The Shrinking Heads?

[AxisHistory2006]

The Claim:

German authorities did not like the idea of German staff making stuff from corpses. They even wrote a memo to the department concerned. Shrunken heads are the example they gave.

How true are these claims? Any counter-evidence?

[fireofice]

I believe there is good reason to believe that the shrunken heads were planted there by the Allies. If they did that, it's not much of a stretch to think they also forged this memo. Although assuming it's real, all it shows is that the writer of this memo wanted the production of shrunken heads to stop, and therefore believed that it was happening. We don't know if this belief was accurate or based on hearsay.

[Hektor]

I believe there is good reason to believe that the shrunken heads were planted there by the Allies. If they did that, it's not much of a stretch to think they also forged this memo. Although assuming it's real, all it shows is that the writer of this memo wanted the production of shrunken heads to stop, and therefore believed that it was happening. We don't know if this belief was accurate or based on hearsay.

I'd guess that it is a forgery as well. The content says they should also tell the prisoners. Now who of the prisoners claimed they made shrunken heads? There were rumors about this, but that's it. The shrunken heads that were shown were of a special kind connected to South American cultures. More something that was loot from a museum. Not something recently manufactured in central Europe.

It was of course something that could easily be used to grasp the imagination of a captive audience. And that's exactly what the psychological warfare division was doing. (What was psychological warfare doing anyway in Buchenwald? They went there for a reason).

[Mortimer]

There has been a documentary made on the subject of the shrunken heads. If they were genuine to begin with and not fake then they came from anthropological expeditions in South America. They were not made in concentration camps.
https://codoh.com/library/document/nazi ... -heads/en/

Also check out the other CODOH documentaries.
https://codoh.com/library/categories/do ... mentaries/

[Hektor]

There has been a documentary made on the subject of the shrunken heads. If they were genuine to begin with and not fake then they came from anthropological expeditions in South America. They were not made in concentration camps.
https://codoh.com/library/document/nazi ... -heads/en/

Also check out the other CODOH documentaries.
https://codoh.com/library/categories/do ... mentaries/

That's indeed the best explanation for them.

But people are prone to let their imagination play on this. Shrunken Heads seen in a concentration camp? "Those darn Nazis must have shrunken the heads of them poor Jews". That seems to have been the intention of psychological warfare officials displaying it there.

For the gullible public it was a reason to believe in the Holocaust Myth. It's actually a reason to call foul on this, if you can think rationally.

[hermod]

The WWI version of the Allied shrunken-head propaganda lie:

https://postimg.cc/CZcK1nW5
(Jihuros = Jivaros)

P.S. From what I read in the newspapers of the 1920S and 1930s, the making of shrunken heads was a well-kept secret of the Jivaros and it's very unlikely that the Germans had the correct recipe & necessary ingredients (special Amazonian plants, etc.) to manufacture shrunken heads in the 1940s and during a world war in blockaded Europe.

[hermod]

NAZI SHRUNKEN HEADS
[DOCUMENTARY BY DEAN IREBODD | LAMPSHADES, TATTOOED SKIN, SHRUNKEN HEAD LIES]

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26 January 2011
Losing your shrunken head

The US Holocaust Memorial Museum is refusing to help track down the legendary Amazonian style Nazi Shrunken Heads, which were used as evidence at three separate trials of Nazi war criminals.

The last public appearance, of one of the heads, was Washington D.C. over 60 years ago. Since then their location is understood to be the US National Archives in Maryland, or the Museum of Health & Medicine in Washington.

One gentleman has made it his mission to find the heads and once again make them famous. He's requested US & Israeli politicians, Holocaust museums and Jewish groups in America & Israel use their influence in ensuring the shrunken heads are displayed where the public can see & learn about them.

But unsurprisingly, the Holocaust Industry prefers that their completely ridiculous lie that the German's shrank heads is forgotten.

One of the shrunken heads appeared at three separate trials of Nazi war criminals. And it made an appearance at a US subcommitte hearing into irregularities during trials of the Nazi war criminals.

Barbie Zelizer a Jewish scholar, writes in her 2001 book (pictured) of efforts to track down the shrunken head:

"Thus while researching this essay I was put in contact with Kenneth Kipperman, a private researcher and child of Holocaust survivors who for years has been searching for the shrunken head. Kipperman believes that the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's refusal to support his research is a sign of the museum's desire to sanitize the Holocaust for popular consumption."
Visual Culture and the Holocaust
By Barbie Zelizer

A December 2007 article in The Jerusalem Post on Kenneth Kipperman's efforts to put the shrunken heads in a museum:

"Horrors that have haunted him nearly all his 60 years, pictures capturing the depths of a hell known as Buchenwald's Pathology Section, cover a large pool table. The images contain decapitated human heads cut in half or shrunken... They were photographed when displayed on a table in Buchenwald just days after liberation... He's written numerous letters and placed repeated phone calls to members of Congress and the Knesset, to Holocaust museums around the US and Israel, to local, national and international Jewish organizations. "When I started doing research at the National Archives, I realized these specimens were in Washington." … His goal is to get a museum - he's hoping for either Yad Vashem or the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington - to take ownership. "If these specimens are put on display, these people, whose body parts are part of these specimens, they will live for all eternity."
http://www.jpost.com/home/article.aspx?id=57798

