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Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Werd » 8 years 5 months ago (Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:54 pm)

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Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment by Friedrich Jansson

Claude Lanzmann: There are no survivors of Belzec.
Jan Karski: There are a lot of them!


There have been many contradictory statements made by not only Karski himself, but also some liberties with his statements in different places have been taken with certain editors trying to piece together what really happened. Did he visist Belzec? Did he visist a camp that was close to Belzec but he was mistaken? Did others claim Karski visited another camp he mistook for Belzec because this would fix problems in the emerging/developing holocaust narrative? Did Karski intentionally make some things up to hide his cover? Did he go along with fake atrocity stories about Belzec just so Poland could please the Jews and make the Jews in England and America could help Poland out since they were sandwiched between Germany and the Soviet Union, both of whom invaded Poland? Are revisionists like Mattogno and exterminationists like Hilberg not spending enough time on the Karski story - something that is not totally their fault since this man and his story has been a mystery from almost day one?

I leave a few block quotes from Friedrich Jansson to tease the reader.


2. The Izbica Thesis

As previously discussed, Karski’s statements that he had seen Belzec as a transit camp, coupled with his newfound celebrity, put traditionalist Holocaust scholars in an uncomfortable position. Accepting that Belzec actually was a transit camp was out of the question. Calling Karski a liar was politically inconvenient, and would set a dangerous precedent. Consequently, they elected not to reject Karski’s story altogether, but to change his destination. The location they seized on was Izbica, a Jewish town located between Belzec and Lublin.

The principal support for their argument was that some versions of Karski’s story from 1943 describe a visit to a camp a certain distance from Belzec, and distinct from the Belzec camp itself. As they interpreted the texts, the visit to Belzec was only a late addition to his story. As Karski’s biographers E. Thomas Wood and Stanislaw Jankowski put it:

The village Jan reached was not Belzec, nor did Jan think it was while he was there. When he first spoke of this mission after reaching London three months later, he described the site as a ’sorting point’ located about fifty kilometers from the city of Belzec - although in the same statement he referred to the camp’s location as "the outskirts of Belzec." (The actual Belzec death camp was in the town of Belzec, within a few hundred feet of the train station.) In an August 1943 report, Karski at first placed the camp twelve miles, then twelve kilometers outside of Belzec. By the time he began retelling his story publicly in 1944, the town he reached had become Belzec itself. [...]

Jan was in the town of Izbica Lubelska, precisely the midway point between Lublin to the northwest and Belzec to the southeast - forty miles from each locality. Izbica was indeed a "sorting point"; Karski had this fact right and the distance from Belzec nearly right in his earliest report.18


The claim that the destination of Karski’s visit was in fact Izbica is taken for granted in the more recent literature.19

However, as we have seen, Karski’s visit to Belzec – or, on the new understanding, to Izbica – can be dated to September, most likely early September. Is it possible that Karski visited Izbica at that date and saw a transport being loaded with Jews?

If this were to be true, the first requirement would clearly be that there actually was a transport departing Izbica at around this date. Consultation of standard sources readily confirms that there was not. The lists of transports in Yitzhak Arad’s standard book on the Reinhardt camps contains no transports departing Izbica between May 15 and October 22, 1942.20 A more recent list of all transports to and from Izbica contains some transports missing from Arad’s book, but confirms that no transport departed Izbica at any time even approximating the date of Karski’s visit.21 Thus, the Izbica thesis fails on simple matters of chronology. Jan Karski cannot have visited Izbica and witnessed a transport of Jews being loaded to depart, because no transports of Jews departed Izbica at the time he allegedly visited. In contrast, Belzec was at the peak of its activity at the time of Karski’s visit.

While the fact that Karski’s description of his experience does not match the reality of Izbica in time is sufficient to refute the Izbica thesis, it is worth observing that his description does not match the reality of Izbica in place either. Karski’s descriptions of the camp he visited consistently maintained that it was entirely fenced in. For example, in the 1943 pamphlet Terror in Europe, Karski’s account describes the camp as “bounded by an enclosure which runs parallel to the railway track”,22 and his 1944 book Story of a Secret State elaborates that it was “surrounded on all sides by a formidable barbed-wire fence” and well-staffed by guards.23 Izbica, however, was not a closed ghetto. It was surrounded neither by walls nor barbed-wire fences.24 Therefore Karski’s account cannot be of Izbica.

