whipping machines, bon fires of living babies, and other twisted sick tales that pollute our history.

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Re: Calls for preservation as chilling Auschwitz monument gives way to elements

Postby phdnm » 8 months 2 weeks ago (Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:41 pm)

Preserving the children’s shoes found at Auschwitz

A new campaign aims to save the historical artifacts from deterioration.

(September 22, 2022 / JNS) The International March of the Living announced on Thursday a global campaign with the Auschwitz-Birkenau Foundation and the Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial to preserve thousands of shoes belonging to children, most of them Jews, who were murdered in the Auschwitz concentration camp.

Around 8,000 children’s shoes found at Auschwitz are rapidly disintegrating and require immediate conservation so they can be retained as historic documentation, the Foundation said. The conservation project, called “From Soul to Sole,” will continue for two years. A global fundraising campaign has been launched to support the effort.

“We see the conservation of the shoes of these innocent children as an eternal testimony to the brutality of the Nazi regime as well as a significant educational initiative,” said International March of the Living Chairman Shmuel Rosenman and President Phyllis Greenberg Heideman. “We believe that everyone who has ever participated in the March of the Living and others around the world will want to take part in preserving the memory of the children and protecting these deteriorating artifacts from this dark chapter in history.”

The initial contribution to kick-start the project came from Eitan Neishlos, founder and ambassador of the March of the Living chapter in the Gulf States. He is also the founder and president of the Neishlos Foundation.

“In so many cases, the tiny shoes left at Auschwitz are all that is left of young Jewish children murdered by the Nazis,” Neishlos, who is the grandson of a Holocaust survivor, stressed. “By preserving these iconic shoes, we are preserving the memory of Jewish children who were the victims of perhaps the Nazis’ most harrowing cruelty.

“It is our responsibility as the next generation to keep their memories alive and give them a voice from the darkness. Now is the time for our generation to do whatever we can to preserve the memory of the victims and honor the precious living survivors,” he said.

Among the 1.3 million people deported to the Auschwitz camp were some 232,000 children up to the age of 18, the majority of whom were Jews.

Only about 500 children under the age of 15 remained alive in Auschwitz when it was liberated on January 27, 1945.


https://www.jns.org/preserving-the-chil ... auschwitz/


What next, hair...

Les cheveux d’Auschwitz / Auschwitz hair

Robert Faurisson


On the other hand, what is certain is that the collection of hair presented behind one of the windows of the Auschwitz State Museum is indeed misleading. Indeed, all or part of this hair collected in 1945 did not come from the Auschwitz or Birkenau camps but... from a carpet and stuffed animal factory, located in Kietrz! This town of Kietrz is located, as the crow flies, about ninety kilometers west of Auschwitz, near the Czechoslovakian border. A Polish expertise of March 27, 1947 relating to four kilos two hundred of hair seized in this factory made it possible to discover traces of hydrocyanic acid in hair thus described: "of little varied hues: dark blond, chestnut for the most part, some slightly grizzled”.

This presence of hydrocyanic acid was normal since, moreover, the factory had to disinfect the hair before making carpets or stuffed animals and that the Germans, like many other peoples, before and after the war and still today Today, used or continue to use Zyklon B (which is an absorbent of hydrocyanic acid) when it comes to disinfecting any material whatsoever and especially hair, with its impurities, lice and nits. But the famous magistrate Jan Sehn, of Krakow, famous for having interrogated Rudolf Höss and many other Germans in charge of the Auschwitz camp, hastened to see in it proof of a crime. He had this hair seized and offered it to the director of the Auschwitz museum, who accepted it.

And it is thus, the Auschwitz tourist will think, that the magnificent blond braid that sits in the middle of the pile of hair that is presented to him today as having belonged to "gassed" women may very well have belonged to a German Silesian who would have sacrificed her hair to the German war effort.


http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/198 ... hwitz.html

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Re: Calls for preservation as chilling Auschwitz monument gives way to elements

Postby borjastick » 8 months 2 weeks ago (Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:50 am)

The massive piles of worn-out shoes taken from men, women and children on the way to their deaths are one of the recognizable symbols of the horror of Auschwitz.