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[Hektor]

NAZI SHRUNKEN HEADS
[DOCUMENTARY BY DEAN IREBODD | LAMPSHADES, TATTOOED SKIN, SHRUNKEN HEAD LIES]

https://postimg.cc/sMF4Pysp

https://postimg.cc/QBhVsYJL

https://postimg.cc/LY0st9KR

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The shrunken head is the figure head of the American psychological warfare division. It must have been working some real magic for them in the beginning. But it turns out it may not have been as smart, once people start asking questions about the matter.

I wonder what is the official position of the 'Buchenwald memorial' today. If they think the shrunken head is a 'item manufactured by the Nazis from prisoners' or if it was a propaganda prop by the 'Psychological Warfare Division'.

Do people realize that they have been lied to in a vicious way?

[Fred zz]

Here is Dodd swearing in an important witness
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[hermod]

Here is Dodd swearing in an important witness
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Very funny, Fred!!

But shouldn't that star witness at the victors' show trials have replied in the Jivaro language?

[hermod]

The shrunken head is the figure head of the American psychological warfare division. It must have been working some real magic for them in the beginning. But it turns out it may not have been as smart, once people start asking questions about the matter.

I wonder what is the official position of the 'Buchenwald memorial' today. If they think the shrunken head is a 'item manufactured by the Nazis from prisoners' or if it was a propaganda prop by the 'Psychological Warfare Division'.

Do people realize that they have been lied to in a vicious way?

Most of time, they rather angrily call you a Nazi for suggesting such a thing and then they go for the theory that it was just an honest mistake on the part of the "good Allies" and that the rest of the story was true. Cognitive dissonance hurts...

[Hektor]

The shrunken head is the figure head of the American psychological warfare division. It must have been working some real magic for them in the beginning. But it turns out it may not have been as smart, once people start asking questions about the matter.

I wonder what is the official position of the 'Buchenwald memorial' today. If they think the shrunken head is a 'item manufactured by the Nazis from prisoners' or if it was a propaganda prop by the 'Psychological Warfare Division'.

Do people realize that they have been lied to in a vicious way?

Most of time, they rather angrily call you a Nazi for suggesting such a thing and then they go for the theory that it was just an honest mistake on the part of the "good Allies" and that the rest of the story was true. Cognitive dissonance hurts...

Yeah, but I guess the court historians at the Buchenwald museum will know what the problem is and that it wasn't exactly an honest mistake with the hapless shrunken head. They can't say that of course, or they will be in trouble with their employer. The storyline is vulnerable on many levels, though. What keeps it together is consensus. A consensus that it anchored in politics, academia and civil society and it is on the causal side of all the policy mistakes they are making. It will come out at some stage, one only can wonder when that will be.

The advantage of the punctual problems with the Western Camps is that technically that isn't "Holocaust Denial" one can focus on single issues without disputing the bigger narrative. Just pointing out that there are problems with what's presented as evidence. And that's perhaps a feasible strategy to point out the deception committed. It should be an issue for those that think they 'know about history'.

[hermod]

Yeah, but I guess the court historians at the Buchenwald museum will know what the problem is and that it wasn't exactly an honest mistake with the hapless shrunken head. They can't say that of course, or they will be in trouble with their employer. The storyline is vulnerable on many levels, though. What keeps it together is consensus. A consensus that it anchored in politics, academia and civil society and it is on the causal side of all the policy mistakes they are making. It will come out at some stage, one only can wonder when that will be.

I suppose that we can safely assume the court historians at the Buchenwald museum have now finally removed the long-hair-and-mustache shrunken head they used to display there.

https://postimg.cc/G8Q1t7tS

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[Hektor]

Yeah, ....they are making. It will come out at some stage, one only can wonder when that will be.

I suppose that we can safely assume the court historians at the Buchenwald museum have now finally removed the long-hair-and-mustache shrunken head they used to display there.
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Can imagine taping them, while questioning them about those items could be great fun. The problem is that those stories are so outrageous and preposterous, it's difficult to remain seriously in face and voice with this.

Hair-growing shrunken head could be really funny. There is an advantage in this as well. And that's that the nature of the subject packed in a little video is likely to draw some attention with people. It will go through a not so captive audience as well. But in the end it is important to reach those that form opinions inside their social groups.

[hermod]

Can imagine taping them, while questioning them about those items could be great fun. The problem is that those stories are so outrageous and preposterous, it's difficult to remain seriously in face and voice with this.

Hair-growing shrunken head could be really funny. There is an advantage in this as well. And that's that the nature of the subject packed in a little video is likely to draw some attention with people. It will go through a not so captive audience as well. But in the end it is important to reach those that form opinions inside their social groups.

Good idea. Could be great fun and useful material to reach new audiences.