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The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby Drew J » 1 decade 3 years ago (Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:10 pm)

This topic will have several posts so if you are reading just the first or the first and second post, there will be more coming. I'm new and the mods have to approve my posts first so please be patient. In the meantime, here is a primary source document which I am using to set the stage for my overall thesis.

The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!

By Martin H. Glynn – The American Hebrew page 582, October 31, 1919

Martin H. Glynn, Former Governor of the State of N.Y.

From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help, and eight hundred thousand little children cry for bread.

These children, these men and women are our fellow-members of the human family, with the same claim on life as we, the same susceptibility to the winter's cold, the same propensity to death before the fangs of hunger. Within them reside the illimitable possibilities for the advancement of the human race as naturally would reside in six million human beings. We may not be their keepers but we ought to be their helpers.

In the face of death, in the throes of starvation there is no place for mental distinctions of creed, no place for physical differentiations of race. In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand.

Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life; eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, through no transgression of the laws of God or man; but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood.

In this threatened holocaust of human life, forgotten are the niceties of philosophical distinction, forgotten are the differences of historical interpretation; and the determination to help the helpless, to shelter the homeless, to clothe the naked and to feed the hungry becomes a religion at whose altar men of every race can worship and women of every creed can kneel. In this calamity the temporalities of man's fashionings fall away before the eternal verities of life, and we awaken to the fact that from the hands of one God we all come and before the tribunal of one God we all must stand on the day of final reckoning. And when that reckoning comes mere profession of lips will not weigh a pennyweight; but deeds, mere intangible deeds, deeds that dry the tear of sorrow and allay the pain of anguish, deeds that with the spirit of the Good Samaritan pour oil and wine in wounds and find sustenance and shelter for the suffering and the stricken, will outweigh all the stars in the heavens, all the waters in the seas, all the rocks and metals in all the celestian globes that revolve in the firmament around us.

Race is a matter of accident; creed, partly a matter of inheritance, partly a matter of environment, partly one's method of ratiocination; but our physical wants and corporeal needs are implanted in all of us by the hand of God, and the man or woman who can, and will not, hear the cry of the starving; who can, and will not, take heed of the wail of the dying; who can, and will not, stretch forth a helping hand to those who sink beneath the waves of adversity is an assassin of nature's finest instincts, a traitor to the cause of the human family and an abjurer of the natural law written upon the tablets of every human heart by the finger of God himself.

And so in the spirit that turned the poor widow's votive offering of copper into silver, and the silver into gold when placed upon God's altar, the people of this country are called upon to sanctify their money by giving $35,000,000 in the name of the humanity of Moses to six million famished men and women.

Six million men and women are dying -- eight hundred thousand little children are crying for bread.

And why?

Because of a war to lay Autocracy in the dust and give Democracy the sceptre of the Just.

And in that war for democracy 200,000 Jewish lads from the United States fought beneath the Stars and Stripes. In the 77th Division alone there were 14,000 of them, and in Argonne Forest this division captured 54 German guns. This shows that at Argonne the Jewish boys from the United States fought for democracy as Joshua fought against the Amalekites on the plains of Abraham. In an address on the so-called "Lost Battalion," led by Colonel Whittlesey of Pittsfield, Major-General Alexander shows the fighting stuff these Jewish boys were made of. In some way or another Whittlesey's command was surrounded. They were short of rations. They tried to get word back to the rear telling of their plight. They tried and they tried, but their men never got through. Paralysis and stupefaction and despair were in the air. And when the hour was darkest and all seemed lost, a soldier lad stepped forward, and said to Col. Whittlesey: "I will try to get through." He tried, he was wounded, he had to creep and crawl, but he got through. To-day he wears the Distinguished Service Cross and his name is Abraham Krotoshansky.

Because of this war for Democracy six million Jewsh men and women are starving across the seas; eight hundred thousand Jewish babies are crying for bread.

(Continued from page 582)

In the name of Abraham Krotoshinsky who saved the "Lost Battalion," in the name of the one hundred and ninety-nine thousand and nine hundred and ninety-nine other Jewish boys who fought for Democracy beneath the Stars and Stripes won't you give copper, or silver, or gold, to keep life in the heart of these men and these women; to keep blood in the bodies of these babies?

The Jew Has Helped Everybody But The Jew.

In the world war the Jew has helped everybody but the Jew. "Over there" he helped in camp, in council and in conflict. "Over here" he helped the Red Cross, the Y.M.C.A., the Knights of Columbus, the Masons, the Salvation Army and everybody else. So now is the time for everybody to help the Jew, and God knows now is the time he needs it.

From out of the gloom of this war every other race, save one or two, has snatched a ray of sunshine. But amid the encircling gloom there is no light for the Jew "to lead thou me on." The war is over for everyone, but the Jew. The knife is still at his throat and an unreasoning and unreasonable century-old lust for Jewish blood opens his veins. The Jew in Roumania, Poland and Ukrainia is being made the scapegoat of the war. Since the armistice has been signed thousands of Jews in Ukrainia has been offered up as living sacrifices to diabolical greed and fanatical passion -- their throats cut, their bodies rended limb from limb by assassin bands and rabid soldiery. In the city of Proskunoff one day a few weeks ago the dawn saw the door of every house wherein lived a Jew marked as a shambles for slaughter. For four days, from sunrise to sunset, fanatics plied the dagger like demons from hell, stopping only to teat with hands adrip with the blood of Jewish victims. They killed the men; they were less merciful to women. These they violated, and then they killed. From a purpose to a fury, from a fury to a habit ran this killing of the Jews, until within four days the streets of Proskunoff ran red with blood like gutters of a slaughter house, until its homes became a morgue for thousands of slaughtered human deings whose gaping wounds cried out for vengeance and whose eyes had turned to stone at the horrors they had seen. As Hon. Simon W. Rosendale, aptly paraphrasing Bobby Burns' thought, in his speech not long ago, said it is the age-old story of "man's inhumanity to man that makes countless thousands mourn." For as it has been at Proskunoff, so has it been in a hundred other places. The bloody tale hath repetition ad nauseum. It is the same tear-stained story -- the same old stain upon the escutcheon of humanity. Verily, Byron was right when he wrote:

Tribes of the wandering feet and weary breast
Whither shall ye flee to be at rest?
The wild dove hath her nest, the fox his cave,
Mankind their countries, Israel but the grave.

But Israel is entitled to a place in the sun, and the crucifixion of Jews must stop. We repeat the war is over for everybody, but the Jew. Like Isaac the knife is at his throat, but unlike Isaac no power seems able to stop the steel from thirsting for his blood. But some power the world must raise up to prevent this decimation of a deserving race. For the peace of the world a League of Nations let us have by all means; but for the Humanity of the World, to give justice to the Jew and other oppressed peoples on earth, let us have a Truce of God! -- Albany Times Union.

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The New York Public Library holds a microfilm of the above manuscript. A researcher printed out the images from that microfilm and subequently converted them to jpg format.

An enlarged photocopy of this material is available here.

We know there were camps constructed and that jews were interred in them, but we also know thanks to the brave work of people like Zundel and chemist Germar Rudolph that gas chambers certainly did not exist. Especially in Auschwitz. The movie ONE THIRD OF THE HOLOCAUST is four hours long and it rips hole after hole in Raul Hilberg's DESCTRUCTION OF THE EUROPEAN JEWS. We also know that many of the so called death camps such as Treblinka were not death camps. Treblinka was excavated for mass graves and all that was found from soil samples was the the soil had been undisturbed for too many decades.

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby ASMarques » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:43 pm)

Why 6 million?

The short reply: it's the appropriate cabalistic figure.

In spite of all the unbelievable fluctuations, the magical figure of 6 million is kept as if it didn't depend on any detailed study or any final sum of known partial figures. Its religious character should be understood, once one notes that there is absolutely no global statistic or detailed study behind its permanent untouchable status. One can only attribute a symbolic anti-historic character to the 6 million dead and the 6 "extermination camps." The reason for the number has everything to do with the religion of the 6-pointed star and the 6-day creation, and its traditional propensity for numerical cabalism, and nothing at all with any objective investigation.

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby Drew J » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:39 pm)

I agree, but I wish to post a lot more resources on here for further reading and also put a lot of documentation in so that nay sayers can't just write it off as anti semites who don't know a damn thing about esoteric Judaic law.



At this time, I also feel it appropriate to reproduce excerpts from a pamphlet whose author has long since died.

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Austin App. Author of THE SIX MILLION SWINDLE.
Published December 15, 1973.
43 pages.

Pages 4-5
Half Million Survivors of Concentration Camps in Israel

Over and over, we hear Communists, Talmudists and brainwashed liberals declare pontifically that the Nazis had orders to execute all Jews. Yet the same article in the International Tribune (June 11, 1973), which is published by the Jewish New York Times and the Washington Post, goes on to remark, "About 500,000 of Israel's 2.6 million Jews had been in a Nazi concentration camp. But if half a million Jews now in Israel survived Nazi concentration camps, then the Nazis evidently had no orders to "gas" them! Obviously, then, Hitler and the Third Reich had no plan or desire to exterminate all the Jews. They had plenty of time to have executed these 500,000!


Pages 8-9
Statistics on Jews Who Disappeared in Red-controlled Areas

In "Stalin's Macabre 'Relocation Plan'" (Human Events, Oct. 6, 1973), John Boland cites how the Bolsheviks murdered 4,143 Polish prisoners of war at Katyn and packed another ten thousand in barges and sank them in the White Sea. He then reports!

Now there is evidence that thousands of Soviet Jews were similarly 'eliminated' on orders from Stalin. The exact number cannot be ascertained, because the victims were allegedly loaded in boxcars and rolled over a cliff into Russia's huge Siberian freshwater lake - Lake Baikal...the forcible deportation of all Soviet Jews ro the 'Jewish Soviet Republic' of Birobidjan ended for many of them in being pushed over the cliff into the lake.

In this way, writes Boland, "the jews could be liquidated without the trouble of building crematoria as Hitler did in Germany to solve his 'Jewish problem.'" (Incidentally, it is a defamatory cliche that Hitler built crematoria to dispose of murdered Jews; he built them to dispose of corpses in general, including especially those resulting from Allied air raids!)

Confirming Human Events, Rabbi Benjamin Schultz, chairman of the Jewish League (so Die Welt of Hamburg of September 25, 1954), declared before out Congress that during the Second World War, 3,390,000 Jews on Soviet territory disappeared without a trace. He maintained that this massacre had been purposely kept secret so as not to embarrass the Soviet Union.

German historian Enrich Kern, after research on Rabbi Shultz's startling statement, concludes that, even if this figure is a bit too high:

However, in any case, it is certain that about twice as many Jews were done to death in territory controlled by Soviet Russia than in that controlled by Germans.
(See: Deutsche Wochenzeitung, January 13, 1967)

What can be more to the advantage of the Bolsheviks than to have got rid of a few million troublesome Jews and to waltz the blame off on the Germans! And what could be more to the advantage of Israel and World Jewry than to blame the Germans, who could be blackmailed into astronomical reparations, for the Jews who disappeared in Russia from which absolutely no indemnities could be blackmailed!


Page 14
Statistics of Jews Spared by the Nazis

Here are some figures of Jews who turned up from German occupied lands after the war. Every one proves that Hitler had not ordered him exterminated. The New York Times (March 26, 1950) reports that in March of that year, 23,000 Jews had left Hungary:

...that 224,000 Jews had emigrated from the 'people's democracies' and from Yugoslavia, leaving 600,000 whom the Israeli government is still eager to have in Palestine.

The Times writes of 150,000 still left in Hungary, of 30,000 having emigrated from Czechoslovakia, leaving 15,000 there; of 30,000 having left Rumania, leaving 380,000 there; of 85,000 having left Poland, "leaving 50,00 registered as members of the Jewish community. It is believed that some thousands of others are unregistered." The [u]Times writes that "...from Bulgaria 42,000 have emigrated, leaving only 4,000 or 5,000; from Yugoslavia 10,000 have emigrated."


Page 14-15
The Third Reich Had Five Years To "Gas" These Jewish "Refugees" But Didn't.

Had Hitler intended to exterminate all Jews he had five years' time to "gas" all 824,000 Balkan Jews, who, according to the (March 26, 1950) New York Times, "...swarmed into the Western zones of Germany, between 1945 and 1947." And even higher percentages were very much alive in 1945 in France, Belgium, Holland, and Norway. One Rabbi Phillip S. Bernstein, advisor of Jewish affairs to the United States Army commanders in Germany and Austria wrote:

...the only realistic solution to the plight of Europe's 250,000 Jewish refugees in resettlement in the United States and Palestine."
(Washington Post, October 24, 1947)

That may explain why since 1945 New York is a Jewish Sodom and Gomorrah and Washington, D.C., a half Jewish and half Negro employment agency!
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If the Nazis had intended to kill as many Jews as possible, then not a single one of the 824,000 Balkan and Polish Jews would have been alive by May 1945.


Page 22
A Priori Case Against Six Million Figure

After I had several times begged Time not to keep repeating the fraudulent six million figure, it answered evasively:

The six million figure which we quoted, as I mentioned in a previous letter, is one that is usually accepted by all government sources, on the basis of a number of affidavits similar to that of Dr. Wilhelm Hoettle (sic) which I quoted to you in my earlier letter.
(July 27, 1949)

The fact that the only evidence Time and Jewish sources can present for the six million figure is an affidavit by Hoettl and some even less authentic ones should alone suffice to discredit the figure...If pressed for evidence, they base themselves on what noe Hoettl said from hearsay about Eichmann, and what similarly one Rudolf Hess thought he remembered Eichmann as saying.


Page 23-24
What About The Hoettl, Hoess, and Eichmann Testimony?

The only evidence that Talmudists and their stooges ever pretend to offer for the six million figure is what Hoettl and Hoess, under threat of their lives, claimed to have heard Eichmann one time say. Dr. Wilhelm Hoettl was a colonel in the security services, not a very high rank, a subordinate of Eichmann's, who himself said, "I was merely a cog in the machinery." Hoettel himself claims to have been a British agent sometime during the war. The London paper Weekend (January 25, 1963) confirms this. It also reveals that when Hoettl gave his affidavit he had been threatened with delivery to the Hungarian Communists. This must be interpreted as a promise of immunity if he gave sufficient damning testimony against his superior, Eichmann, but hanging if he didn't.

According to the British at Flensburg, he declared he had one time heard Eichmann say that four million Jews died in concentration camps and another two million elsewhere as reprisals and so on. He was then rushed to the Nuremburg Trials, where he dutifully repeated his hearsay. But oddly enough, theough the German attorney for the Defense, one Dr. Kaufmann, repeatedly requested that he be called for cross-examination, the Nuremburg lynchers did not dare expose this key evidence to cross-examination. Again, at the Eichmann trial in Jerusalem the legal lynchers were afraid to expose him to cross-examination. And during the same trial Eichmann insisted that Hoettl had twised his casual remark and that he had in fact never named figures to Hoettel because he could not know such figures. (See: Heinrich Haertl, Freispruch fuer Deutschland, Goettingen, 1965, p. 190-01).

Here in lies the truth of the matter. Neither Eichmann nor Hoettl could know the figures. And Hoettl got immunity for what was almost certainly a perjured affidavit. Yet on it rests almost the whole myth of the six million. The only other testimony advanced is that of Rudolf Hess. He was for awhile commander at Auschwitz. Again, threatened with the noose of he did not incriminate his superiors, he testified at Nuremburg that two and a half million Jews died there. Even Gerald Reitlinger accuses Hoess of "perverse magalomania" for this figure. To show how unreliable poor freightened Hoess had been, when he later was delivered to the Poles he reduced the two and one half million to only 1.13 million. The Poles thereupon irately hanged him! Eichmann himself declared:

Since the war I read that 2,500,000 Jews were physically liquidated under Hoess' command. I find this figure incredible. The capacity of the camp argues against it. Many of the Jews confied there were put to work details and survived. After the war the Auschwitzers sprouted like mushrooms out of the forest floor after a rain. Hundreds of thousands of them are today in the best of health."
(See:Life Magazine, November 28, 1960)
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To show the guess work and the shameful unreliability involved, Time Magazine (June 6 1960) reported Eichmann said, "Five Million Jews"; the Jewish Newsweek, however (June 6 1960), hiked the figure to "six million Jews." That is how Jewish throw a million Jews around - when it serves their blackmail!


