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- borjastick
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Holocaust Remembrance Time Again...
Yes folks after one whole year of pain and suffering while we were expectantly waiting for the special day that comes but once a year here it is again and no it's not your birthday, it's Holocaust Remembrance time.
Please feel free to post to links of media stories about this special event that we simply must not forget and must thrust down the necks of every idiot on the face of the planet.
I'll start the ball rolling with today's Daily Mail in jolly old England which has two, not one, stories on the matter.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... caust.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/arti ... d-War.html
Honestly where would they be without the holocaust?
Please feel free to post to links of media stories about this special event that we simply must not forget and must thrust down the necks of every idiot on the face of the planet.
I'll start the ball rolling with today's Daily Mail in jolly old England which has two, not one, stories on the matter.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... caust.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/arti ... d-War.html
Honestly where would they be without the holocaust?
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
- Waldgänger
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Not posting a link, just wish to register my amusement at the first story. It mentions "Summer 1942" and "Bitter cold" in the same paragraph-sentence without elaboration. We know what they're trying to convey, but the poverty of writing is very amusing. The Daily Mail is probably tailored to literary 7-year-olds.
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Waldgänger wrote:Not posting a link, just wish to register my amusement at the first story. It mentions "Summer 1942" and "Bitter cold" in the same paragraph-sentence without elaboration. We know what they're trying to convey, but the poverty of writing is very amusing. The Daily Mail is probably tailored to literary 7-year-olds.
And it's getting more ridiculous. They obviously have to employ less intelligent journalists whose specialty is emotional appeal. Some dry analytic piece probably won't have the desired effect there. No, mass appeal.
Bwahaha... And everybody I do not like is literally Hitler:
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-729025
The stories are repetitive almost everywhere:
https://www.iol.co.za/entertainment/mov ... b75eb549d5
Some "only survivor" that was 'happy' until them evil Nazis came, took them and 'killed their whole family'. If the narrative was true, one would have expected that they'd run out of survivors. But they didn't... It seemed as if there was an endless supply of survivors.
Looking back at the last decades concerning the struggle about 'Holocaust memory'. It is also clear that things changed. Most Westerners didn't even realize what this is all about. That it isn't really directed against a past regime in Germany, but that it is all about themselves. Gas light people emotionally as to gain sympathy for 'Israel' and Jews, which could shield them against any critique by non-Jews anywhere. Even, if one isn't a Revisionist one could easily object to the psychological abuse by the Holocaust Industry. But most chose not to engage in that. In fact the various political parties and camps in Western country adopted 'Holocausting' in their own strategies and tactics as can be seen in their political discourses.
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Some "only survivor" that was 'happy' until them evil Nazis came, took them and 'killed their whole family'. If the narrative was true, one would have expected that they'd run out of survivors. But they didn't... It seemed as if there was an endless supply of survivors.
As you have seen in other posts, I particularly enjoy individual stories more than statistics and talk of chemistry & physics. Reading stories of victims & survivors on Wikipedia is always an observation of conflicting stories, but another I've found tonight 'takes the cake'. A Jewish photographer who famously went by the name Yva. Her DE wiki says she died around June 25, 1942 in SOBIBOR, but her ENG wiki surmises about June 13, 1942 in MAJDANEK. They can't even get these facts correct between various language wikis, let alone between different survivor/victim stories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yva
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yva
Note, her Stolperstein says "murdered in Majdanek", as if this is a concrete reality grounded in sources: documentation, eyewitnesses, anything. But it simply isn't. The wiki is quite conclusively vague. She "probably" died around X date, "probably" in Majdanek or Sobibor!? In reality she could have died from malnutrition, typhus, hard labour, perhaps even partisan operations, anything. To assume she was gassed is a leap. Also, incidentally, why would a death train en route to Sobibor stop at Majdanek and drop off half of its load? Did it also, perhaps, stop at other camps for work or resettlement? Why not?
Were this a forensic trial, the contradictions of time & place would lead the prosecution to drop any charge of murder, and merely allow that the dead remains missing. But here we are, in a world of lies and politics.
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Waldgänger wrote:Some "only survivor" that was 'happy' until them evil Nazis came, took them and 'killed their whole family'. If the narrative was true, one would have expected that they'd run out of survivors. But they didn't... It seemed as if there was an endless supply of survivors.
As you have seen in other posts, I particularly enjoy individual stories more than statistics and talk of chemistry & physics. Reading stories of victims & survivors on Wikipedia is always an observation of conflicting stories, but another I've found tonight 'takes the cake'. A Jewish photographer who famously went by the name Yva. Her DE wiki says she died around June 25, 1942 in SOBIBOR, but her ENG wiki surmises about June 13, 1942 in MAJDANEK. They can't even get these facts correct between various language wikis, let alone between different survivor/victim stories.