Around 8,000 children’s shoes found at Auschwitz


See what they did here? A massive pile then becomes 8000 shoes. The last time I looked I had two feet (two left feet when it comes to dancing). So what we have here is 4000 pairs presumably. It may not be that amount because they could be lying and who has counted them anyway? But let's go with it. So we have a pile of 'worn-out' shoes, which would have been for the rubbish anyway due to their decrepit condition and that is turned into a claim that these shoes were from children sent to their deaths. Really. On what basis do they state that?

It reminds me of the really rather laughable claims about Dr Mengele and twin children he was supposed to have operated on and done terrible experiments to. I have yet to see any evidence of these claims but again let's go with it. The claim was, I think, 6000 twins. Is that 12,000 individuals or 3000 twin children? These people are brilliant and manipulating and creating stories and numbers to suit their narrative.

I mentioned this years ago but the incidence of twin births in Europe is so low that the chance of getting anything like 3000 pairs of twins through Auschwitz is impossible. And why do we not see photographic evidence of these so called terrible experiments that the good doctor is claimed to have performed. Why? Because he didn't.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician

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Re: Calls for preservation as chilling Auschwitz monument gives way to elements

Postby cold beer » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:29 pm)

Did I see a newspaper article posted on the forum claiming that 700 Auschwitz twins showed up for a holocaust event in Israel?
Please point me to it.

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Postby borjastick » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:19 am)

cold beer wrote:Did I see a newspaper article posted on the forum claiming that 700 Auschwitz twins showed up for a holocaust event in Israel?
Please point me to it.


I debunked the 'Auschwitz Twins' argument a few years ago. It was simply impossible and against the laws of human reproduction to have had so many twins available let alone from one ethnic group. And you'll note that all these claimed twins were from the age group of under aged ten. Are they claiming that right across Europe in the mid 1930s there was a Tsunami of twin births among the very small jewish population? This would go right against the statistical averages of twin births which are incredibly small anyway.
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Re: Calls for preservation as chilling Auschwitz monument gives way to elements

Postby cold beer » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:03 pm)

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cold beer wrote:Did I see a newspaper article posted on the forum claiming that 700 Auschwitz twins showed up for a holocaust event in Israel?
Please point me to it.


I debunked the 'Auschwitz Twins' argument a few years ago. It was simply impossible and against the laws of human reproduction to have had so many twins available let alone from one ethnic group. And you'll note that all these claimed twins were from the age group of under aged ten. Are they claiming that right across Europe in the mid 1930s there was a Tsunami of twin births among the very small jewish population? This would go right against the statistical averages of twin births which are incredibly small anyway.

Thanks for posting your reply. I gravitate towards these mathematical improbabilities. But how do we substantiate that the twins were under the age of 10, is this mentioned somewhere? And do we have a reference for how common/rare twins were among the population?

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Postby cold beer » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:15 pm)

If it hasn't been mentioned it would be important to note that 50% of twins are boy/girl, which would have made them hard for Mengele to identify. And in the story is he experimenting only on identical twins?

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Re: Calls for preservation as chilling Auschwitz monument gives way to elements

Postby borjastick » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:48 am)

cold beer wrote:
borjastick wrote:
cold beer wrote:Did I see a newspaper article posted on the forum claiming that 700 Auschwitz twins showed up for a holocaust event in Israel?
Please point me to it.


I debunked the 'Auschwitz Twins' argument a few years ago. It was simply impossible and against the laws of human reproduction to have had so many twins available let alone from one ethnic group. And you'll note that all these claimed twins were from the age group of under aged ten. Are they claiming that right across Europe in the mid 1930s there was a Tsunami of twin births among the very small jewish population? This would go right against the statistical averages of twin births which are incredibly small anyway.

Thanks for posting your reply. I gravitate towards these mathematical improbabilities. But how do we substantiate that the twins were under the age of 10, is this mentioned somewhere? And do we have a reference for how common/rare twins were among the population?