Page 25
Not Hoettl, Not Hoess, Not Eichmann Could or Did Attest the 6 Million Figure

Essentially, on this off-the-cuff remark of Eichmann's, never properly probed, the whole swindle of the six million rests. Be it noted first that Eichmann said five million, not six; secondly, he referred to "Enemies of the Reich"; not Jews; thirdly, he was at the time talking casually, not professionally, and authoritatively. Furthermore, he said far more officially, "I would like to stress again, however, that my department never gave a single annihilation order. We were responsible only for deportation..." Eichmann ordered no Jews killed, nor anyone else...In short, Eichmann could not in any way know the number of Jewish casualties, and Hoettl and Hoess did not pretend to know but, under extoration to incrinimate Eichmann, attributed conflicting words to him!


Page 25-26
How Affidavits were Extorted and Perjury Encouraged

Affidavits, like those to which Time refers, are unreliable, often outright frauds, like the figure of six million itself. With a few heroic exceptions, all affidavits by Jews are in part or whole perjured, often well rewarded, and altogether unreliable. Affidavits from Germans, including from former Nazis, were rather customarily obtained by threatening the witness with hanging if he did not incriminate his superior sufficiently for hanging.

After Simon Wiesenthal, one of the best known prosecutors and persecutors of Germans is Dr. Robert Kempner, who seems to exploit dual American and German citizenship...After the war, he turned up as a prosecutor of Germans at Nuremburg, a particularly unscrupulous one, who is still at it. His nasty method of extorting incriminating affidavits against the more important Nazi leaders is illustrated in the case of Dr. Friedrich Gaus, many years a minor official in the German foreign office. Dr. Kempner wanted him to testify falsely in order to get his superior Ribbentrop hanged. When Gaus complained that he could not honestly to testify, Kempner replied:

The Russians are very interested in you, Mr. Gaus! For your violation of International Agreements! The only way for you to save your head, is that you tell the truth. Or do you wish as the right hand of Ribbentrop to go to the gallows? You know the old German saying, 'Captured with him, hanged with him!' Who were after Ribbentrop, the most guilty in the Foreign Office. Just say it; it serves no purpose, to spare these people.

Whereupon the terrified Gaus incriminated Ribbentrop as Kempner wished; - and thereby secured immunity! He was immediatly released from solitary arrest and moved to the witness portion of the Nuremburg court. (See: "U.S. Anklaeger Kempner schwer belasted." Deutsche Wochenzeitung Fed. 23, 1973).


Page 30
Conclusions of a Jewish Scholar Who Was Persecuted Therefore

In Josef G. Burg's book, Suendenboecke - Scapegoats, he insists that "Endloesung - Final Solution" envisaged the emigration of Jews, not the "total liquidation of all Jews." (p. 74). More impotantly, he investigated the six million statistic thoroughly and honestly. He found it "a legend poisoning peaceful relations." (p. 238). He comes to the conclusion that, even giving atrocity-mongers maximum rather than minimum figures, the highest "number of Jews that died in the control of Hitler were killed, lost their lives, or died could be no more than 3,323,000." (p.237).

Here, an honest Jewish researcher slices almost three million from the six million swindle. And the three million lost include those who died naturally, were killed by Allied air raids, were executed as subversives and partisans, of whom one and a half million were fighting illegally against the Germans (p.238).

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby Drew J » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:41 pm)

http://100777.com/node/855
DAVID COLE'S AUSCHWITZ VIDEO.

In a dramatic and unprecedented videotaped interview, Dr. Franciszek Piper, senior curator and director of archives of the Auschwitz State Museum admitted on camera that 'Krema 1,' the alleged 'homicidal gas chamber' shown off to hundreds of thousands of tourists every year at the Auschwitz main camp, was, in fact, fabricated after the war by the Soviet Union -apparently on the direct orders of Josef Stalin.

With this admission by none other than the respected head of the Auschwitz State Museum, one of the most sacred 'facts' of history has been destroyed. This 'gas chamber' is the major historical 'fact' on which much of the foreign and domestic policies of all Western nations since WWII are based. It is the basis for the $100+ billion in foreign aid the United States has poured into the (Jewish) state in Israel since its inception in 1948

The Cole videotape interview proves that the people who run the Auschwitz State Museum had made a practice of fabricating 'proofs' of homicidal gassings. Keep in mind that over the years millions of tourists have been told that 'Krema 1' is in its original state, while officials knew that 'original state' is a lie.


Forty-Six Important Unanswered Questions Regarding the Nazi Gas Chambers
By David Cole
http://www.codoh.com/gcgv/gc46-origi.html

David Cole had his life threatened by the JDL. On the internet they posted a message asking for his name and address.
http://www.codoh.com/censor/censtraitor.html
He was forced to recant to protect himself and his family.
http://www.geniebusters.org/915/04h_Cole.html


1948 - Allies Found That No Camp Inmates Were Gassed
Circular Letter No. 31/48 Vienna,
1 Oct. 1948 10th dispatch
12-9-5
http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/29lachout.html


The Chemical & Toxicological Impossibility Of The Auschwitz Gas Chamber Legend
Commentary - By Paul Grubach - March 03, 06
http://www.venusproject.com/ethics_in_a ... hwitz.html


There is an author called Andrew Mathis who repeatidly has had his rear end handed to him in debates at the codoh board.
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?p=28011#28011

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby Drew J » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:46 pm)

Now let's talk about the second world war. It was claimed that six million Jews died and that four million of them died in Auschwitz gas chambers in Poland.
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Now in the late eighties and early nineties, Dr Piper (Jew) director of the Auschwitz museum did some revisionist work of his own and he said that four million was too much. His work and the work of other revisonists brought the total dead way down to about one million. Despite this, people still cling to the six million number.
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Dr. Piper is an interesting man. He was captured on tape by Jewish revisoinist David Cole, who for his revisionist work and Auschwitz video had his life threatened by the Jewish Defense League.

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Auschwitz Museum Director Reveals 'Gas Chamber' Hoax

In a dramatic and unprecedented videotaped interview, Dr. Franciszek Piper, senior curator and director of archives of the Auschwitz State Museum admitted on camera that 'Krema 1,' the alleged 'homicidal gas chamber' shown off to hundreds of thousands of tourists every year at the Auschwitz main camp, was, in fact, fabricated after the war by the Soviet Union -apparently on the direct orders of Josef Stalin. What Piper said - in effect and on camera - was that the explosive 1988 Leuchter Report was correct: no homicidal gassings took place in the buildings designated as 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz. With this admission by none other than the respected head of the Auschwitz State Museum, one of the most sacred 'facts' of history has been destroyed. This 'gas chamber' is the major historical 'fact' on which much of the foreign and domestic policies of all Western nations since WWII are based.
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It is the basis for the $10 billion 'loan' (read 'gift') made to Israel for housing its immigrants in the occupied territories...while Americans sleep on the streets and businesses are bankrupted by the thousands. (Note - As of 2004, not a single 'loan' of US tax money made to the (Jewish) state in Israel by Washington has ever been paid back. -ed) Germany is paying 'reparations' - the the United States is making major contributions - to atone for the 'gassings at Auschwitz' and elsewhere. If the 'homicidal gas chambers' were postwar creations of the Soviets, in which no one was gassed regardless of race, creed, color or country of national origin, then these 'reparations' were unnecessary, and were based on fraud. The videotape on which Dr. Piper makes his revelations was made in mid-1992 by a young Jewish investigator, David Cole and follows 12 years of intensive investigation by dozens of historians, journalists and scientists who have tried to get to the bottom of what really happened at Auschwitz. Like most Americans, since his youth, Cole had been instructed in the 'irrefutable fact' that mass homicidal gassings had taken place at Auschwitz. The number of those executed - also declared irrefutable - was 4.1 million. Then came the Leuchter Report in 1988 which was followed with an official 're-evaluation' of the total deaths at Auschwitz (down to 1.1 million). As a budding historian - and a Jew - Cole was intrigued. Previous to 1992, anyone who publicly doubted or questioned the official 4.1 millon 'gassing' deaths at Auschwitz was labeled an anti-semite, neo-nazi skinhead at the very least. Quietly, because of revisionist findings, the official figure was lowered to 1.1 million. No mention was made of the missing 3 million. The Cole videotape interview proves that the people who run the Auschwitz State Museum had made a practice of fabricating 'proofs' of homicidal gassings. Keep in mind that over the years millions of tourists have been told that 'Krema 1' is in its original state, while officials knew that 'original state' is a lie.


David Cole's Auschwitz video can be watched here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXKHw0EZrqM

Three must read books on the holocaust exaggeration.

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http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth

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http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/thottc/

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http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/falsenews.toc.html
In this book at the first Ernst Zundel false news trial in Toronto in 1985, please note the testimony of his jewish revisionist friend Joseph Burg. He said that many religious Jews viewed Gentile courts as invalid and thus did not feel bound by their oath to tell the truth. Zundel reported on one of his tv broadcasts that Burg said that if many Jews claiming such and such about the second world war would be made to take an oath with a rabbi present, ninety nine percent of the lying would stop. Burg too found no evidence of gas chambers and proved in his non English books that the six million number was impossible. As for Jews thinking they have a religious duty and right to circumvent Gentiles, look into Michael A Hoffman's work on Kol Nidre and the absolution of vows in Juadism Discovered. Or simply check it out here with the relevant excerpts reproduced.

"All vows, oaths, promises, engagements, and swearing, which, beginning this very day of reconciliation, we intend to vow, promise, swear, and bind ourselves to fulfill, we repent of beforehand; let them be illegalized, acquitted, annihilated, abolished, valueless, unimportant. Our vows shall be no vows, and our oaths no oaths at all. (Schulchan Aruch, Edit. 1, 136)." Schulchan Aruch, Edit. 1, 136. This is not from the Talmud. This is actually a garbled version of the Kon Nidre prayer. The reference to "Edit. 1, 136" is completely meaningless. [The Kon Nidre prayer, from the 8th century CE, did not release anyone from a judicial oath or obligation between people. It was intended to release a Jew from a vow made to God, specifically those made under duress to accept another faith.]

This is the famous Kol Nidre prayer which is recited in Jewish synagogues on the day of attonement. It's funny how the Talmud admits there is no biblical mandate for it. In the first footnote of Nedarim 23 in the English Soncino version it says this:

Though the beginning of the year (New Year) is mentioned here, the Day of Atonement was probably chosen on account of its great solemnity. But Kol Nidre as part of the ritual is later than the Talmud

http://www.come-and-hear.com/nedarim/nedarim_23.html

So first comes the bible. Then comes the Talmud. Then comes Kol Nidre. Get the point? No biblical mandate for the Kol Nidre prayer. Furthermore, Michael Hoffman was kind enough to give a quotation admitting this.

"The absolution of vows hovers in the air, for it has nothing [in the Torah] upon which to depend." - Mishnah Hagigah 1:8 (a)

Hoffman also gives us a Maimonides quote:

"Maimonides wrote: (Mishneh Torah, Sefer Haflaah, Hilkhot Shevout 6:2): '[The absolution from oaths] has no basis whatsoever in the Written Torah.'"

And Judaics, by reciting the Kol Nidre think that their religion is actually that of the Old Testament and not of the Talmud or that the Talmud and the bible never contradict each other. :rolleyes:

Now what is the actual Kol Nidre prayer in full:

"All vows, obligations, oaths or anathemas, pledges of all names, which we have vowed, sworn, devoted, or bound ourselves to, from this day of atonement, until the next day of atonement (whose arrival we hope for in happiness) we repent, aforehand, of them all, they shall all be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, void and made of no effect; they shall not be binding, nor have any power; the vows shall not be reckoned as vows, the obligations shall not be obligatory, nor the oaths considered as oaths."

Now some have said, this is not for a contract between humans. God would never approve of breaking vows between humans. Not even Gentiles. Let's look at Nedarim 23b.

http://www.come-and-hear.com/nedarim/nedarim_23.html
And he who desires that none of his vows made during the year shall be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null.1 [HIS VOWS ARE THEN INVALID,]

And the first footnote reads:
This may have provided a support for the custom of reciting Kol Nidre (a formula for dispensation of vows) prior to the Evening Service of the Day of Atonement (Ran.). The context makes it perfectly obvious that only vows, where the maker abjures benefit from aught. or imposes an interdict of his own property upon his neighbour, are referred to. V. J.E. s.v. Kol Nidre. Though the beginning of the year (New Year) is mentioned here, the Day of Atonement was probably chosen on account of its great solemnity. But Kol Nidre as part of the ritual is later than the Talmud, and, as seen from the following statement about R. Huna h. Hinena, the law of revocation in advance was not made public.


Benjamin Freedman provided us with some interesting quotes from JEWISH SOURCES.
The greatest study of the "Kol Nidre" (all Vows) prayer was made by the eminent psycho-analyst Professor Theodor Reik, the celebrated pupil of the famous Dr. Sigmund Freud. The analysis of the historic, religious and psychological background of the "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer by Professor Reik presents the Talmud in its true perspective. This important study is contained in Professor Reik's "The Ritual, Psycho-Analytical Studies". In the chapter on the Talmud, on page 168, Professor Reik states:

"THE TEXT WAS TO THE EFFECT THAT ALL OATHS WHICH BELIEVERS TAKE BETWEEN ONE DAY OF ATONEMENT AND THE NEXT DAY OF ATONEMENT ARE DECLARED INVALID." (emphasis added)

Before explaining to you how the present wording of the "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer was introduced into the Day of Atonement synagogue ceremonies, my dear Dr. Goldstein, I would like to quote a passage to you from the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia. The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia confirms the fact that the "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer has no spiritual value as might be believed because it is recited in synagogues on the Day of Atonement as the prologue of the religious ceremonies which follow it. The secular significance of the "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer is indicated forcefully by the analysis in the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia. In Volume VI, on page 441, it states:

"The Kol Nidre HAS NOTHING WHATEVER TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL IDEA OF THE DAY OF ATONE- MENT...it attained to extraordinary solemnity and popularity by reason of the fact that it was THE FIRST PRAYER RECITED ON THIS HOLIEST OF DAYS."

http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm

Further down we read:
I would like to quote here another short passage from the Jewish Encyclopedia. In analyzing the course of history which resulted in the present wording of the "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer the Jewish Encyclopedia in Volume VII, on page 540, states:

"AN IMPORTANT ALTERATION IN THE WORDING of the `Kol Nidre' was made by Rashi's son-in-law, Meir ben Samuel, WHO CHANGED THE ORIGINAL PHRASE `FROM THE LAST DAY OF ATONEMENT TO THIS ONE' to `FROM THIS DAY OF ATONEMENT UNTIL THE NEXT' ". (emphasis supplied)

You will agree, my dear Dr. Goldstein, that Meir ben Samuel knew what he was doing. The wording of that altered version of the "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer makes the recital of the prayer a release during the coming year from any obligations to respect any oath, vow or pledge during the coming year. Like any one-year license obtained from the Federal, State or Municipal governments, the altered version of the "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer extends immunity in advance for one year from all obligations to observe the terms of oaths, vows and pledges made in the year following the date of the Day of Atonement when the prayer was recited. Each year however it becomes necessary to renew this "license" which automatically revokes in advance any oath, vow or pledge made during the next twelve months, by again appearing in a synagogue on the next Day of Atonement and reciting the "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer again. Do you approve of this?

The passage in the Talmud referring to "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer certifies to several serious situations. It certifies that "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer was added as a prologue to the Day of Atonement religious services long after the completion of the Talmud between 500 A.D. - 1000 A.D. by the statement, "as part of the ritual is later than the Talmud." It confirms that Meir ben Samuel who authored the present altered version of the "Kol Nidre" (All Vows) prayer lived in the 11th century. Furthermore, the so- called or self-styled "Jews" in eastern Europe believed it served their purpose better to keep secret from their Christian conquerors their attitude on oaths, vows and pledges, "the law of revocation in advance was not made public."