The stories are frequently contradictory or outrightly ridiculous. A trained historian should actually detect that. But yet, there is virtually (Main Stream) no History papers published on this. And that gives wiki and others the opportunity to ignore the problem.
Waldgänger wrote:...
Note, her Stolperstein says "murdered in Majdanek", as if this is a concrete reality grounded in sources: documentation, eyewitnesses, anything. But it simply isn't. The wiki is quite conclusively vague. She "probably" died around X date, "probably" in Majdanek or Sobibor!? In reality she could have died from malnutrition, typhus, hard labour, perhaps even partisan operations, anything. To assume she was gassed is a leap. Also, incidentally, why would a death train en route to Sobibor stop at Majdanek and drop off half of its load? Did it also, perhaps, stop at other camps for work or resettlement? Why not?
Were this a forensic trial, the contradictions of time & place would lead the prosecution to drop any charge of murder, and merely allow that the dead remains missing. But here we are, in a world of lies and politics.
That "Stolperstein" issue is another ploy. Simply list people that are reported 'victims'. And what qualifies is having been deported, while they couldn't track your whereabouts afterwards. This counts then as murdered. Holocaust consists of declarative statements illustrated with juicy pictures of late war starvation and disease victims. A tangled web has been woven. But they count on historians and academics toeing the line after it.
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Waldgänger wrote: It mentions "Summer 1942" and "Bitter cold" in the same paragraph-sentence without elaboration.
Not in the same paragraph-sentence.
"Surprisingly, however, in the book [Schlomo] Venezia does not describe it at all: he
does not indicate its size, its location in the building..." - C. Mattogno: Sonderkommando III
does not indicate its size, its location in the building..." - C. Mattogno: Sonderkommando III
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OK last night on BBC two in the UK was shown a new documentary. I wasn't aware this was coming up and only saw the first half an hour of an hour long programme.
It was called How The Holocaust Began It was written and presented by James Bulgin
I'll get back to him in a moment because he is an odd little fellow and was doing a very good impression of Caroline Sturdey Colls.
My first point is that if anyone else here saw this documentary last night can you please chip in here as I obviously missed a chunk of it and some potentially important details.
His take is basically this: That the holocaust began in reality just moments after the Germans invaded Russian territory in Operation Barbarossa. He says that immediately afterwards the Einsatzgruppen (which he could not pronounce properly) went into villages and slaughtered jews en masse.
He went to Cambridge university to meet some boffin who had 'new' aerial photos of the first few days after the Operation started and had been take by German reconnaissance planes to report back to base on the progress. In these pictures they also caught their own murderous campaign on record. The boffin laid out a large print of one of the aerial photos and showed Bulgin the village just inside the Russian area not a few hundred metres from the German border. He then pointed out a line in a field at the top of the village which he claimed was odd, was not normal in the layout of the fields and thus his conclusion was that it was a trench in which local jews were shot dead. No evidence at all was offered to back this claim up and on the shot on camera it was impossible to see what the line was. No questions were asked it was simply presented as a fact.
Now we get to the oddities of Bulgin. He starts to wring his hands, close his eyes in extended periods and hold his head in his hands in an emotional display of shock, horror and fake tears. Just as Caroline Sturdey Colls did in Treblinka. He continues this affected behaviour throughout the programme as if his credibility and fee would be improved by how much emotion he could gush.
The show then moved to the beaches somewhere at the site of the shootings in the sand dunes. Pictures we have all seen before of the woman undressing and then being shot. Not nice, not in dispute really but also never explained. Just the usual shock horror that 'innocent jews' were killed by SS.
He then goes to Alytus in Lithuania. I could be wrong on these locations because no captions were shown on screen and I may have misheard. Here it is claimed that a mass shooting was carried out and a large (700?) jews were shot in the woods just a short walk up a dirt track from the centre of town. Here he meets a lady who is the head of the jews in the town today. She claims her grandmother was never seen again after the shooting but also says something like 'we don't know if she was shot'. They sit down in the woods to talk this through and he once again starts his emotional routine of closing his eyes, pretending to be close to tears and holding his head in his hands. The issue here though is he admits that the SS Einsatgruppen couldn't have done this by themselves as there were just twelve in that town on that day. She then claims the locals turned on the jews and helped murder them enthusiastically with even children joining in. Once again no proof, evidence, excavations or forensics were asked for nor shown.
That's as far as I watched so if anyone can add to this please do.
This progamme was introduced as part of the BBC's holocaust remembrance week.
Another overall point I would make is that this programme was trying to make the Holocaust by Bullets the main deal. He was quite clear that many many jews were slaughtered by locals and the Einsatzgruppen in villages right across the regions and this has not been highlighted so much before.