OK good point about their age but I was always under the impression that the 'twins' child experiments were on younger children and not teenagers so to speak. On you other point about identical twins or not I also think I read that he was supposed to have carried out experiments on identical twins.One would be operated on and the other would be monitored for reactions etc. All of it seems to be nonsense of course.
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Postby Hektor » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:44 am)

borjastick wrote:....
OK good point about their age but I was always under the impression that the 'twins' child experiments were on younger children and not teenagers so to speak. On you other point about identical twins or not I also think I read that he was supposed to have carried out experiments on identical twins.One would be operated on and the other would be monitored for reactions etc. All of it seems to be nonsense of course.


Well, if that was the case, at least he'd follow the scientific method there. Having a control experiment in place.

But sorry that I'm a bit skeptical with stories about Dr. Mengele. Do they have any documentation signed by him one could have a look at?

That of the medical devices they used were rather experimental is actually something to be expected under war time conditions where the normal medical supplies become exotic to have substitutes at hand.

Ironically, the soviet propaganda movie on Auschwitz is actually proof positive that the children in Auschwitz were treated well and not 'exterminated'. The kids virtually all look wel-fed, happy and healthy unlike many children outside of camps at the time.

It's funny how people don't seem to notice this. They see concentration camp fences, camp uniforms, and kids therein and immediately they think: "Look, those darn Nazis exterminated the Kids".

With Cultists you can't win the debate based on evidence, merits, logic etc. the 'idol of the mind' needs to be broken first.

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Postby Whodunnit? » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:09 am)

"Ze Nazis went to great lengths to destroy all the evidence, evaporate the bodies by reinventing cremation, razed whole camps to the ground, used coded language, but - thankfully they kept the shoes".

It's all so stupid. It's hard to believe that we live in a world that pretty much has the Lolofcourse as the central "big bang" of all thought. Watch a non-jewish "modern philosopher" like Slavoj Zizek. He can't talk for 10 minutes with mentioning the "de Olocost". It is central to everything he says. And this goes for pretty much everybody. It is the nerve center of our time. There is no art, no philosophy, no politics anymore with "de Olocost", "Hitler" and "Nazis".

The war in Ukraine is fought because of "Nazis" and "Oy vey someone here is Hitler and wants to do Holocaust". You'd think that at some point they couldn't get away with it anymore. But they do.

This bunch of old shoes is symbolic for our time. It's ugly, worn out, utterly useless and needs to be discarded.

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Postby cold beer » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:42 am)

borjastick wrote:OK good point about their age but I was always under the impression that the 'twins' child experiments were on younger children and not teenagers so to speak. On you other point about identical twins or not I also think I read that he was supposed to have carried out experiments on identical twins.One would be operated on and the other would be monitored for reactions etc. All of it seems to be nonsense of course.


Every twin story I've ever heard involves young children, no doubt to illicit maximum sympathy. But that falls short of a source making that claim. On the frequency of twins I'm finding it put at between 4-6 occurences per thousand births prior to the introduction of fertility pills.
I haven't located your thread yet, I'd appreciate it if you could point me to it.

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Postby Hektor » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:03 pm)

Whodunnit? wrote:"Ze Nazis went to great lengths to destroy all the evidence, evaporate the bodies by reinventing cremation, razed whole camps to the ground, used coded language, but - thankfully they kept the shoes".

It's all so stupid. It's hard to believe that we live in a world that pretty much has the Lolofcourse as the central "big bang" of all thought. Watch a non-jewish "modern philosopher" like Slavoj Zizek. He can't talk for 10 minutes with mentioning the "de Olocost". It is central to everything he says. And this goes for pretty much everybody. It is the nerve center of our time. There is no art, no philosophy, no politics anymore with "de Olocost", "Hitler" and "Nazis".

The war in Ukraine is fought because of "Nazis" and "Oy vey someone here is Hitler and wants to do Holocaust". You'd think that at some point they couldn't get away with it anymore. But they do.

This bunch of old shoes is symbolic for our time. It's ugly, worn out, utterly useless and needs to be discarded.


"Children's shoes" played a role in the 'Eichmann Trial' as well. I think the witness was a psychologist, so I assume he knew what he was doing.