From Judaism's Strange Gods:
The reader will note that the Talmud declares that the action nullifying vows is to be taken at the beginning of the year and with regard to promises made in the future. This distinction is critical since it contradicts what the deceivers claim is a humble, penitential rite of begging forgiveness for promises broken in the past, rather than what it is, a nullification made in advance for vows and oaths yet to be made (and deliberately broken with impunity). This "advance stipulation" is called bitul tenai and it is the basis for a Judaic being absolved in advance of breaking promises that he will make in the future, or to use the rabbinic lawyers jargon: "declaration of intent for the anticipatory invalidation of future vows."


Now despite the word change, people can always argue that it's not a license for a Jew to break a vow with a human, Jew or Gentile and that oaths are taken very seriously. It's a Jew saying to God, "hey, I'm asking for forgiveness for what I may do in the future as opposed to Catholics who ask for forgiveness after things they have done." But that's just not so as Michael Hoffman shows in his newest book. He even recounts a case where a Jew went to the Sanhedrin and they absolved him of his vow that he made with another person.

Not only is there the Nedarim 23 verse, but there is another Nedarim verse which pretty much proves that yes, this includes vows between humans and it's not just for things between Jews and God.

Mishnah Nedarim 3:1

He who desires that none of his vows made during the year shall be valid, let him stand at Rosh haShanah and declare, "Every vow which I may make in the future shall be cancelled," provided that he remembers [the stipulation] at the time of the vow.


Hoffman also quotes from Alexander McCaul who has himself Talmud quotations. Hoffman was kind enough to give large photographic representations of the Hebrew passage in question. Here they are.


"...Here it is plainly taught, that if a man has reason to fear any personal inconvenience, or even if he changes his mind, he may escape from the most solemn obligation that can be laid upon the consciences of men; and that, after appealing to God in confirmation of his declaration to do or to leave undone some particular action, one or more of his fellow sinners can remit his duty to his Creator, and give him a license to do the very contrary of that which he had promised before and unto God, that he would do."
- Hilchoth Sh'vouth, c. vi. 1,2.

Here is yet another quote from NEDARIM.

"He that has a vow upon him, with respect to profit from his neighbour, is not to be absolved, except in that neighbour's presence. How is this proved? Rav Nachman says, it is proved by the words, 'And the Lord said unto Moses, in Midian, Go return into Egypt; for all the men are dead which sought thy life;' he said to him, In Midian thou hast vowed, go and get absolution from thy vow in Midian, for it is written, 'And Moses was content.' (Exodus 2:21). Now this word means nothing else but swearing, as it is written, 'And he took an oath of him.' (Ezek. 17:13) It is further proved by the words, 'And he also rebelled against King Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God.' (2 Chron. 36:13). What was the nature of his rebellion? Zedekiah found Nebuchadnezzar eating a live rabbit, whereupon Nebuchadnezzar said to him, Swear to me not to reveal this, nor to report the matter. Zedekiah swore, but afterwards he was grieved, and went and got his oath absolved and told. Nebuchadnezzar heard that they despised him, and sent and fetched the Sanhedrin and Zedekiah and said to them, Ye see what Zedekiah has done, although he swore by the name of God not to reveal the matter. They said to him, He got a dispensation from his oath. He said, Is it lawful, then, you get dispensation from an oath? They said, Yes. He said again, Is this to be done in the other's presence of absence? They say, In his presence...(Nedarim, fol. lxv. 1.)."

Alexander McCaul's comment after that long quotation. Michael Hoffman's footnote follows.


This passage not only illustrates that doctrine of dispensation, but throws much light upon the character and knowledge of the men from whom the tradition is derived. In the first place, it shows a strange confusion of mind to derive, 'he was willing,' from 'he sware'; but it is stranger still, out of this mistranslation; but the most strange of all is, that anyone should be found who can believe this is a sufficient warrant for the doctrine of dispensation from an oath made to a fellow creature. If even it were true, as the rabbis say, that Moses had sworn to Jethro not to return into Egypt, still this is not a case in point; for Moses did not get absolution from any third person, but received express permission from Jethro himself to return, as we find in the chapter referred to, where it is said, 'And Moses went and returned to Jethro, his father in law, and said unto him, Let me go, I pray thee, and return unto my brethren which are in Egypt, and see whether they be yet alive. And Jethro said to Moses, 'Go in peace. (Exod 4.18) If there was any oath, we see that it was dispensed with not by a wise man, nor by any third eprson or persons, but by him to whom the oath was made. This passage is therefore, decidedly against the Rabbinic doctrine, and therefore the Rabbinic doctrine cannot be true.

The second case cited by the Talmud is still stronger, as a testimony, both against the system and the men. It tells us that Zedekiah swore to Nebuchadnezzar not to betray him in a certain matter, which no law, either of God or man, compelled him to divulge - that he swore by the name of the God of Israel, and yet that after this most solemn transcation, he did what he had sworn not to do. He betrayed a man from whom he had received kindness, and equally disregarded the obligations of gratitude and the sacred ties of an oath - in short, that he committed perjury. This is in itself bad enough; but the Talmud proceeds further to tell us, that this was not his own individual act, but the solemn decision of the Supreme Council of the Sanhedrin. Zedekiah did not perjure himself without having advice. He went to the Sanhedrin, and they absolved him from the obligation of the oath, and that contrary to their own maxim, that an oath sworn to a neighbour cannot be absolved, except in his presence.

Here, then, the Talmud plainly confesses that the Sanhedrin did wrong, in fact, that they were aiders and abettors in Zedekiah's perjury; that, therefore, they were men who had no regard for truth, and no fear of God; and consequently, that no man of any common sense would believe a single word that came out of their mouths. What, then, becomes of the whole fabric of Jewish tradition? It depends altogether upon the unimpeachable character of the various Sanhedrins through whose hands it passed. If, therefore, we should find that any one Sanhedrin consisted of notorious liars, the geuninenes of the oral law is at an end. But here the Talmud itself tells us that even before the deportation of Zedekiah, the Sanhedrin consisted, not of common liars, but of false swearers, of men who had so little regard for the name of the Lord, as to absolve a solemn oath of which thta name was the safeguard. [1]


[1]
Alexander McCaul, The Old Paths chapters 56 and 57. Dr. McCaul was Prof of Old Testament Hebrew and rabbinic Literature of King's College London. His mission of converting Judaic people to Christ was conduced in a nineteenth century that bore much fruit in this regard, resulting in the conversion for example of Abraham Buchner (1789-1869), professor at the rabbinic seminary in Warsaw and author of a study of the "worthlessness of the Talmud." (Der talmud in seiner Nichtigket [2 vols., Warsaw, 1848]). Buchner's work and that of Asher Temkin, a Judaic convert to Greek Orthodox Christianity and author of Derek Selulah ("The Straight Road"), St. Petersburg, Russia, 1835, were both sponsored by Tsar Nicholas I, who also underwrote the research of the eminent Roman Catholic missionary to Judaics and scholar of the Talmud, Abbe Luigi Chiarini (1789-1832), Prof of Oriental Languages at the Univ. of warsaw and the author of the Theorie du Judaisme Appliquee a la Reforme des Israelites (2 vols. Paris, J. Barbezat, 1830)


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Now in order to understand where the six million number comes from, we have to take a brief lesson on Judaism's Talmud and Kabbala. The Jews follow the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament, but they also follow the Oral Law of the rabbis which was written down eventually into the Talmud. From wikipedia:
The Talmud is a record of rabbinic discussions pertaining to Jewish law, ethics, customs, and history. It is a central text of Rabbinic Judaism, second only to the Hebrew Bible in importance.

The Talmud has two components: the Mishnah (c. 200 CE), the first written compendium of Judaism's Oral Law; and the Gemara (c. 500 CE), a discussion of the Mishnah and related Tannaitic writings that often ventures onto other subjects and expounds broadly on the Tanakh.

The terms Talmud and Gemara are often used interchangeably. The Gemara is the basis for all codes of rabbinic law and is much quoted in other rabbinic literature. The whole Talmud is also traditionally referred to as Shas (ש"ס), a Hebrew abbreviation of shisha sedarim, the "six orders" of the Mishnah.


Now there are two Jewish Talmuds. The Palestinian and the Babylonian one. From wikipedia again:

The Jerusalem Talmud or Talmud Yerushalmi, often the Yerushalmi for short, and also known as the Palestinian Talmud, is a collection of Rabbinic notes about the Jewish Oral tradition as detailed in the 2nd-century Mishnah.

The Jerusalem Talmud predates its counterpart, the Babylonian Talmud, by about 200 years and is written in both Hebrew and Aramaic. It includes the core component, the Mishna, finalized by Rabbi Judah the Prince (c. 200 CE) along with the written discussions of generations of rabbis in the Land of Israel (primarily in the academies of Tiberias and Caesarea) which was compiled c. 350-400 CE into a series of books that became the Gemara (- from gamar: Hebrew "[to] complete"; Aramaic "[to] study"). The Gemara, when combined with the Mishnah, completes the Talmud.

There are two recensions of the Gemara, one compiled by the scholars of the Land of Israel and the other by those of Babylonia (primarily in the academies of Sura and Pumbedita, completed c. 500 CE). The Babylonian Talmud is often seen as more authoritative and is studied much more than the Jerusalem Talmud. In general, the terms "Gemara" or "Talmud," without further qualification, refer to the Babylonian recension.


Justin Pranaitis, a Russian priest, wrote a book which gave a brief history of the Talmud but also exposed the hateful inimical teachings regarding Christians. It is called THE TALMUD UNMASKED. Detractors have gone so far as to even suggest that his knowledge of Hebrew was very limited and that he was shown up at a murder trial when he was was asked to testify on the jewish Talmud and was asked once, "who was baba Bathra and where did she live?" to which he replied I don't know. Detractors say, "ha, Baba is Russian for grandmother and the lawyer tricked him. He's an ignoramous." The problem is, this exchange which took place at a murder trial never even happened and I have someone who found the russian transcripts of this trial and said this exchange was not there. For those who don't know Baba Bathra, is one of the 63 books in the Jewish Babylonian Talmud.

Anyway, in his book, he also gave a brief history of the Talmud.
http://www.talmudunmasked.com/chapter1.htm
THE TALMUD gets its name from the word LAMUD — taught, and means The Teaching. By metonymy it is taken to mean the book which contains the Teaching, which teaching is called Talmud, that is, the doctrinal book which alone fully expounds and explains all the knowledge and teaching of the Jewish people.

As to the origin of the Talmud, the Rabbis(6) regard Moses as its first author. They hold that, besides the written law which Moses received from God on Mount Sinai on tables of stone, which is called Torah Schebiktab, he also received interpretations of it, or the oral law, which is called Torah Shebeal Peh. They say that this is the reason why Moses remained so long on the mountain, as God could have given him the written law in one day.(7)

(6) cf. Rabbi Levi in Berakhoth, fol. 5a; Rabbi Iochanan in Megillah, f.19b.

(7) To prove this they appeal to Exodus Ch. XXIV, 12: "And the Lord God said to Moses, come up to me into the mountain, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them." They assert that in this passage the words "tables of stone" mean the ten commandments, that "a law" means the Pentateuch, "commandments" mean the Mischnah; "which I have written" the Prophets and the Hagiographers; and "that thou mayest teach them" the Gemarah. cf. Berakhoth, fol. 5a.

Moses is said to have transmitted this oral law to Joshua; Joshua in turn to the seventy Elders; the Elders to the Prophets, and the Prophets to the Great Synagogue. It is held that it was later transmitted successively to certain Rabbis until it was no longer possible to retain it orally.

These seventy elders were called the Sanhedrin. In the bible they were called the Pharisees and Jesus rebuked them and their oral tradition. Continuing with Pranaitis.

The Mischnah is the foundation and the principal part of the whole Talmud. This book was accepted by the Jews everywhere and was recognized as their authentic code of law. It was expounded in their Academies in Babylon — at Sura, Pumbaditha and Nehardea — and in their Academies in Palestine — at Tiberias, Iamnia and Lydda.

As the interpretations increased with the passing of time, the disputations and decisions of the doctors of the law concerning the Mischnah were written down, and these writings constituted another part of the Talmud called the Gemarah.

These two parts are so disposed throughout the whole Talmud that the Mischnah serves first as a kind of text of the law, and is followed by the Gemarah as an analysis of its various opinions leading to definite decisions.

All the precepts of the Mischnah, however, were not discussed in the Jewish schools. Those whose use was nullified by the destruction of the Temple, and those whose observation was possible only in the Holy Land were not commented upon. Their explanation was left until the coming of Elias and the Messiah. For this reason some parts of the Mischnah are lacking in the Gemarah.

In interpreting the Mischnah of Rabbi Jehuda, the schools of Palestine and Babylon followed each their own method, and by thus following their own way gave rise to a twofold Gemarah — the Jerusalem and the Babylonian versions. The author of the Jerusalem version was Rabbi Jochanan, who was head of the synagogue in Jerusalem for eighty years. He wrote thirty-nine chapters of commentaries on the Mischnah which he completed in the year 230 A.D.

The Babylonian Gemarah, however, was not compiled by any one person, nor at any one time. Rabbi Aschi began it in 327 A.D and labored over it for sixty years. He was followed by Rabbi Maremar about the year 427 A.D., and it was completed by Rabbi Abina about the year 500 A.D. The Babylonian Gemarah has thirty-six chapters of interpretations.

This twofold Gemarah, added to the Mischnah, makes also a twofold Talmud: The Jerusalem version, which, on account of its brevity and obscurity, is not much used; and the Babylonian version, which has been held in the highest esteem by Jews of all times.

The wikipedia entry says that the Talmud takes a back seat to the Torah, but that is not true. Certainly not for the rabbis. Pranaitis' compilation of Jewish sources proves this.

An important point to note is that this work has always been regarded by the Jews as holy. They have always held it, and still hold it, as more important than the Sacred Scriptures.The Talmud itself shows this very clearly:

In the tract Babha Metsia, fol. 33a, we read:

"Those who devote themselves to reading the Bible exercise a certain virtue, but not very much; those who study the Mischnah exercise virtue for which they will receive a reward; those, however, who take upon themselves to study the Gemarah exercise the highest virtue."


Likewise in the tract Sopherim XV, 7, fol. 13b:

"The Sacred Scripture is like water, the Mischnah wine, and the Gemarah aromatic wine.


The following is a well-known and highly praised opinion in the writings of the Rabbis:

"My son, give heed to the words of the scribes rather than to the words of the law."(12)

(12) cf. Erubhin, f. 21b


The reason for this is found in the tract Sanhedrin X, 3, f.88b:

"He who transgresses the words of the scribes sins more gravely than the transgressors of the words of the law."


Also when there are differences of opinion between the Law and the doctors, both must be taken as the words of the Lord God.

In the tract Erubhin, f.13b, where it is related that there was a difference of opinion between the two schools of Hillel and Schamai, it is concluded that:

"The words of both are the words of the living God."


In the book Mizbeach,(13) cap. V, we find the following opinion:

"There is nothing superior to the Holy Talmud."

(13) cf. Joan. Buxtorf, Recensio operis Talmud, p. 225.


Contemporary defenders of the Talmud speak of it almost in the same way.(14)

(14) cf. Talmud Babli, Tract. Berachoth, Berlin edit., 1842. Pref. p. 8.

So now that we know a little about the Talmud, let's look to another Jewish holy book, the Kabbalah. From wikipedia:
Kabbalah, which literally means "receiving", is the mystical aspect of Judaism. It is a set of esoteric teachings meant to define the inner meaning of both the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) and traditional Rabbinic literature, as well as to explain the significance of Jewish religious observances.

According to the Zohar, generally considered the foremost Kabbalistic text, Torah study is divided into four levels:[2]

Peshat, the simple meaning of the text;
Remez, literally "hint[s]"—biblical allusion and allegory;
Derash, i.e. midrash, Rabbinic scriptural exegesis;
Sod, which is the kabbalah, the secret inner meaning of the Torah.
Kabbalah is considered, by its followers, as a necessary part of the study of Torah -- the study of Torah (the Law of God) being an inherent duty of observant Jews.[3] Kabbalah teaches doctrines that are accepted by some Jews as the true meaning of Judaism while other Jews have rejected these doctrines as heretical and antithetical to Judaism.