My take away is that they are now in full-on Holocaust by Bullets rhetoric because of one thing and one thing only;
They know the claims of gas chambers and millions murdered in the death camps have been busted, hold no water and have failed to be believed by the general public.
Expect far more of Holocaust by Bullets in the future because this is the new battle ground for the holocaust establishment.
It was called How The Holocaust Began It was written and presented by James Bulgin
I'll get back to him in a moment because he is an odd little fellow and was doing a very good impression of Caroline Sturdey Colls.
My first point is that if anyone else here saw this documentary last night can you please chip in here as I obviously missed a chunk of it and some potentially important details.
His take is basically this: That the holocaust began in reality just moments after the Germans invaded Russian territory in Operation Barbarossa. He says that immediately afterwards the Einsatzgruppen (which he could not pronounce properly) went into villages and slaughtered jews en masse.
He went to Cambridge university to meet some boffin who had 'new' aerial photos of the first few days after the Operation started and had been take by German reconnaissance planes to report back to base on the progress. In these pictures they also caught their own murderous campaign on record. The boffin laid out a large print of one of the aerial photos and showed Bulgin the village just inside the Russian area not a few hundred metres from the German border. He then pointed out a line in a field at the top of the village which he claimed was odd, was not normal in the layout of the fields and thus his conclusion was that it was a trench in which local jews were shot dead. No evidence at all was offered to back this claim up and on the shot on camera it was impossible to see what the line was. No questions were asked it was simply presented as a fact.
Now we get to the oddities of Bulgin. He starts to wring his hands, close his eyes in extended periods and hold his head in his hands in an emotional display of shock, horror and fake tears. Just as Caroline Sturdey Colls did in Treblinka. He continues this affected behaviour throughout the programme as if his credibility and fee would be improved by how much emotion he could gush.
The show then moved to the beaches somewhere at the site of the shootings in the sand dunes. Pictures we have all seen before of the woman undressing and then being shot. Not nice, not in dispute really but also never explained. Just the usual shock horror that 'innocent jews' were killed by SS.
He then goes to Alytus in Lithuania. I could be wrong on these locations because no captions were shown on screen and I may have misheard. Here it is claimed that a mass shooting was carried out and a large (700?) jews were shot in the woods just a short walk up a dirt track from the centre of town. Here he meets a lady who is the head of the jews in the town today. She claims her grandmother was never seen again after the shooting but also says something like 'we don't know if she was shot'. They sit down in the woods to talk this through and he once again starts his emotional routine of closing his eyes, pretending to be close to tears and holding his head in his hands. The issue here though is he admits that the SS Einsatgruppen couldn't have done this by themselves as there were just twelve in that town on that day. She then claims the locals turned on the jews and helped murder them enthusiastically with even children joining in. Once again no proof, evidence, excavations or forensics were asked for nor shown.
That's as far as I watched so if anyone can add to this please do.
This progamme was introduced as part of the BBC's holocaust remembrance week.
Another overall point I would make is that this programme was trying to make the Holocaust by Bullets the main deal. He was quite clear that many many jews were slaughtered by locals and the Einsatzgruppen in villages right across the regions and this has not been highlighted so much before.
My take away is that they are now in full-on Holocaust by Bullets rhetoric because of one thing and one thing only;
They know the claims of gas chambers and millions murdered in the death camps have been busted, hold no water and have failed to be believed by the general public.
Expect far more of Holocaust by Bullets in the future because this is the new battle ground for the holocaust establishment.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
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borjastick wrote:OK last night on BBC two in the UK was shown a new documentary. I wasn't aware this was coming up and only saw the first half an hour of an hour long programme.
It was called How The Holocaust Began It was written and presented by James BulginScreenshot 2023-01-24 at 09-09-18 - James - Bulgin London School of Jewish Studies.png
I'll get back to him in a moment because he is an odd little fellow and was doing a very good impression of Caroline Sturdey Colls.
My first point is that if anyone else here saw this documentary last night can you please chip in here as I obviously missed a chunk of it and some potentially important details.
His take is basically this: That the holocaust began in reality just moments after the Germans invaded Russian territory in Operation Barbarossa. He says that immediately afterwards the Einsatzgruppen (which he could not pronounce properly) went into villages and slaughtered jews en masse......
Actually, with the retreat of the Red Army (after Barbarossa started) and before the Wehrmacht arrived in those area. Locals went on pogroms against Jews, there. Can Bulgin imagine why that may have been the case? It may have got more to do with the locals having noticed who pre-dominantly joined the ranks of the Communist Party, their secret police organizations as well as the bureaucracy in those areas after the Red army had occupied it in 1940.