Prior to WWII, Dr. Adolf Avraham Berman, doctor of psychology was the director of the head office of the Jewish psychological and psychotechnical institutions in Poland (CENTOS). After September 8, 1939, children in Warsaw suffered horrible treatment at the hands of the Nazis. Berman attended to thousands of Jewish children in Warsaw who needed food, housing, and emotional support. He helped establish thirty orphanages and dormitories, approximately twenty day shelters, twenty food kitchens, and thirty children's and youth clubs within the Warsaw Ghetto. Furthermore, Berman helped to maintain an education system despite it being forbidden. However, in 1942 SS actions liquidated and destroyed the majority of these institutions in a matter of weeks. Berman became one of the commanders of the Jewish underground in the Warsaw Ghetto. After the war ended, Berman went to visit Treblinka concentration camp. During his visit, he encountered piles of possessions including thousands of children's shoes. This sight significantly affected him, and he took a pair of shoes, which he still has in his possession. In 1961, Berman lived in Tel Aviv, Israel.

Treblinka must have been closed for two years then already. Even, if he did find shoes there, how does he link this to the camp or even people (children) killed there? He can't, but he does.
Court Room theatrics at its best. You'd think people figured out they are taken for a ride, but they don't.

Amazingly, both sides in the Ukraine conflict insist they are fighting Nazis and another Hitler. Unbelievable. I wonder, if they are going to blame the scape-goat Hitler again for the Ukraine war. In embryonic form it's already the case. The madness and obsession to find 'another Hitler' everywhere. And what gives that Hitler2.0. power. "The Holocaust" of course.

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Postby cold beer » 1 month 3 weeks ago (Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:08 pm)

Hektor wrote:"Children's shoes" played a role in the 'Eichmann Trial' as well. I think the witness was a psychologist, so I assume he knew what he was doing.

Avraham Berman a devote communist was the brother of Jakob Berman chief of the 'security apparatus' in post war Poland, the Poland sector of the NKVD. Jakob Berman relocated to Ufa Russia during the war where he trained recruits at a Comintern school.

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Postby Hektor » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:37 am)

cold beer wrote:
Hektor wrote:"Children's shoes" played a role in the 'Eichmann Trial' as well. I think the witness was a psychologist, so I assume he knew what he was doing.

Avraham Berman a devote communist was the brother of Jakob Berman chief of the 'security apparatus' in post war Poland, the Poland sector of the NKVD. Jakob Berman relocated to Ufa Russia during the war where he trained recruits at a Comintern school.



Is it this Jacob Berman?
WARSAW, Sept. 21 -- The Polish United Workers (Communist) party will "wage a merciless battle against all vestiges of rightist or nationalist deviation and social democratism" left in its ranks, Jakob Berman, secretary general of Poland's Political Bureau, declared yesterday.
https://www.nytimes.com/1949/09/22/arch ... ainst.html


One of “them” was Jakob Berman--for years after the war one of the most important figures in Poland and described by Toranska as the “brains” behind Poland’s Communist Party. Toranska asked him about the rigged postwar elections that brought the Communists to power.

Berman said the party’s actions were compelled by the situation. “In an election, we can’t go by the criterion of a majority, because then there isn’t anyone we can hand over power to,” he said flatly. “There wasn’t then and there isn’t now.”

By the same reasoning, evidently, Polish secret police in those early postwar years were executing 50 to 100 people a month. Up to 150,000 were held in security prisons and dungeons. This was the advent of communism in Eastern Europe, carried out with minor variations throughout the Soviet Bloc. Sham elections, always backed by force. It was never quite enough, of course, to tame the opposition. There were worker uprisings in Poland in 1956. Also in 1956, Hungary exploded with the first all-out armed insurrection against the Communists. It was put down mightily by the Soviet army, and the resulting round of purges, show trials, imprisonments and executions left Hungary stunned for a generation.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html


Adolf Abraham Berman...
... organises emigration to Israel from Poland:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... %20Berman#
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... f%20Berman

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... f%20Berman

....Speaks in Australia:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... f%20Berman

Rather prominent figure then. In Poland, in Israel and with some international connections.


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