The origins of the actual term Kabbalah are unknown and disputed to belong either to Solomon ibn Gabirol (1021 - 1058) or else to the 13th century CE Spanish Kabbalist Bahya ben Asher. While other terms have been used in many religious documents from the 2nd century CE up to the present day, the term Kabbalah has become the main descriptive of Jewish esoteric knowledge and practices. The Kabbalistic literature, which served as the basis for most of the development of Kabbalistic thought, divides between early works such as Heichalot and Sefer Yetzirah (believed to be dated 1st or 2nd Century CE) and later works dated to the 13th century CE, of which the main book is the Zohar representing the main source for the Contemplative Kabbalah ("Kabbalah Iyunit").

According to Kabbalistic tradition, knowledge was transmitted orally by the Patriarchs, prophets, and sages (Hakhamim in Hebrew), eventually to be "interwoven" into Jewish religious writings and culture. According to this tradition, Kabbalah was, in around the 10th century BCE, an open knowledge practiced by over a million people in ancient Israel,[4] although there is little objective historical evidence to support this thesis.

Foreign conquests drove the Jewish spiritual leadership of the time (the Sanhedrin) to hide the knowledge and make it secret, fearing that it might be misused if it fell into the wrong hands.[5] The Sanhedrin leaders were also concerned that the practice of Kabbalah by Jews deported on conquest to other countries (the Diaspora), unsupervised and unguided by the masters, might lead them into wrong practice and forbidden ways. As a result, the Kabbalah became secretive, forbidden and esoteric to Judaism (“Torat Ha’Sod” ) for two and a half millennia.

Now what is considered to be the main text of the Kabbalah? The Zohar. Wikipedia again.

The Zohar (Hebrew: lit Splendor or Radiance) is widely considered the most important work of Kabbalah, or Jewish mysticism. It is a mystical commentary on the Torah (the five books of Moses), written in medieval Aramaic. It contains a mystical discussion of the nature of God, the origin and structure of the universe, the nature of souls, sin, redemption, good and evil, and related topics.

The Zohar is not one book, but a group of books; these books include scriptural interpretations as well as material on theosophic theology, mythical cosmogony, mystical psychology, and what some would call anthropology.

According to the 20th century religious historian, Gershom Scholem, most of the Zohar was written in an exalted, eccentric style of Aramaic, a language that was spoken in the Land of Israel during the Roman Period in the first centuries of the Common Era. The Zohar first appeared in Spain in the 13th century, and was published by a Jewish writer named Moses de Leon. Scholem, based on accounts from De Leon's contemporaries, and on evidence within the Zohar (Spanish idioms and syntax, for example), concluded that De Leon was the actual author.

De Leon himself ascribed this work to a rabbi of the second century, Shimon bar Yochai.[1] Jewish legend holds that during a time of Roman persecution, Rabbi Shimon hid in a cave for 13 years, studying the Torah with his son, Elazar.[2][3] During this time he is said to have been inspired by Elijah the Prophet to write the Zohar.


Now let's examine what is in the Kabbalah. A Ted Pike article lets us know.
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/kabb ... lence.html
THE JEWISH KABBALAH:
ROOT OF MIDEAST VIOLENCE
By Rev. Ted Pike
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Two “Gods” in Judaism

In the Old Testament, God is a conscious moral being. He has perfect knowledge of right and wrong, and He judges us according to our free moral choices.

Yet when the Jews were carried to distant Babylon in 587 BC by Nebuchadnezzar, they found a very different god. They discovered the pantheistic god of the east—a world force who is “great” not because he loves or is good, but because of his pervasive power everywhere.

The ancient Pharisees liked this “god” because he didn’t disapprove of their perversion of Jehovah’s laws. The Pharisees of Babylon created an elaborate secret theology for the Jews called “Kabbalah.”

Eminent Christian-Jewish historian Alfred Eidersheim comments, “It is undeniable that already at the time of Jesus Christ, there existed an assemblage of doctrines and speculations that were carefully concealed from the multitude. They were not even revealed to ordinary scholars…This kind bore the name of Kabbala…” 1

In Kabbalist theology, “God,” called the “En Sof,” is beyond rational description. He consists of the most exalted, rarified light. As his wavelengths descend, they manifest themselves, according to Jewish Kabbalists, as a most wonderful phenomenon: the Jewish people. Jews, being semi-divine, are the rational, physical manifestations of God’s presence in the universe. They are as indispensable to the existence of the universe as a proton is to an atom.

Evil Gentiles

Unfortunately, the wavelengths of God continue to descend, becoming so degenerate that they produce demons and—most troubling to Israel— satanic creatures called “Kliphoth,” or Gentiles. The rabbinic treatise, “Sepher Or Israel, 117,” recommends: “Take the life of the Klipoth and kill them, and you will please God the same as one who offers incense to Him.” 2

The Zohar, meaning “brightness” or “light,” is the five-volume repository of Kabbalistic lore and mystic speculation. It explains, “… ‘living soul’ refers to Israel who have holy, living souls from above, and ‘cattle’ and ‘creeping thing’ and ‘beast of the earth’ to the other peoples who are not ‘living soul.’…” 3

Bad Vibrations

According to the Zohar, the great tragedy of this world is that the Kliphoth or Gentiles perpetually unsettle the higher levels with their evil imbalance. As long as the Kliphoth continue to exist in their present state of discord, God and His universe will be disordered as well.

In this concept we find a rationale for the Kabbalists’ hatred of Gentiles. Christ said, “The time cometh that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.” (John 16:2) The Kabbalist sees the extermination of the Gentile as a necessary process toward restoring order in the universe. He teaches that the Gentile is a form of demon who should be treated with no more genuine benevolence than one would treat Satan himself.

Gentiles, whom the Zohar describes as “Amalekites,” have an intrinsic tendency to disorder the world, causing it to revert to its primordial state of chaos (tohu) and emptiness (bohu).

“All of these [Gentiles] tend to bring the world back to the state of tohu and bohu, and they caused the destruction of the temple. But as “tohu” and “bohu” gave place to the light, so, when God reveals Himself, they will be wiped off the earth. But, withal, redemption will not be complete until Amalek will be exterminated.” 4

“The People of the Earth are idolaters, and it has been written about them: Let them be wiped off the face of the earth.” 5

Long-Suffering Israel

Until the blessed day when the Gentiles are exterminated, the Zohar says, Israel must remain in a withered, blighted condition. This is because Gentiles, by the confusion they stir up in the lower levels, prevent the blessings of the Shekina in the upper levels from adequately descending upon Israel.

Someday, however, things will be as they were meant and “man” (meaning Israel) will be given the preeminence he was created to enjoy. Then, says the Kabbalah, “man should be unique and ruler over all.” 6

How will “man” conquer the world?

“Rabbi Jehuda said to him Rabbi Chezkia: “He is to be praised who is able to free himself from the enemies of Israel, and the just are much to be praised who get free from them and fight against them.” Rabbi Chezkia asked, “How must we fight against them?” Rabbi Jehuda said, “By wise counsel thou shalt war against them.” (Proverbs 24:6) “By what kind of war?” “The kind of war that every son of man must war against his enemies. Which Jacob used against Esau—by deceit and trickery wherever possible. They must be fought against without ceasing, until proper order be restored. Thus it is with satisfaction that I say we should free ourselves from them, and rule over them.”” 7

The intention of this passage is clear: world domination.
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Endnotes:

1 Eidersheim, Alfred. La Societe Juive au Temps de Jesus, p. 363, 364, with select quotes translated by Nesta Webster, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, p. 10.

2 Pranaitus, Rev. I. B. The Talmud Unmasked, p.82.

3 Zohar I, Bereshith 47a, Soncino translation. This is the authoritative five-volume English edition of the Zohar translated by Maurice and Sperling.

4 Zohar I, Bereshith 25b.

5 Zohar I, 25a, Pranaitus.

6 Zohar I, Bereshith 47a.

7 Zohar I, Bereshith 160a, Pranaitus, p. 74-75. The Soncino version of this passage, contained in Vol. 2, Vayeze 160a, says the same thing but in less pointed language. Scholars of the Hebrew and Aramaic language have translated this and other passages of the Zohar for me from the authoritative Mantuan edition of the Zohar, 16th century, which resides in the Judaic section of the Library of Congress. Their conclusion is that in the case of volatile passages the Pranaitus translations are consistently superior to the Soncino. In such passages which cannot be omitted, Soncino’s practice is to tone them down by paraphrasing or omitting them entirely.


This is not an exaggeration from some guy who is twisting passages out of context simply because he hates Jews. In his book ISRAEL: OUR DUTY OUR DILEMMA
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he reproduces English translations from the Zohar to show how hateful it is towards Gentiles. Here is just one example.
Zohar I 47a.
"Living soul" refers to Israel, who have holy living soulds from above, and "cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth" to the other peoples who are not "living soul", but who are as we have said.


Clearly, the more esoteric Jewish books speak of a constant war against Gentiles that Jews must overcome and eventually will. But what else is mentioned? If you know your theology, it is proclaimed that the Jews will return to Palestine and establish Israel. The bible says so and so do these other Jewish religious books. But what is key is that there is a condition laid out that must be fulfilled before the Jews return to the holy land. How many must pass away? SIX MILLION. So certain Jews had a religious reason to make such a claim.

http://globalfire.tv/nj/04en/religion/6million.htm
The word "holocaust" means burnt offering: "Amongst different animal offerings in the Jerusalem shrine there was one that was forbidden to be eaten neither by the donators nor by the priests for it had to be burnt entirely. The Hebrew word for this offering was 'ola' (literally translated: climbing up). The Greek translation of the Torah used the word 'holocauston' (entirely burnt) instead. The 'ola' was, as long as offerings were in effect and practised, the highest expression of total devotion to God." [Yehuda Radday in "The Parliament", the official government weekly paper, Bonn, nr. 5, May 24, 1977, p. 19]

Ritual offerings belong to Jewish history as Abraham and Moses. Yaweh, God of Zion, demanded always the most gruesome deeds from his ilk, like ritual slaughter and the burning of slaughtered cadavers. This God mapped it out in great detail for his followers (Torah, Old Testament) describing how he wanted the burnt offerings to be served. He intoxicates himself by the stink of smouldering cadavers over burning wood as "an aroma pleasing the LORD". He then demands from his terrified subjects: "sprinkle the blood against the altar on all sides. From the fellowship offering he is to bring a sacrifice made to the LORD by fire: all the fat that covers the inner parts or is connected to them, both kidneys with the fat on them near the loins, and the covering of the liver, which he will remove with the kidneys. ... as an offering made by fire, an aroma pleasing the LORD." [Leviticus 3:2-5]

But animal offerings, which were bad enough, were not enough to satisfy Yaweh's blood lust entirely and he upped the stakes by demanding human offerings. Moreover, he even ordered his followers to holocaust their own children: »Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."« [Genesis 22, 2]

The Jews, being very intimate with God's predilections, pledged weighty holocaust offerings whenever they begged for a favour or for help in times of desperate straits: "And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD: 'If you give the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD's, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering'." [Judges 11:30,31]

For the permission to return to the Promised Land, God allegedly demanded from them a "6-Million-Holocaust-Offering", so the high priests interpreted a Torah prophecy that reads: "You shall return" (due to a spelling mistake the priests interpret it this way "You shall return, minus 6 million")

This self-imposed prophesy – without fulfilment of this prophesy the return to the Promised Land would not be permitted – led to the 1919 "six-million-prophecy-crash". Based on the Balfour-Declaration of 1917 the state of Israel was guaranteed, and the Diaspora-Jews would return to the "Promised Land". The leading Jews at that time expected 1920 a migration of their brethren into "their Land". But, before the return could take place, "6 million" of them had to disappear, according to the wrongly interpreted prophecy.

In fact, Jewish organisations proclaimed already in 1919 a "6 million-holocaust", taking place in the Ukraine: "Six million men and women are dying; eight-hundred-thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, through no transgression of the law of God or man; but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life ..." [The American Hebrew, Oct. 31, 1919, Nbr. 582]

Since the global political situation was such, that the founding of the state of Israel was not possible, the whole "6 million" idea of 1919 was simply put on ice. However, the fulfilment of this prophecy is now taking place in the courtrooms of Europe, where verdict after verdict against critical historians, serve as "judicial notice" proof that the holocaust-version of "6 million" Jewish victims murdered in the "burning ovens" of the Nazis "took place", meaning, that the prophecy is fulfilled and the "Chosen People" can now return to Israel with the permission of the Cabala.

Those "6 million", which must allegedly missing in order to return to the "Promised Land", is said to be Yaweh's way of cleansing the Jewish souls of all sins, since a return of sinful and unclean souls is not permitted. The cleansing of the "chosen" souls was to be administered in "burning ovens": "God said: Could I forget the holocaust-victims? Rabbi Tanchum, Chanilias son said: In the hour, when Hananja, Misael and Asarja stepped out of the burning ovens, the people of the world came together to strike the haters of Israel in the face." [The Talmud, Goldmann Publishers, Munich 1980, pages 138, 225]

Are we now to understand, that "6 million" had to disappear in the "burning ovens" of Auschwitz (who quiet possibly stepped out of them again, as the Talmud says and as Moshe Peer describes his survival of six gassing procedures at Bergen Belsen albeit Belsen had no gas chambers), in order to be worthy of returning to the "Promised Land", cleansed and pure and, at the same time, to break the resistance in many parts of the world against the Hebrew-leadership, aiming for world dominance? Since the Jews went allegedly through the crematories of Auschwitz, the world "strikes all haters of Israel in the face", as we all know. With the "burning ovens" of Auschwitz (the second holocaust) the Jews have become the "untouchables", they are invincible. Nobody dares to even utter one syllable of criticism "out of fear of the Jews" [Book of Ester, 8:17] or as we know from the persecution of Jesus, the Christian redeemer: "But no-one would say anything publicly ... for fear of the Jews." [John 7:13]

No-one less important than the late Director of the German government sponsored Institute for Contemporary History, Dr. Martin Broszat, stated under oath in front of a German court, that the "6 million holocaust-Jews" were a "symbolical figure", not a factual one [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Aug. 23, 1994, page 7]. Zalman Grinberg, who chaired the "Munich Conference of Liberated Jews" on January 27, 1946 revealed in view of the planned creation of a Jewish state: "We offered six million people." [Süddeutsche Zeitung, 16.2.2001, page 53]

Now what was said earlier is key.

a Torah prophecy that reads: "You shall return" (due to a spelling mistake the priests interpret it this way "You shall return, minus 6 million")

In the book THE HOLOCAUST DOGMA OF JUDAISM, Weintraub, explores this further. Click on that link. It is a free embedded pdf file. Jump ahead to page 30 of the embedded pdf file.
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Now, finally.
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/d ... o_myth.htm
DECONSTRUCTING SIX MILLION HOLO-MYTHS EXPLORING THE OCCULT ORIGINS OF CRUCIAL HOLOCAUST DOGMA
By Dr. Harrell Rhome
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There is much more that could be said, and we have hardly mentioned the alleged gas chambers, but there is no reason to belabor the point. Germar Rudolf, and others have eloquently and exhaustively refuted this cruel confabulation. The laws enforcing public belief in the Hollow-Co$t are made out of fear of the facts, or in many cases, lack of facts. It does not take the proverbial rocket scientist to discover flagrant flaws in the so-called evidence that would not hold up in a simple debate format. That is why the truth deniers never permit open debate, and of course, never allow revisionists a voice on their carefully controlled and contrived media. So far, the Internet is an exception, but that could change. Efforts are already under way.

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Minus 6 Million (or the letter vav),

In The Hebrew Year 5708, Gematrically Fulfilling
Prophecy, When The State of Israel Was
Founded In 1948.