What he suggests of the Einsatzgruppen was that they did what the Holocaust Narrative claims they did (finding, arresting, killing Jews, burying them, then digging them out and making all the evidence vanish afterwards). But that doesn't really convince, if one looks at the numbers and staffing of the Einsatzgruppen. It was mainly an intelligence organization as well engaging in purging the areas of Communists and their helpers or Partisans in the rear of the Axis armed forces invading the Soviet Union. Did they kill Jews? Probably, but this was merely because they were high up in the Soviet administration or supporting the Partisans and spies in those areas. It's of course inconvenient to mention the relationship between ethnicity and engagement in Communism, their secret police, espionage and partisan activity. So rather construct some genocidal story around it, insisting that irrational Antisemitism was the motive.
In these pictures they also caught their own murderous campaign on record. The boffin laid out a large print of one of the aerial photos and showed Bulgin the village just inside the Russian area not a few hundred metres from the German border. He then pointed out a line in a field at the top of the village which he claimed was odd, was not normal in the layout of the fields and thus his conclusion was that it was a trench in which local jews were shot dead. No evidence at all was offered to back this claim up and on the shot on camera it was impossible to see what the line was. No questions were asked it was simply presented as a fact.
He's suggesting that aerial photos 'show Jews having been shot on a large scale', right?
But how does he know this? He doesn't. But claiming it is of course more convenient than allowing the alternative explanation that those may e.g. have been mass graves of people being killed by the NKWD, which actually may have been staffed heavily by Jews at the time.
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Yes folks after one whole year of pain and suffering while we were expectantly waiting for the special day that comes but once a year here it is again and no it's not your birthday, it's Holocaust Remembrance time.
Why wait a year? You'll be able to display your absolute servitude to Zion, every single day before very long. The stupefied dumb-Goy (what's left of them) will wallow in it.
I think this is about their third public attempt at this lark. I suppose having an unelected, British-hating, W.E.F. immigrant as P.M. makes things a great deal easier, in achieving a Talmudic totem to their eternal victim status.
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1618233751925936128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1618233751925936128%7Ctwgr%5E4d32372c45831e2472a128dc60314fb7562ddb6c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nwemail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fnational%2F23275465.rishi-sunak-promises-legislation-build-new-holocaust-memorial-centre%2F
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To commemorate the day, I made up the following attachment.
History is never a one-sided story.
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Pope condemns Holocaust denial ahead of anniversary of International Day of Remembrance
January 25 2023
Pope Francis condemned Holocaust denial on Wednesday during a speech at the end of his weekly general audience at the Vatican, noting that Friday will be international Holocaust Remembrance Day. The Pope said a commitment towards building fraternity requires eliminating the roots of hatred and violence that fuelled the horrors of the Holocaust.
https://globalnews.ca/video/9436238/pop ... membrance/
https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-cond ... 023-01-25/
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Good ol' Franny! Just another Judas-goat. The way these commies rot everything from the inside to out is quiet a spectacle and in broad daylight, bold as brass. Are there dumb-Goy that still look up to this piece of defiling filth?
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phdnm wrote:Pope condemns Holocaust denial ahead of anniversary of International Day of Remembrance
January 25 2023
Pope Francis condemned Holocaust denial on Wednesday during a speech at the end of his weekly general audience at the Vatican, noting that Friday will be international Holocaust Remembrance Day. The Pope said a commitment towards building fraternity requires eliminating the roots of hatred and violence that fuelled the horrors of the Holocaust.
https://globalnews.ca/video/9436238/pop ... membrance/
https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-cond ... 023-01-25/
This is now CatHOLOcism
Not all Catholics are like that:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3EAKjEfRfv66/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gnFYZg7f7V8B/
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Here we have Simon Webb, big israel and jew supporter talking about Babi Yar and claiming it was a thing and he can prove it by waving a forty year old book in the camera. He has a massive blind spot when it comes to the holocaust and would hate to know anything new or interesting because it would throw huge dark shadows over his beliefs.
I made a comment which he will probably delete soon. Does anyone else want to get stuck in and comment there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep-OJ3L1Phk
I made a comment which he will probably delete soon. Does anyone else want to get stuck in and comment there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep-OJ3L1Phk
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
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borjastick wrote:Here we have Simon Webb, big israel and jew supporter talking about Babi Yar and claiming it was a thing and he can prove it by waving a forty year old book in the camera. He has a massive blind spot when it comes to the holocaust and would hate to know anything new or interesting because it would throw huge dark shadows over his beliefs.
I made a comment which he will probably delete soon. Does anyone else want to get stuck in and comment there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep-OJ3L1Phk
Proving something by 'waving a book' around?
Wouldn't a mass execution of 30.000 people not leave tons of traces, if it was real?
View it from the bright side. The White-Knights of the Holocaust will come with more and more debunkable statements over time. They may give the thing a big disservice by bashing Revisionists.
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