Let’s take a further look at the mystical roots of certain numbers and words. Holocaust Dogma Of Judaism says: “According to Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh in The Alef-beit: Jewish Thought Revealed Through the Hebrew Letters, the letter vav, w equals 6. The Zohar, one of the holy books of the Jews, reads, ‘He created six’ which Ginsburgh equates to the six days of Creation and the six extremities of space signified by the lulav and etrog shaking on Sukot, as taught in the Kabbalah. The secret of the word truth resides in the triangle of 6, he says, and for this reason the letter vav is known as “the letter of truth.” In the first word of Creation in the Zohar, we are told by Ginsburgh that the Alef, or first letter, signifies 1,000. Bear the symbolism of the number 6 in mind as you recall that the number of square feet in the Hall of Remembrance was 6,000, as is the number of children’s hand-painted tiles. Truly, the number 6 is everywhere.” As you may already know, the so-called Star of David is a six-pointed hexagram, two triangles overlaid, a sexual symbol in its most ancient use. Weintraub tells us more.

“…Rabbi Blech’s book ‘The Secrets of Hebrew Words’ in the last, very brief, Prophecies and Predictions: The Final Redemption. This page is headed with the Hebrew phrase TaShuVU meaning ‘you shall return.’ In the third paragraph, he says, ‘The Hebrew word for ‘ye shall return,’ [email protected]#U$tf@ (TaShuVU), seems to be spelled incorrectly. Grammatically it requires another w (vav). It ought to read [email protected]@#U$tf@.’ He continues:

Why is it lacking the letter w (vav), which stands for 6? [email protected]#U$tf@ (without the ‘vav’) is a prediction to the Jewish people of ultimate return to their homeland. [email protected]#U$tf@ in numbers adds up to 708: t (tav) = 400, #& (shin) = 300, b (vet) = 2, w (vav) = 6. When we write the year, we ignore the millennia. In 1948 on the secular calendar, we witnessed the miracle of Jewish return to Israel. On the Hebrew calendar it was the year 5708. That was the year predicted by the incomplete word [email protected]#U$tf@ (TaShuVU), ‘you shall return.’ We did return, lacking 6 — an all-important 6 million of our people who perished during the Holocaust.”

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby Drew J » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:48 pm)

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Ilya Ehrenberg - The Man
Who Invented The 'Six Million'
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He was a prolific writer, celebrated author of various novels and other works of fiction. He was the top Soviet propagandist during the Second World War. He was a notorious liar and a pathological monster. He was a Jew.

As a a leading member of the Soviet-sponsored Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee, Ilya Ehrenburg appeared at fund-raising rallies in the United States, raising support for the Communist cause while displaying fake bars of soap allegedly manufactured by the Germans from the corpses of dead Jews.

But Ehrenburg was perhaps most notorious for his viciously anti-German hate propaganda in World War II. In it, he exhorted Soviet troops to kill all Germans they encountered without pity.*

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Ilya Grigoryevich Ehrenburg
January 27, 1891 - August 31, 1967


In one leaflet entitled "Kill," Ehrenburg incited the simple Russian soldier to treat the Germans as subhuman. The final paragraph concludes:

"The Germans are not human beings. From now on, the word 'German' is the most horrible curse. From now on, the word 'German' strikes us to the quick. We have nothing to discuss. We will not get excited. We will kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day ... If you cannot kill a German with a bullet, then kill him with your bayonet. If your part of the front is quiet and there is no fighting, then kill a German in the meantime ... If you have already killed a German, then kill another one - there is nothing more amusing to us than a heap of German corpses. Don't count the days, don't count the kilometers. Count only one thing: the number of Germans you have killed. Kill the Germans! ... - Kill the Germans! Kill!"

And in another leaflet: "The Germans must be killed. One must kill them ... Do you feel sick? Do you feel a nightmare in your breast? ... Kill a German! If you are a righteous an conscientious man - kill a German! ... Kill!"

This is typical of the steady diet of pathological hate fed to millions of Soviet troops by this Jew, safely ensconced far from the front.

But it wasn't only the ordinary German soldier Ehrenburg was talking about, whom he accused of the very atrocities the Communists were themselves committing. Ehrenburg's incendiary writings were, in fact, a prime motivating factor in the orgy of murder and rape against the civilian population that took place as Soviet troops rampaged into the heart of Europe. Appealing to the lowest, most subhuman instincts of this Bolshevik horde, he reiterated his genocidal message:

"Kill! Kill! In the German race there is nothing but evil; not one among the living, not one among the yet unborn but is evil! Follow the precepts of Comrade Stalin. Stamp out the fascist beast once and for all in its lair! Use force and break the racial pride of these German women. Take them as your lawful booty. Kill! As you storm onward, kill, you gallant soldiers of the Red Army."

The crowning achievement of Ehrenburg's career came on December 22, 1944, when this hate-crazed fiend became the first person to mention the kabbalistic figure of Six Million alleged Jewish victims of National Socialism, and then proceeded to introduce that figure into Soviet propaganda.

After the war he joined with co-racial and fellow propagandist Vasily (Iosif Solomonovich) Grossman to produce a fictitious "Black Book" and lay the foundation for what has come to be known as "The Holocaust."** The rest is history.

Ehrenburg never forgot his Jewish roots, and before his death he arranged for the transfer of his private archives to the tribal cult center at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem.

And so, it is altogether fitting that the birthday of this psychopathic lie-master should have been chosen as a day on which to remember the hoax which he concocted and of which he was the original inventor.

* For a graphic description of some of the more grisly and ghastly atrocities inspired by this Jewish psychopath, see Stalin's War of Extermination by Joachim Hoffmann, the 415-page documented volume showing what America's Soviet ally was actually like in the "Good War." Available for $40 from NS Publications.

** For an overview of this historical fiction, see The Hoax of the Twentieth Century by Prof. Arthur Butz, the 506-page, illustrated revisionist classic, available for $25 from NS Publications.

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Anonymous said...
The "6 milliom jews" was not invented by Ilya Ehrenburg. This number is much older then that. He only picked up a popular number.
Fist time was 11th of june 1900, in New York Times. The number "6 million jews" then was repeted several times during the first half of 20th century. 1902, 1905, 1911, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1918, 1923, 1926, 1936
"6 million jews" is a myth, much older then WWII - so is the "gas chamber" and the word "Holocaust".

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http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history ... sies.shtml
One Voice Speaks for Six Million
The uses and abuses of Anne Frank's diary.
By Lawrence Graver

Reprinted with permission from The Yale Holocaust Encyclopedia (Yale University Press).

By the late 1950's, Anne Frank had become a legend: known around the world not only as the author of a vivid, life-affirming book, but also as the prime symbol of the sufferings of innocent victims of Nazi genocide. "One voice speaks for six million," the Russian writer Ilya Ehrenburg wrote, "the voice not of a sage or a poet but of an ordinary little girl."




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Preface By Germar Rudolf

As we all know, roughly six million Jews were killed by National Socialist Germany during World War II, or so we are told. This genocide is today generally referred to as the Holocaust or the Shoah. But how do we know that six million Jews lost their lives? And for how long have we known it?

Whereas it seems that the first question can be answered by demographic research on the Jewish losses during World War Two, the second question has to be directed to historians.

With regard to the first question, while several scholars tried to make demographic investigations into the question of Jewish population losses during World War Two - sometimes with quite conflicting results - it was not until 1991 that a major monograph, published in Germany by a mainstream publishing house and authored by a group of renowned authors, addressed this important issue. To nobody's surprise, the result of this massive demographic study confirmed what everybody knew anyway:[1]

"The bottom line indicates a minimum of 5.29 and a maximum of just over 6 million [Jewish victims of the Holocaust]."

And even though the six million figure had been called a highly "symbolic figure,"[2]it has now reached almost sacrosanct proportions. It is clear that the massive social and legal persecution encountered by everyone in Germany who doubts, denies, or refutes the six million figure[3]has resulted in an invisible guideline for this study despite the editor of said tome, Wolfgang Benz, rushing to point out:[4]

"Of course the purpose of this project also was not to prove any pre-set figure ('six million')."

But considering that the Holy Holocaust is without any doubt the biggest taboo of our times, is this really a matter of course?

In a comparative analysis of Benz' study with a major revisionist analysis of Jewish population losses during World War Two,[5]I pointed out that Benz' work has so many logical, methodic, and systematic flaws that its result have to be rejected.[6]

But if it is true that we do not have a reliable demographic study that shows without a doubt that six million Jews lost their lives during World War Two, then why are we confronted with this six million figure? Where does this figure originate? And when was this figure first propounded?

The late Dr. Joachim Hoffmann was the first mainstream historian who marveled over this question. In his 1995 study Stalin's War of Extermination 1941-1945, he pointed out that the chief Soviet atrocity propagandist, Ilya Ehrenburg, had publicized the six-million-figure in the Soviet foreign press as early as January 4, 1945, i.e., fully four months before the war's end.[7]At that time, no demographic figures could have been available to him. Just a year later, British Historian David Irving emphasized that as early as June 1945, in other words immediately after the end of hostilities in Europe, some Zionist leaders claimed to be able to provide the precise number of Jewish victims - six million, of course - even though the chaos reigning in Europe at that time rendered any demographic studies impossible.[8]

Revisionist scholars, on the other hand, have long pondered about the origin of the six million figure, the most famous and thorough research stemming from Prof. Dr. Arthur Butz in his epochal work The Hoax of the Twentieth Century.[9]While analyzing a large amount of New York Times articles on the persecution of Jews in German dominated Europe during World War Two, Butz found several articles which clearly indicate that as early as late 1942/early 1943, Jewish lobbying groups within the United States were already anticipating a total loss of five to six million Jews at war's end. Some of these articles I would like to briefly quote here, taken from Butz' book:

NYT, June 30, 1942, p. 7:

"1,000,000 Jews Slain By Nazis, Report Says"[10]

NYT, September 3, 1942, p. 5:

"A European observer said the Germans planned to exterminate the Jews not only in Europe, but throughout the world. He declared the Nazis had executed 2,000,000 Jews in the past three years."[11]

NYT, December 13, 1942, p. 21:

"[...] 'Authenticated reports point to 2,000,000 Jews who have already been slain by all manner of satanic barbarism, and plans for the total extermination of all Jews upon whom the Nazis can lay their hands. The slaughter of a third of the Jewish population in Hitler's domain[3?2,000,000=6,000,000] and the threatened slaughter of all is a holocaust without parallel.'"[12]

NYT, December 20, 1942, p. 23:

"What is happening to the 5,000,000 Jews of German-held Europe, all of whom face extermination [...].
Early in December 1942 the State Department in Washington gave some figures showing that the number of Jewish victims deported and perished since 1939 in Axis-controlled Europe now reached the appalling figure of 2,000,000 and that 5,000,000 were in danger of extermination."[13]

NYT, March 2, 1943, pp. 1, 4:

"Immediate action by the United Nations to save as many as possible of the five million Jews threatened with extermination [...] was demanded at a mass demonstration [...] in Madison Square Garden last night.
[...Rabbi Hertz said] 'appalling is the fact that those who proclaim the Four Freedoms have so far done very little to secure even the freedom to live for 6,000,000 of their Jewish fellow men by readiness to rescue those who might still escape Nazi torture and butchery. [...]'"[14]

NYT, March 10, 1943, p. 12:

"Forty thousand persons listened and watched [...] last night to two performances of 'We Will Never Die,' a dramatic mass memorial to the 2,000,000 Jews killed in Europe. [...] The narrator said 'There will be no Jews left in Europe for representation when peace comes. The four million left to kill are being killed, according to plan.'"[15]

NYT, April 20, 1943, p. 11:

"London, April 19 (Reuter) - Two million Jews have been wiped out since the Nazis began their march through Europe in 1939 and five million more are in immediate danger of execution. These figures were revealed in the sixth report on conditions in occupied territories issued by the Inter-Allied Information Committee."

Thus, Butz concludes in his book:[16]

"Another point that should be made here [...] is that the six million figure had its origin apparently in the propaganda of 1942-1943."

Butz also shows that the origins of these articles were Jewish-Zionist pressure groups like the World Jewish Congress and the American Jewish Congress. Initially, their claims were not taken seriously in Washington, until Henry Morgenthau of the Treasury department managed to reduce the influence of the State Department on official U.S. politics.[17]

But even Butz' farsighted approach was still a little short. Let me first go back in time six more years. On November 25, 1936, Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, testified in front of the Peel Commission, which was formed as a reaction of violent clashes between Jews and Arabs in Palestine and which finally decided to divide Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab State. In his speech, Weizmann said:[18]

"It is no exaggeration to say that six million Jews are sentenced to be imprisoned in this part of the world, where they are unwanted, and for whom the countries are divided into those, where they are unwanted, and those, where they are not admitted."

That Weizmann's reference to six million threatened and/or suffering Jews is neither an exception nor by any means the earliest reference to this figure, is now shown by Don Heddesheimer. He has collected a vast amount of material indicating that the propaganda unleashed by Zionist organization during World War Two was not unprecedented. As a matter of fact, it is a mere repetition - or should we say continuation? - of propaganda, which intensified during World War One (!) and reached its first culmination in the 1920s. Already by then, the figures of five or six million Jews threatened by death were widely publicized and were used as a means to an end: namely the uncritical support of Jewish and Zionist political goals.[19]To go one step further, Heddesheimer even found a source from 1900 claiming that six million suffering Jews were a good argument for Zionism (see p. 40).

In this preface, I have quoted several New York Times articles of the years 1942 and 1943, because after having read this book, I would like the reader to come back to these pages and read those articles again. He will then be struck by the similarity of the theme. But he will also notice a difference:

During World War Two, Zionist pressure groups found a very convenient propaganda target in National Socialist Germany, whose extremely anti-Jewish politics invited all sorts of credible sounding accusations.

Before, during, and immediately after World War One, however, the situation was more complex. As Heddesheimer shows, the major target for polemic attacks in the years before World War One was czarist Russia due to its policies toward Jews, which many Zionists considered to be anti-Jewish. After czarist Russia's defeat was apparent in 1916/1917, Zionist propaganda switched its target over to Germany (see pp. 38f. of this book), whose ally, the Ottoman Empire (Turkey), needed to be defeated to 'liberate' Palestine for Zionist plans (and of course in order to secure billions of dollars lent to the British and French). Such propaganda accusations against Germany, however, ceased at war's end, because Germany, in those years, was quite willing and capable of defending itself against such untrue propaganda.

After the end of World War One, when Zionist dreams about Palestine were temporarily disappointed, but new hopes had arisen with the Soviet experiment in Russia, no particular country was initially singled out, even though there was a perfect target: Poland.

Between World War One and World War Two, Poland was a military dictatorship, which implemented a policy of 'ethnic pressure,' i.e., all non-Polish minorities were subjected to discriminations and various degrees of persecution with the intention to 'convince' them to emigrate (quite similar to what Israel does today in Palestine against non-Jews). The Jews in Poland were not exempt from this treatment. As a matter of fact, Polish official as well as unofficial anti-Judaism was so massive that many Polish Jews preferred to live in Germany even during the Third Reich until late 1938 rather than to stay in their native country.

Hence, there was enough justification to massively attack Poland for its rabid anti-Jewish attitude as there were reasons to attack Germany after Adolf Hitler rose to power there and step by step implemented a policy increasingly comparable to that already in effect in Poland.

Although it can be shown that The New York Times accused Poland of anti-Jewish persecution in many articles - whereas this newspaper was basically silent about similar persecution suffered by Germans, Lithuanians, Ruthenians, Ukrainians, and Slovaks residing in Poland -Heddesheimer does not focus on this aspect, because his book is not about the suffering and persecution of Jews in eastern Europe, but about propaganda and fund raising in New York. I therefore want to draw the reader's attention to a few examples of articles in The New York Times addressing anti-Jewish persecution in Poland.

Already by 1919, a report about alleged anti-Jewish pogroms in Poland appeared in the New York Times, but with a very ironic connotation, since the veracity of these reports was doubted:[20]

"It has been pointed out that some of these reports may have originated with German propagandists or may have been exaggerated by them with the obvious purpose of discrediting Poland with the Allies, in the hope that Germany might be the gainer thereby. Germany might have assisted in spreading these stories, may have invented them, although it would be a cruel deception to wring the hearts of great multitudes of people in order to gain such an end [...]"

False claims of Jewish suffering would be cruel, indeed, and it sure is nice to read it from the horse's mouth. It is troubling, however, when such claims are falsely attributed as in this case where the New York Times apparently could not suppress its prejudice to potentially see the 'evil German' behind everything.

In some articles during the 1920s addressing the sufferings of Polish Jewry, these hardships were interestingly depicted as a result of general economic hardship in Poland after World War One rather than as a result of any specific anti-Jewish policies.[21]Others, in particular during the 1930s when Polish policies became more repressive, reported about anti-Jewish persecutions, which triggered the public protest of Dr. Joseph Tenenbaum, the chairman of the American Jewish Congress.[22]This was, however, also accompanied with some dramatic exaggerated claims about the suffering of the Jews:[23]

"The Jewish people all over the world face a war of extinction, Dr. Tenenbaum declared in an address [...]."

This was roughly one year before Hitler was elected Chancellor of Germany!

Even though Poland's anti-minority policies in general and anti-Jewish policies in particular, which started right at this country's establishment in 1918/19, made it a perfect target for criticism, this aspect of Polish history is today almost forgotten.

As we know today, the largest suffering of mankind between the two world wars was happening in the Soviet Union, so one would expect that the Zionist organizations would name the Red Terror as one main reason for the claimed sufferings of Jews. But this didn't happen until later. The reason for that can be deduced from one example, shedding bright light onto how the New York Times viewed the situation of Jews in the Soviet Union. In late 1922, this newspaper reported that there were some hostilities toward Jews in the Ukraine, but that this was stamped out violently with the help of a Jewish army of allegedly 500,000 soldiers - an army that could have been formed and operated only with the consent of the new Soviet authorities.[24]In other words: Considering the terror inflicted upon the civil population of the early Soviet Union in general and the Ukraine in particular by armed and unarmed units of the Soviet authorities, it must be assumed that this Jewish army was one important factor causing terror rather than defending against it. And the New York Times depicted this essential part of Red Terror as heroic, justified Jewish self-defense. This attitude can be understood if one keeps in mind that many Zionist Jews looked at the new Soviet Union as a Jewish dominated and controlled experiment of a Jewish led country free of anti-Judaism.

Another aspect of the story is to trace the money raised by those fund raising campaigns. In chapter five, Heddesheimer addresses this question. The literature quoted by him shows that Jewish organizations were indeed using some of the money to assist the Jewish populace in Poland. But on the ugly side, as Heddesheimer hints at in his fifth chapter, it also served as a fund raising drive to support various aspects of the Jewish dominated communist revolution in Russia, or in other words: to wittingly or unwittingly finance the Jewish-Soviet holocaust against Christians in Russia, the Ukraine, and all the other states within the Soviet Union.

In contrast to that, the second large-scale Zionist fund and support raising campaign during World War Two was pointed at the creation of Israel, and this propaganda has never ceased. First of all because Israel has a continuous need for massive support, whereas the Soviet Union did not get any more such support after it became basically de-Judaized under Stalin, and secondly because Germany collapsed totally after the war and has never been allowed to defend itself against those Zionist propaganda claims; quite to the contrary: it is punishable by law in Germany and many other European countries to challenge those claims.

In his last chapter, Heddesheimer briefly investigates whether or not the claims of extraordinary Jewish sufferings made by Zionist pressure groups during the late 1910s and the 1920s were based on facts. Did Jews in Central and eastern Europe suffer more than the average populace in those countries, which had collapsed after World War One? Was there indeed a holocaust looming or going on in the years between 1915 and 1927? Using contemporary Jewish population statistics, Heddesheimer briefly points out that the worldwide Jewish population was growing much faster during and shortly after World War One than the other religious and/or ethnic groups who lived in the same countries.

That should suffice to answer the above questions.

One might also easily conclude that if those first holocaust claims were true, it would dominate our history books as the First Holocaust. But since it cannot be found there, we can rightly assume that this propaganda was untrue.

To close my preface, I would like to briefly mention the means of alleged Jewish suffering in both holocaust propaganda claims. Whereas simple poverty is mainly claimed to have been the reason for the (invented) First Holocaust, mass murder by gas chambers and executions are supposed to have been the means during the Second, the 'real' Holocaust.

Even though gas chamber claims were not part of the propaganda pattern of the 1910s and 1920s, there is one known exception, which was published by the London Daily Telegraph on March 22, 1916, p. 7:

"ATROCITIES IN SERBIA
700,000 VICTIMS

FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT


ROME, Monday (6:45 p.m.).
The Governments of the Allies have secured evidence and documents, which will shortly be published, proving that Austria and Bulgaria have been guilty of horrible crimes in Serbia, where the massacres committed were worse than those perpetrated by Turkey in Armenia.
[...] Women, children, and old men were shut up in the churches by the Austrians and either stabbed with the bayonet or suffocated by means of asphyxiating gas. In one church in Belgrade 3,000 women, children, and old men were thus suffocated. [...]"


Of course, today no historian claims that the Austrians or any of their allies ever committed mass murder with poison gas in Serbia during World War One. This was nothing but black propaganda issued by the British government and eagerly disseminated by the British media.

But juxtapose this with an article that appeared in the same London Daily Telegraph on June 25, 1942, p. 5, that is, five days before the Jewish owned and controlled New York Times reported about the alleged mass murder of Jews in German controlled Europe for the first time:

"GERMANS MURDER 700,000 JEWS IN POLAND TRAVELLING GAS CHAMBERS"

DAILY TELEGRAPH REPORTER


More than 700,000 Polish Jews have been slaughtered by the Germans in the greatest massacre in world history. [...]"

This time, however, we all know that these claims were true, don't we? And it is also true that at the end of the 20th century nobody would seriously accuse any country in the world of having built gas chambers and stocked Zyklon B to murder all Jews, hence, that the Jews would once more face a holocaust, an extinction of millions. After all, that was something uniquely German and 'Nazi,' which does not happen again, right?

If you think that it is obviously that nobody would make such outrageous claims, I have to teach you another quite astounding lesson: Let me bring up only two examples from a war that took place almost 50 years after the second holocaust propaganda started, in 1991. It is about America's first war against Iraq to drive Iraqi troops out of Kuwait. The New York based Jewish Press, then calling itself "The largest independent Anglo-Jewish weekly newspaper," wrote on its title page on February 21, 1991:

"IRAQIS HAVE GAS CHAMBERS FOR ALL JEWS"

Or take the front cover announcement of volume 12, number 1 (spring 1991), of Response, a periodical published by the Jewish Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles and distributed in 381,065 copies:

"GERMANS PRODUCE ZYKLON B IN IRAQ (Iraq's German-made gas chamber)"

If you do not believe it, turn to the Appendix, pp. 136f., for reproductions of the documents mentioned above.

I hope that you get the idea of this book: 1900, 1916, 1926, 1936, 1942, 1991...

In 1991, it was all invented, for sure, as were the later claims prior to America's second war against Iraq in 2003 that Iraq possessed or was about to possess weapons of mass destruction - Zyklon B not being mentioned here, though. But as Israel's renowned newspaper Ha'aretz proudly proclaimed:[25]

"The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history."

Because, as we all know, the Jews in Israel deserve preventive protection from annihilation by weapons of mass destruction - Zyklon B or not, invented or not...

So maybe not quite all claims referring to events between 1941 and 1945 are completely true? Maybe there is a chance after all that things were twisted, distorted, exaggerated, invented? Maybe...

If the reader has by now opened his mind to that possibility, I can only invite him to read about the arguments of those who do indeed claim that many things about the 'Holocaust' were twisted, distorted, exaggerated, and invented. If Heddesheimer's book is an eye-opener to you, which I think it will be, then I can only invite you to read even more tantalizing revelations, about which you can learn in the back of this book.

I think that Don Heddesheimer's book is a very important contribution to our understanding of the origins of modern time Jewish Holocaust claims. These claims are neither primarily Anglo-Saxon nor Soviet-Communist. The victorious nations of World War Two surely seized upon the opportunity to take advantage of such propaganda and to increase its scope and impact. But the original propaganda claims are Jewish-Zionist in nature and part of a propaganda pattern that started at the very dawn of the 20th century. And they have increased in intensity ever since due to their political success and the lack of resistance.

This book ought to remind us also of the simple fact that the truth is always the first victim of every war. It is surprising that so many people reject this, when it comes to the most atrocious war ever fought, during and even more so after which the truth was raped and murdered more often than ever before or after in mankind history: World War Two. Isn't it therefore likely that we were and are being told many more lies about this particular war than about all those other wars, where we all know that our government lied: World War One, Korea, Vietnam, and the wars against Iraq?




Notes

[1]
W. Benz (ed.), Dimension des Völkermords, Munich: Oldenbourg, 1991, p. 17.

[2]
German mainstream historian Martin Broszat from the Munich Institut für Zeitgeschichte did so while testifying as an expert witness for the Frankfurt Jury Court, May 3, 1979, Ref. Js 12 828/78 919 Ls.

[3]
For this, see my study "Discovering Absurdistan," The Revisionist 1(2) (2003), pp. 203-219.

[4]
W. Benz, op. cit. (note 1), p. 20.

[5]
Walter N. Sanning, The Dissolution of the Eastern European Jewry, Newport Beach, CA: Institute for Historical Review, 1983.

[6]
"Holocaust Victims: A Statistical Analysis. W. Benz and W. N. Sanning - A Comparison," in Germar Rudolf (ed.), Dissecting the Holocaust, 2nd ed., Chicago: Theses & Dissertations Press, 2003, pp. 181-213.

[7]
Stalins Vernichtungskrieg 1941-1945, Munich: Verlag für Wehrwissenschaften, 1995, pp. 160f.; English: Stalin's War of Extermination 1941-1945, Capshaw, AL: Theses & Dissertations Press, 2001, pp. 189f.

[8]
David Irving, Nuremberg. The Last Battle, London: Focal Point, 1996, pp. 61f.

[9]
Brighton: Historical Review Press, 1976. All following quotes are from the 3rd edition, Chicago, IL: Theses & Dissertations Press, 2003.

[10]
Ibid., p. 98.

[11]
Ibid., p. 99.

[12]
Ibid., p. 100.

[13]
Ibid., p. 101f.

[14]
Ibid., p. 103. This is the same Rabbi Hertz who already as early as 1922 referred to "1,000,000 human beings [...] butchered" during pogroms in the Ukraine, New York Times, January 9, 1922, p. 19; see p. 54 and Appendix, p. 117.

[15]
Ibid., p. 104.

[16]
Ibid., p. 105.

[17]
See Butz' chapter "The First 'Extermination' Claims and Washington," starting on p. 81 of his book, ibid.

[18]
Retranslated from the introduction of Walter A. Berendsohn to Thomas Mann, Sieben Manifeste zur jüdischen Frage, Darmstadt: Jos. Melzer Verlag, 1966, p. 18. I am grateful to R.H. Countess for bringing this to my attention.

[19]
Don Heddesheimer has published an earlier, shorter article on this topic: "Holocaust Number One - Fundraising and Propaganda," The Barnes Review, 3(2) (1997), pp. 19-24.

[20]
"Pogroms in Poland," New York Times, May 23, 1919, p. 12.

[21]
E.g., "Jews of Poland Again Face Period of Want", New York Times Sunday Magazine, May 28, 1926, p. 8.

[22]
"Tenenbaum quits Polish Group Here. Charges Anti-Semitic Policy Abroad in Resigning as Head of Good-Will Committee," New York Times, Nov. 20, 1931, p. 26.

[23]
"Racial Bias Viewed as Threat top Peace," New York Times, Feb. 22, 1932, p. 20.

[24]
"South Russian Jews Raise Strong Army," New York Times, December 20, 1922. It is possible that this claim is an exaggeration itself, though it is quite likely that Jews joined the armed forces of the early Soviet Union more eagerly than non-Jews.

[25]
Ari Shavit, "White man's burden," Ha'aretz, April 7, 2003; http://www.haaretzdaily.com/ hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279; see also Stephen J. Sniegoski, "War on Iraq: Conceived in Israel," The Revisionist, 1(3) (2003), pp. 285-298

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby ASMarques » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:19 pm)

When I talked about cabalistic numbers, I didn't really mean the 6 million were likely to be the product of conscious elaborate calculations of a mystical nature. The justifying calculations -- both mystical and pseudo-historical -- can always be done, whatever figure one desires to end up with, after the fixation of such a figure, true or false.

In the case of the 6 million, however, I meant simply that it was a round, good-looking figure, that complied very well with the symbolic propensities of the previous religion that was already there to accommodate every convenient propaganda allegation that would converge with its need of renewal. The origin of the figure is probably not a matter of religious cabalism in a precise conspiratorial sense. However, its persistence owes a good deal to that sort of thing.

My own feeling is we will now see a relative revival of Christianity -- as opposed to the still demoralized status of this Jewish-derived religion that kept the West in its iron grip roughly from the 4th cent. AD to the 18th cent. AD -- in the shadow of the cultural Judaism that prepares the ground for the "Holocaust" syncretism, in a sense a new world-class religion in the Abrahamic tradition.

And the old struggle will continue.

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby Drew J » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:05 pm)

In this thread, Mathis decided to deal with what I have posted in here about Judaism, Kol Nidre, etc. Here is his page.
http://spitecast.com/aemathisphd/draft.html

I quote relevant excerpts.
Second, I already conclusively proved that deniers have cherry-picked the six million figure from newspaper reports. See:

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... to_29.html

I think I have found what Mathis is talking about. He said this.

So "Dalton" asked me to check the New York Times and find references to six million Jews vs. references to other sums of millions. He suggested a date range from 1900 to 1945. I thought it more wise to end my search on August 31, 1939 -- one day before World War II began.

These are standard Boolean searches and can be replicated on the ProQuest NYT Historic databse. Here are the results:

5 documents found for: ("6 million Jews") OR ("six million Jews") AND PDN(>1/1/1900) AND PDN(<8/31/1939) 220 documents found for: ("million Jews") OR ("millions of Jews") AND PDN(>1/1/1900) AND PDN(<8/31/1939) AND NOT ("six million Jews") AND NOT ("6 million Jews") Not to put too fine a point on it, this is five references in the Times to six million Jews before the war began vs. 220 references to other sums in the millions. I.e., there are over forty times as many references to other figures. I think I made my point. Please publish this to the Web site. Roberto, you may do the same. -Andrew

All I can say to this is not even Don Heddesheimer (quoted at length here), would disagree that there were other numerical references other than the six million number. This is a small victory for you Andrew, if at all. Let's continue.

Third, EVERY NUMBER has significance in Judaism. Most importantly, there is a field of mysticism specific to mathematics called gematriya..

And the Tanak, or rather the first five books of the Old Testament, never have God saying this is acceptable, this occult practicing. The Israelities were punished for this kind of stuff. So trying to give it a biblical basis as you do below, is a mistake.

>Huh? German Reform Jews had removed the Kol Nidre for about seventy-five years before 1945, and after the war, they reinstated it.

Thanks for making my case for me, though I didn't need your help.


Often times in rhetoric, Drew, people will repeat an established point in order to then make a different point. For you to isolate the established point (i.e., that German Reform Jews removed the Kol Nidre in the 19th Century) and respond to it as if I'm trying to convince you of it is either intellectually disingenuous or stupid. Or perhaps both - I haven't decided yet.

Often times in rhetoric, people like you bring up an irrelevant point, or a point that makes the other side of the argument, but then you try to spin it somehow. The fact that Kol Nidre came back right after the war, is cause for concern. But you say no because the Kol Nidre has to do with vows of incitement or duress imposed upon a Jew or rather between Jews and God and is thus not a license to deceive gentiles. But I will disagree with you later as you will see below.

>Notably, American Reform Jews did not remove the Kol Nidre from Yom Kippur prayers, nor did any other denomination of Judaism, notably Conservative (largest denomination in America) and Orthodox (fastest growing denomination).

The German Jews put it back in. The non German Jews left it there.


It's a little more complicated that that. The German Reform Jews put it back in after the war. EVERYONE ELSE had never removed it in the first place.

German REFORM Jews? Okay. As if that makes a difference? I never disagreed everyone else always kept it. That just lends credence to my side about Kol Nidre's presence in Judaism. You are making a mountain out of a molehill and then claiming victory on something I never fought you over. That's a good distraction technique, but the readers on here aren't buying it.

I haven't gone to that link yet, but let me guess that this is going to be the "Kol Nidre gives Jews permission to lie to hapless goyim" argument.

[Andrew checks the site]

Well, what do you know? I was right!
Speaking of rhetoric (with nothing behind it)... or should I continue reading and give you a chance? Okay I will.

I'm going to try to make this easier for us both. I'm going to pre-suppose your responses to what I'm about to say, so we'll do this as a little playlet, OK? Sound fun? Good.

Certainly is better than actually tackling what I showed about that kabbalistic prophecy that says you will return minus six million isn't it? Sure is better than dealing with quotes like these
Zohar I 47a.
"Living soul" refers to Israel, who have holy living soulds from above, and "cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth" to the other peoples who are not "living soul", but who are as we have said.

"...Here it is plainly taught, that if a man has reason to fear any personal inconvenience, or even if he changes his mind, he may escape from the most solemn obligation that can be laid upon the consciences of men; and that, after appealing to God in confirmation of his declaration to do or to leave undone some particular action, one or more of his fellow sinners can remit his duty to his Creator, and give him a license to do the very contrary of that which he had promised before and unto God, that he would do."
- Hilchoth Sh'vouth, c. vi. 1,2.

"He that has a vow upon him, with respect to profit from his neighbour, is not to be absolved, except in that neighbour's presence. How is this proved? Rav Nachman says, it is proved by the words, 'And the Lord said unto Moses, in Midian, Go return into Egypt; for all the men are dead which sought thy life;' he said to him, In Midian thou hast vowed, go and get absolution from thy vow in Midian, for it is written, 'And Moses was content.' (Exodus 2:21). Now this word means nothing else but swearing, as it is written, 'And he took an oath of him.' (Ezek. 17:13) It is further proved by the words, 'And he also rebelled against King Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God.' (2 Chron. 36:13). What was the nature of his rebellion? Zedekiah found Nebuchadnezzar eating a live rabbit, whereupon Nebuchadnezzar said to him, Swear to me not to reveal this, nor to report the matter. Zedekiah swore, but afterwards he was grieved, and went and got his oath absolved and told. Nebuchadnezzar heard that they despised him, and sent and fetched the Sanhedrin and Zedekiah and said to them, Ye see what Zedekiah has done, although he swore by the name of God not to reveal the matter. They said to him, He got a dispensation from his oath. He said, Is it lawful, then, you get dispensation from an oath? They said, Yes. He said again, Is this to be done in the other's presence of absence? They say, In his presence...(Nedarim, fol. lxv. 1.)."

or even Alexander McCaul's quotes...

isn't it?


The oral law, and yes, the Talmud is part of that tradition, is designed to make sure Jews never break any biblical laws by imposing even stricter laws that prevent Jews from even getting close to breaking a rule.

Wrong, the Talmud has opinions and opinions on opinions and then finally a debate ensues and one is shown to be correct. Often times, the final rabbinic decision turns the intent of the bible on its head. But that's the way it is with the biblically, mosaically forbidden occult practices.

AM: First let me make the former point: Because Jews are forbidden to swear oaths at all (Orthodox Jews will always affirm courtroom oaths, e.g., rather than swear), having done so - to God, in particular - is particularly grievous. And yet Judaism is practical in that it recognizes that people are, um, human and are going to make mistakes. Thus the vows that Kol Nidre forgives are only vows that are made between a Jew and God.

Not according to the last Nedarim quote I gave and not according to McCaul's analysis. You disagree with his analysis, then dissect it. You had the chance since you apparently read everything in this thread up until this current post of mine. So why did you dodge it? Chicken?

Nevertheless, my challenge stands. I will also debate any topic regarding the Holocaust,

Apparently not on those Nedarim quotes and McCaul's analysis which, by implying you read this thread of mine means you read those too.

I haven't gone to that link yet, but let me guess that this is going to be the "Kol Nidre gives Jews permission to lie to hapless goyim" argument.

[Andrew checks the site]

Well, what do you know? I was right!),


So let's summarize what you have avoided. The Nedarim quotes. The McCaul analysis. The Zohar quote. The number six in relation to the kabbalistic prophecy.

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby Drew J » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:48 am)

First of all, the word "Tanakh" (note the final consonant as this is how we pronounce it, i.e., with the unvoiced guttural fricative and not the unvoiced guttural stop [yes, I studied some linguistics along the way]) is an acronym: T=Torah; N=Nevi'im (prophets); K=Ketuvim (roughly "holy writings"). So the term refers to much more than the Torah. But your point is a valid one, provided one has no idea what the argument about the Oral Law is in the first place.

See, the belief is that Moses received two Torahs on Mt. Sinai. He got the written one and he got an oral one also. If you look in Pirkey Avot, the lines about the transmittal of this oral Torah, from Moses to Joshua and so on, is what's dealt with in the very first lines.

I don't give a shit about the Talmud. This is about the OT. There is no justification for anything occult in the old testament. Nothing but babylonian rabbinic fantasy.

Since most people's study of Oral Law actually begins with Pirkey Avot, shall I assume you're familiar with it?

Anyway, within the context of the argument that the Oral Law goes together with the written Torah,

Says Jews whose only proof constitutes referring to stuff that is outside the written Torah.

what you've written above isn't true. Of course, the argument could be made that this is begging the question, but as long as I don't try to advance the argument outside of that rather narrow constraint, I'm still on relatively steady logical ground.

Nice try at projection, but claiming the old testament is incomplete, based on books that are outside of the old testament which already claim the old testament needs outside oral interpretation is what in fact begging the question. Unless you can show anyone in the old testament where god or moses gave permission to dabble in the occult, there is no justification for the rabbinic fantasies that make up the Talmud.

So the gist of your argument is that some practices that the oral tradition in rabbinic Judaism encompasses are equivalent to occult practices (or, rather, ARE occult practices). I'll grant that, as long as you'll also agree grant the Old Testament is pretty much bullshit anyway.

In one breath, the old testament is necessary as long as you put it together with rabbinic interpretations - their oral law. In the next breath, you say it's bullshit. Typical Jew. Old Testament - god's word - is crap. We need to the word of man. You claim to be a religious Jew who loves God, and then you shit on what is supposed to be God's word. Oh no you don't. God gave you the oral tradition too. Where is the proof in the bible? It's not in the bible you say. It's in the book that the rabbis wrote. Again, circular reasoning on your part. Your foundation can't be what you are trying to prove.

[Quote from Zohar on the hapless goyim utterly lacking souls]

NOTE: THIS REQUIRES A LENGTHY EXPLANATION. MUCH OF THIS KIND OF THING DOES. I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR LENGTH.

The nice thing about having debates like this is that it gives me a reason to check "quotes" like the above for accuracy.

Luckily the whole Zohar is online. Here's the page Drew J cites:

https://www2.kabbalah.com/k/index.php/p ... r&vol=1&se c=9

What do you know? Quote's not there.

A different numering system perhaps? I looked here:

https://www2.kabbalah.com/k/index.php/p ... r&vol=2&se c=68

No dice.

So I kept looking till I found it. You're welcome. It's at the bottom of this page:

https://www2.kabbalah.com/k/index.php/p ... r&vol=3&se c=113#913

What do you know? It looks like the quote's been misrepresented.

What Andrew Mathis is not going to tell his readers is that the zohar and the talmud have watered down versions for the Gentiles incase they figure out the Judaic bigotry in those texts. If he bothered to look anywhere, he would see that my quotation comes from a Ted Pike book. If he had that book, he would see Pike was using ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS OF THE ZOHAR THAT DIDN'T CENSOR THE ANTI GENTILE HATRED.

For example, the translators of the English Soncino version of the Talmud sometimes render the Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any number of disguise words such as "heathen, Cuthean, Kushite, Egyptian, idolater" etc. But these are actually references to Gentiles (all non-Jews). Footnotes for certain passages in the Soncino Talmud translation state: "Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted for the original goy..."

- Michael A Hoffman II

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html


and
For example, the translators of the English Soncino version of the Talmud sometimes translate the Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any number of terms such as "heathen, Cuthean, Egyptian, idolater" etc. But these are actually references to Gentiles (all non-Jews). In footnote 5 of the Soncino edition Talmud it is stated: "Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted for the original goy ..." Christians are sometimes referred to by the code word Min or Minim.
It is the standard disinformation practice of the Pharisees to deny the existence of the racist Talmudic passages we have cited, in order to claim that such passages are the "fabrications of 'anti-Semites'."
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apo ... closer.htm

Soncino itself admits to toning things down for Gentile consupmtion. Case closed Andrew you Pharisee.


First of all the proper citation is Zohar 1.171. I will note for the record that Drew J's numbering system is identical to everywhere else on the Internet where this "quote" appears, implying that few if any of these people have done their own research.

Drew J's "quote" reads thus: "...to the other peoples who are not living soul', [sic] but who are as we have said."

The translation I found reads: "...to the Idolatrous nations, which are not living souls. Rather, they are, as we have said, DRAWN FROM THE FORCES OF THE LEFT, WHICH DEFILE THEM." That's the Left Hand of God thingy in the Zohar, I think. Not really important here.

In the Talmud people who worship Jesus Christ are considered idolators. The rabbis in the Talmud hate Jesus Christ. Any Jewish argument that, "oh it's not that Jesus" is bullshit and has been refuted by Michael A Hoffman II in his book JUDAISM DISCOVERED, in which he provides many photocopies and scans of the hateful, anti gentile texts, even the ones that show hatred to Jesus and his apostles. As for forces from the left, guess who comes from there? Gentiles. Refer to my Ted Pike article I quoted which prove this. Now with those hateful anti gentile quotes about the klipoth in mind, maybe you can understand why kids are slaughtered in gaza and the west bank with no remorse and often no punishment. Therefore my interpretation of this quote IS accurate. After all, it's what was written in plain uncensored English translations of the Zohar which Pike curteously photocopied and put in his book.

I went to the Wikipedia article (in English) on the Zohar, switched over to Hebrew, and followed links to here:

https://sites.google.com/site/magartoratemet/zohar

where I downloaded the section of the Zohar dealing with Genesis. Didn't have the right fonts though so I went to mechon-mamre.org where I go to read Jewish texts in the original languages online. No Zohar there (although tons of Talmud -- you'd love it). So I decide to try to search the word in question by cutting and pasting it into a search engine. The Aramaic words that are translated as "idolatrous nations" are two words in Aramaic also. The first word is 'amin -- that's an easy one; it means "people."

And here I think, "Drew will probably argue that 'am is a different word than what Jews use for themselves. Nope: If you recall the Kahanist slogan "Am Yisrael Chai," i.e., "The People of Israel Survive," then clearly that's not the case.

Problem is the second word here has no diacritical marks. Can't pronounce it. It's spelled ayin-ayin-kof-vav-mem sofit -- and there are two hash marks between the resh and mem indicating that this is some kind of abbreviation.

A code word! Is Drew right? The word would be pronounced "akum." I Google this word and get several references. I'll summarize:

(1) Wikipedia says the word is an acronym for "worshippers of stars and constellations" and that it is used today mainly in kosher terminology to mean a non-Jew.

(2) Good ol' Father Pranaits agrees with this translation and says that the word is mainly used to apply to Christians.

(3) Another article (http://www.jewishpressads.com/printArti ... ntid=33491 ) says it was used to replace the word goy in some bowdlerized texts.

I'm pretty sure (3) is the correct answer for the time when the Zohar was written (Middle Ages in Spain) and I believe Father Pranaitis is also correct to some extent. Based on where he was at the time, if de Leon wrote the Zohar himself, then he was probably referring to Christians and someone somewhere along the lie replaced the word goy with akum.

So did I just prove Drew's point?

Not really because (recalling the idea of looking at these things within the context of Judaism) from de Leon's perspective, Christians really were idol worshippers who were thus on a spiritually lower plane than Jews. An interesting way to look at it would be to see whether such a term would be applied to non- Jews who worshipped the same God as the Jews do and don't worship Jesus (which disqualified all Christians right out of the gate). What are the contemporaneous views of Muslims? Take some time and read this article:



Actually you did prove my point. To quote yourself, "Based on where he was at the time, if de Leon wrote the Zohar himself, then he was probably referring to Christians and someone somewhere along the lie replaced the word goy with akum." Of course you deny it by this. "Not really because (recalling the idea of looking at these things within the context of Judaism) from de Leon's perspective, Christians really were idol worshippers who were thus on a spiritually lower plane than Jews." But this just proves my point. This is what is in the Zohar and this is what rabbis abide by and therefore Talmudic Judaism is racist since there has been no disavowal of what was written 'at that time.' "Context" is a typical exucse brought up by pharisee apologists, but ultimately, it leads nowhere as can be seen.
So the gist of the quote is this: it seems to be a code word for Christians. I'll settle on that. Medieval Judaism had some pretty retrograde opinions about Christianity. Considering how Medieval Christians felt about Jews, this is hardly surprising.

At least you're honest about the racism in the Zohar and Talmud. However you excuse as something of the past that is not relevant. Then why do you have rabbis who consistently speak from the talmud and Zohar and say things like this:


Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews
By JONAH MANDEL
10/18/2010 05:13

http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/Jewish ... ?id=191782


Oh you'll love this one.

Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro, who heads the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in the Yitzhar settlement, wrote in his book "The King's Torah" that even babies and children can be killed if they pose a threat to the nation.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed ... l-234.html


I guess that's why they can shoot arab kids in the head. Because they are amalek and will only grow up to destroy Israel. So the babies must die as well. Jewish academics have written things justifying collective punishment, which includes arab kids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY08-JuClb4
I am now warning you not to say that Hoffman takes quotes out of context or makes them up, because I have Hana Kasher's racist diatribe and I will quote it to you to show you up if you dare lie and say Hoffman is wrong in that video. Again, you have been warned.
Maybe that also explains all the house demolitions that are done to innocent people, well poisoning (1,2,3), and crop burnings that the Israelis do to Palestinians regularly? Not to mention how many Jewish only settlements in the west bank dump the majority of their untreated sewage unto Palestinian farms? Thereby forcing them to drink it in effect?
And you have the nerve to wonder why some Palestinians object to Israel's behavior and want to wipe it off the map? Because they don't see them stopping this bullshit anytime soon since Netanyahu wants to keep expanding the settlements? Even more Jews are starting to figure out how racist Israel is towards the Palestinians. But few know, that this behavior is straight out of the racist Talmud and Zohar. Because a lot of Jews who expose this stuff aren't even that religious anyway. At least they don't excuse such thuggish behavior.

As for McCaul, that is indeed interesting. Let me quote for the benefit of the reader
There is here a certain degree of honesty and plain dealing. The rabbis have determind that where one man swears and oath to another, he is not to be absolved, except in the presence of that other, and are in so far vastly superior in morality to those who hold and teach, not only that all oaths may be absolved, but that they may be absolved secretly, so that he who is most affected by dispensation, knows nothing about it. Bas as the oral law is, it does not descend to such a depth of hypocrisy and profaneness. Another trait which deserves notice is, that it does not teach that no faith is to be kept towards those who have got another religion, but expressly determinds, that if a Jew swear to a Gentile, he is not to be absolved without that Gentile's knowledge. We readily admit that this is greatly superior to a doctrine of dispensation, taught and practiced by some who call themselves Christians; but, having made this admission, and given the rabbis their due, we must also say, that the doctrine of absolution here taught is plainly contrary to reason and Scripture, and if extensively practised, would destroy all confidential intercourse or dealings with man and man.

Just suppose that the law of this country was, that any one who had entered into a solemn engagement with another, could be enabled to break it, simply, by calling up the person who whom he had made the promise before a magistrate, and by declaring, in his presence, that he repented of what he had done, who would ever trust another, or even value an oath? Not only would the commercial transactions of the country be at an end, but the very bounds of society would be rent asunder. The existence of human society depends upon that measure of confidence which a man can place in his brother, but if the Rabbinical doctrine prevailed and were acted upon, there could be no confidence more. A man's oath would be good for nothing, and if so, the value of his word still less. But, besides, this, the doctrine that a rabbi may absolve Simeon from his sword obligation to Reuben is absurd. If Simeon sear to Rueben a lawful oath, no one on earth but Reuben can release him; but here we are told that a rabbi, who has nothing at all to do with the matter, may remit the obligation. He might, with as much reason and with less profanity, undertake to absolve Simeon from his pecuniary debts. That the dispensation must take place in the presence of a party to whom Simeon swore, is but poor satiscation, and would not remove the inconvenience, nor diminish the guilt. Suppose, for instance, that Simeon should promise Reuben with an oath, that within a given time he would complete certain business, or lend him a certain sum of money, or any thing else of this kind, and that Reuben should arrange his affairs in dependence upon this oath, what satisfaction would it be to Reuben to be present at the absolution? It would not remove the inconvenience nor indemnify him for the loss to which the non-fulfillment of the oath exposed him, nor abate the vexation and sorrow which he must feel to see a teacher of religion, tampling upon the most solemn sanction with wihch religion guards the intercourse between man and man. For after all, the main objection to the doctrine is, that it allows what God forbids, as we shoed in the last number, and under the pretence of religion, makes perjury systematic.

So you are either lying when you said McCaul and Hoffman were wrong, or you are too stupid to have scrolled down and read it for yourself. You may also be condescending to me to think I wouldn't have read further to see if you were right or not. This is just but one piece of evidence of how the Talmud and the rabbis disrespect the laws of God as laid out in the Old Testament. So McCaul doesn't say what you are trying to say he says. Thus you are wrong about Hoffman being guilty of not quoting McCaul properly. The only thing Hoffman is guilty of, is not quoting ENOUGH of McCaul. Furthermore, Hoffman DID quote a bit from McCaul, which does show how the Sanhedrin absolved a man of his oath simply because it 'incconvenienced' him. Want me to quote it a second time? Okay I will.

This passage not only illustrates that doctrine of dispensation, but throws much light upon the character and knowledge of the men from whom the tradition is derived. In the first place, it shows a strange confusion of mind to derive, 'he was willing,' from 'he sware'; but it is stranger still, out of this mistranslation; but the most strange of all is, that anyone should be found who can believe this is a sufficient warrant for the doctrine of dispensation from an oath made to a fellow creature. If even it were true, as the rabbis say, that Moses had sworn to Jethro not to return into Egypt, still this is not a case in point; for Moses did not get absolution from any third person, but received express permission from Jethro himself to return, as we find in the chapter referred to, where it is said, 'And Moses went and returned to Jethro, his father in law, and said unto him, Let me go, I pray thee, and return unto my brethren which are in Egypt, and see whether they be yet alive. And Jethro said to Moses, 'Go in peace. (Exod 4.18) If there was any oath, we see that it was dispensed with not by a wise man, nor by any third eprson or persons, but by him to whom the oath was made. This passage is therefore, decidedly against the Rabbinic doctrine, and therefore the Rabbinic doctrine cannot be true.

The second case cited by the Talmud is still stronger, as a testimony, both against the system and the men. It tells us that Zedekiah swore to Nebuchadnezzar not to betray him in a certain matter, which no law, either of God or man, compelled him to divulge - that he swore by the name of the God of Israel, and yet that after this most solemn transcation, he did what he had sworn not to do. He betrayed a man from whom he had received kindness, and equally disregarded the obligations of gratitude and the sacred ties of an oath - in short, that he committed perjury. This is in itself bad enough; but the Talmud proceeds further to tell us, that this was not his own individual act, but the solemn decision of the Supreme Council of the Sanhedrin. Zedekiah did not perjure himself without having advice. He went to the Sanhedrin, and they absolved him from the obligation of the oath, and that contrary to their own maxim, that an oath sworn to a neighbour cannot be absolved, except in his presence.

Here, then, the Talmud plainly confesses that the Sanhedrin did wrong, in fact, that they were aiders and abettors in Zedekiah's perjury; that, therefore, they were men who had no regard for truth, and no fear of God; and consequently, that no man of any common sense would believe a single word that came out of their mouths. What, then, becomes of the whole fabric of Jewish tradition? It depends altogether upon the unimpeachable character of the various Sanhedrins through whose hands it passed. If, therefore, we should find that any one Sanhedrin consisted of notorious liars, the geuninenes of the oral law is at an end. But here the Talmud itself tells us that even before the deportation of Zedekiah, the Sanhedrin consisted, not of common liars, but of false swearers, of men who had so little regard for the name of the Lord, as to absolve a solemn oath of which thta name was the safeguard.

Talmudic deception from Andrew Mathis, UNMASKED!!!

(1) I need some authoritative citation for that "you will return minus six million" thingy. If the reference is only to R' Benjamin Blech's book, then don't bother. Barring some proof that Blech's point of view constitutes a majority opinion or is widely believed, it isn't relevant.

I don't know who Blech is. But I do know who Ben Weintraub and Robert L. Brock are. They wrote the holocaust dogma of judaism which I quoted from earlier. maybe this is the book and these are the authors you meant? Or you didn't make a name mistake and just ignored Weintraub and Brock? Whatever the case, this is about whether the interpretation of how the rabbis are alleged to have interpert that passage (rabbis get six million out of that prophecy) is correct. Don't insult it. Disprove it, regardless of who you think the authors are.

(2) I have asked for a single example of a Talmudic decision being opposed to a biblical commandment or law.

Here you go.
Br Nathanael: You say that the Talmud has made the Scriptures of none effect. How so?
Michael A. Hoffman: In the Gospel of Mark Chapter 7, Jesus rebuked the Pharisees saying, “You make the Word of God of none effect by your tradition that you have handed down.” There is little in the Talmud which refers to Old Testament Scriptures - but rather, teachings that are contrary to the Scriptures.
The Talmud teaches that a Jew may *kill, **steal, and ***lie to non-Jews with impunity -yet all of these actions are in violation of the 6th, 7th, and 9th commandments of Moses. Here is but one example of the Oral Law making the Word of God “of none effect.” [*Tractates Sanhedrin 58b; **Baba Mezia 24a; **Sanhedrin 57a; ***Baba Kama 113a]
There is also the Talmudic nullification of the sin of King David, by which sin, Christians have learned to shun the sins of adultery and hostility, reciting the penitent words of King David in Psalm 51. But the religion of Judaism will have none of this! For the Talmud states: “whosoever says King David sinned is mistaken.”
According to the Talmud the practice in those days for men going to war was to give their wives conditional divorces. The Talmud states that Bathsheba was no longer married and hence decrees that King David did not sin.
What the rabbis are actually saying is that it is God who is mistaken–yet the Word of God clearly declares that David sinned by killing Uriah the Hittite and committing adultery with his wife: “Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house because thou hast despised Me and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.” (II Samuel 12)


As for saying King David did not sin, Hoffman was not only giving readers of JUDAISM DISCOVERED the exmaple he just gave, he also quoted a Jewish newspaper which reiterated this sentiment. I'll dig up the reference for you later as I don't have it with me at the moment. Plus I already schooled you on the McCaul matter, so that should be sufficient evidence for showing how the Talmud and the rabbis are often opposed to the old testament.
(3) Last but not least, some yes or no questions. Let's see if you're any better able to answer these in a single word than your friend . You haven't actually read any of these materials yourself, have you? Only the parts "edited" for you by Hoffman et al. Right?

Not only does pike give photocopies of the racist anti gentile quotes from the English translated Zohar in his book ISRAEL OUR DUTY OUR DILEMMA, and not only do you not disagree with the hatred in those quotes (but you spin it as something of the past with no present relevance which I dispute above of course), but Hoffman also gives us photocopies and scans of things from the Talmud and the Zohar. He even quotes a lot from the STEINSALZ English translations of the Talmud which aren't as censored as Soncino. Perhaps that's why the Steinsalz was never completed last time I checked. They didnt' want the Gentiles learning too much. That and I completely exposed your anti McCaul bullshit. Your credibility on the matter is shot my friend.

Given that we have the Talmud and the Old Testament opposed to each other in many respects (of which I have only shown a sufficient few), I must ask you why God would give a written law and an oral law that are at odds with each other. God is not supposed to be the author of confusion.

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby The Warden » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:13 am)

Why the Holocaust Industry exists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A81P6YGw_c

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby Drew J » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:01 pm)

Thank you Warden.

You know, the argument from Mathis, well numerically speaking there were more claims of dead Jews that were NOT six million is irrelevant. Because that six million number was claimed, it has kabbalistic significance, AND ULTIMATELY THAT IS THE ONE THAT WAS SETTLED ON. How easy it is to understand. Of course Mathis, being the Talmudic supremacist that he is, thinks little of us goy and our intelligence and so he tries to get us to focus on some insignificant fact.

"But the fact that many claimed numbers that weren't six million proves there wasn't mass Jewish collusion" he would say.

Fair enough, but then why were the Warburgs, frontmen for the Rothschild bankers also claiming six million?

"The Sad Plight Of Jews" -NY Times 11/12/1919

Felix M. Warburg says that they were the worst sufferers in war

Felix M. Warburg, Chairman of the Join Distribution Committee of American Funds for Jewish War Sufferers, who returned several days ago from a trip to Europe for that organization, made public yesterday some of his findings.

"The successive blows of contending armies have all but broken the back of European Jewry," he said, "and have reduced to tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth.

http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/1351


The Rothschilds are big time Satanists according to Illuminati whistleblowers. Suppoesdly they have a lot of hexagrams and pentagrams inside their Waddesdon manor. I'm sure they are heavily into the kabbala as were the Warburgs. Most big movers and shakers are into that stuff. Especially masonry, of which gentiles and jews are a part of on the world stage. Zundel also got in trouble in 1985 for writing stuff about Freemasonry and their secret oaths. He was let not convicted on what he wrote about them fortunately.

Furthermore, let's quote something else from that page.

PROCESSES OF KABALISTIC TEXTUAL INTERPRETATION
Aside from the multiple processes of Notariqon—where every letter, or just the initials, medials, and finals, is taken to be a possible initial letter or abbreviation for another completely different word—or Temura, where each letter in a word or phrase is substituted for either the letter that precedes or follows it in the Hebrew alphabet, one of the leading principles in the Kabalistic interpretation of sacred Hebrew texts is called Gematria. This involves a mystical analysis of sacred texts that operates according to various numerological principles. Every Hebrew letter has a sound as well as a numerical value, so by adding together all the numerical values of each letter in a word or phrase, different interpretations and analyses of a text can be arrived at. For example, the Hebrew letter Shin, with the sound ‘sh’, also has the numerical value of 300, which equals the total numerical value of all the letters in the phrase Ruach Elohim (RVCh ALHIM), “the spirit (or breath) of the Elohim,” from Genesis 1:2 – R = 200, V = 6, Ch = 8, A = 1, L = 30, H = 5, I = 10, and M = 40; TOTAL = 300. In this way, the letter Shin, with its numerical value of 300, is interpreted by the Kabalists as symbolizing “the spirit (or breath) of the Elohim [‘the God(s)’].” It is this Kabalistic numerological process of Gematria which provides the “prophetic” Holocaust interpretation of a verse from the third book of Torah - Leviticus, Chapter 25: Verse 10. This six million number in the Jewish Holocaust narrative is a ‘sacred’ numerological figure which was also spoken of by the 12th century Jewish philosopher Moshe ben-Maimon, or ‘Rambam’ (Maimonides, 1135-1204).

“and you shall hallow the fiftieth year. You shall proclaim release (liberty) throughout the land for all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee (Heb: yobel, a ‘ram’s horn’) for you: each of you shall return to his holding and each of you shall return to his family.” (TORAH: Leviticus 25:10)

English translation from: TANAKH: The Holy Scriptures (The New JPS Translation According to the Traditional Hebrew Text). Philadelphia/Jerusalem: 1985, p. 196.

This phrase, “you shall return,” from Leviticus 25:10 is written in Kabbalistic versions of the Torah as “TShVU.” Grammatically, however, this phrase should have been written “TShuVU,” but the letter ‘Vav’, which should follow the letter ‘Shin’, is MISSING! Another part of this “prophecy” of six million burnt holocaust offerings, followed by a tribal homecoming, is formed by adding up the numerical values of this grammatically incomplete phrase.

‘Tav’ = 400
‘Shin’ = 300
‘Vet’ (or ‘Bet’) = 2
‘Vav’ (or ‘Vaw’, ‘Waw’) = 6
TOTAL = 708

When the year of the Hebrew calendar is written, the millennia number is always ‘5’, and is therefore never written (a kind of short-hand), so the 708 in this case can be interpreted by the process of Kabalistic gematria as referring to the year 5708, which just so happens to equal the Christian calendar date of 1948, the year when the modern State of Israel was declared.

The phrase (repeated twice) in Leviticus 25:10 – TaShuVU (“you shall return”) can now be interpreted according to the principles of Kabalistic gematria as –
“you shall return (lacking, minus, or without the 6[,000,000] in the year [5]708).”


Wow. Not only did they follow the number, but they made sure they got the year correct too. Hahahaha. Boy, Andrew Mathis isn't going to like this.

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby holographic » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:43 pm)

I do know that there's some high falutin' math going on over at ("if I'm correct") rodoh.

how come Eisenhower, De Gaulle, Churchill and everyone else who wrote about their time, never mentioned death camps, gas chambers or crematoriums? How come there was an increase in the population of a certain group from before the war to after the war? How come the Red Cross, which was the most in the know organization of anyone connected with the facts of the war and the camps, has one figure: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s5yaZ0Ye2Mo/R ... aage_1.jpg

How come the death count at Auschwitz was lowered by 3 million from 4.5 million to 1.5 million by the very people claiming six million and you still get six million?

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby Hannover » 6 years 4 months ago (Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:13 pm)

Here we have proof that unethical Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?

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Don't miss the '6,000,000 Jews' lie and the laughing Mexican:



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Re: The First Six Million - WHY THEY CHOSE THE NUMBER SIX

Postby NLH » 6 years 4 months ago (Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:46 pm)

This new video presentation by Germar Rudolf fits in nicely with this thread.

The First Holocaust: The Surprising Origin of the Six-Million Figure, 1st edition (July 2016)

Most people believe that roughly six million Jews were killed by National Socialist Germany during World War II in an event generally referred to as the Holocaust or the Shoah. But how long have we known about this six-million figure?

This video, based on Heddesheimer's book The First Holocaust, explores this issue in depth. It discusses sources from the 1800s and from the time prior to, during and after the FIRST World War claiming that six million Jews were about to be exterminated in a "holocaust." Watch it right here, or on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBnMtkbWPCs).

The most frequent answer to the question, "since when have we known" is that the six-million figure was established after the Second World War during the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg.

Although it is true that the six-million figure was declared to be the indubitable truth at this tribunal, it is actually remarkably older. In this book, Don Heddesheimer shows that the six-million figure dates back to a Jewish fundraising campaign that started during the FIRST World War and reached its peak in the mid-1920s. During those years, Jewish groups in the United States spread the rumor that millions of Jews in Europe were suffering to the degree that millions had died already, while many more millions would face a lingering death. The New York Times was the main vehicle for such propaganda, which even included well-known buzzwords like “extermination,” “holocaust,” and the now famous “six million” figure.

Although this exaggerated propaganda of Jewish suffering slowed down during the 1930s, it never completely ceased and received new momentum in the 1940s during the Second World War. As we all know today, this propaganda skyrocketed after Germany’s total defeat, as the victorious nations of the Second World War seized upon the opportunity to take advantage of such propaganda and to increase its scope and impact. Heddesheimer’s book clearly shows that the origin of the “six million” figure, together with “extermination” and “holocaust” claims, are Jewish-Zionist in nature and part of a propaganda pattern that started at the very dawn of the 20th century in order to promote Jewish political and financial goals, be they in Soviet Russia then or in Israel today. Since the end of World War Two, this propaganda has increased in intensity due to its political success and the successful suppression of resistance against it.

Buy this book here:

http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=6


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