Looking at Karski’s full story makes the geographic contradiction between Karski’s story and Izbica even clearer. As Karski described his trip, he took the train to a town from which the Jews had been removed. There he met his contact, a Belzec guard, with whom he walked to the camp. The geography of Karski’s story, therefore, consists of an Aryan town and a nearby fenced-in camp that dealt with Jews. This matches the reality of Belzec Town and Belzec Camp. It does not match the reality of Izbica, which was an almost entirely Jewish settlement. As the Izbica native Thomas Blatt described it, Izbica was a “typical shtetl” with a prewar Polish population of only two hundred,25 where Jews and Poles lived together even during the war.26 Robert Kuwalek quotes a Jew who was deported to Izbica and described it as not a ghetto but “a purely Jewish town where no Poles lived”.27 While Kuwalek notes that this statement is inaccurate, as “several dozen” Polish families lived in Izbica at that time, the description nevertheless illustrates just how dramatically different Izbica was from the town which Karski described visiting. Karski visited an Aryan town with a nearby fenced-in camp, while Izbica was an unfenced Jewish town without a nearby fenced-in camp. The two could hardly be more different.

We have seen that the Izbica thesis is impossible on both chronological and geographical grounds. Moreover, the internal logic of Karski’s story contradicts the idea of a visit to Izbica. As he described his visit to Belzec/Izbica, it was arranged by the Jewish underground, who wished to show him the full extent of the persecutions of the Jews so that he could speak in their cause as a direct eyewitness when he arrived in London. Therefore they decided to send him to Belzec, which they had identified as an extermination camp. Jewish organizations had in fact identified Belzec as an extermination camp, but they had made no such identification of Izbica. For Jewish leaders to wish to obtain a witness to Belzec, which they conceived as an extermination camp, is perfectly logical. According to one report, the Jews had sought a witness to Belzec exterminations as early as April 1942, and were willing to pay any witness who would give such testimony.28 Their motivation for desiring a witness to a seeming extermination camp is understandable, but given that Karski had already seen the Warsaw ghetto, there was no reason for them to exert themselves in sending him to see the Izbica ghetto.

Nor does it make sense that Jewish leaders would arrange a trip to Izbica for Karski while telling him that he was going to Belzec. Even the possibility that Karski might have ended up visiting Izbica by mistake in spite of the fact that a visit to Belzec had been arranged is ruled out by the fact that Karski describes making a prearranged rendezvous with a Belzec guard, which would have been impossible in the event of a mistaken location or a last-minute change in plans. It is also unlikely that Karski could have been seriously confused about his location. As one author has stated, “[s]ince Karski was very familiar with Polish geography, it is difficult to see how he could have erred.”29 Karski knew the area well. He had attended the University of Lvov, just 45 miles from Belzec.30 In December 1939, he had seen an earlier camp for Jews located near Belzec. He had described this camp in a 1940 report, and mentioned the town of Belzec by name, correctly locating it “on the boundary of the territories occupied by the Bolsheviks.”31 The supposition that he confused Belzec with Izbica is far-fetched.

Although the preceding arguments easily show that the Izbica thesis is totally untenable, they still leave some questions unanswered. Was the location of Belzec really a late addition to Karski’s story? Why are there versions of Karski’s story that describe visiting a “sorting point” rather than Belzec? Finally, did Karski really go to Belzec or did he not? The remainder of this paper will answer these questions.

And here is just one more.
5. The Falsehoods in Karski’s Accounts

The next main goal of this paper is to understand the reason that Karski started out claiming to have gone to Belzec, then claimed to have visited a camp (not Belzec) some distance from Belzec, and then again claimed to have visited Belzec. Before we launch into this question, it’s worth stopping to analyze some simpler features of Karski’s accounts which have caused unnecessary controversy.

False dates

Raul Hilberg, Michael Tregenza, and Carlo Mattogno have argued against Karski’s visit to Belzec based on the assumption that it took place in October.45 As we have seen, Karski visited Belzec in September. However, the confusion is understandable, as Karski himself repeatedly gave the former date. Why did he do so?

One possible answer is that it was a simple mistake. This explanation, however, fails to explain the times that Karski claimed to have visited the Warsaw ghetto in January 1943 and left Poland the following month,46 or claimed to have visited Belzec at the end of 1942 and traveled to London in early 1943.47 In his meeting with President Roosevelt, Karski even claimed to have left Poland in March 1943.48 Indeed, there was a broader effort among the Poles to falsify the date of Karski’s departure from Poland, and Karski was not the only one to report this falsely.49

Why did Karski give the original false date, of having departed Poland in late October? His biographers suggest that it was to make his information seem more fresh.50 This was doubtless one reason, but when speaking to a Jewish audience, however, another factor entered the picture, namely the Poles’ desire to gain Jewish support for the Polish position on their eastern border by creating the impression that the Polish government was highly active and concerned on behalf of the Jews. By moving back the date of his departure from Poland, Karski gave the impression that he had hurried to carry the Jews’ news, sometimes even claiming that he had made the trip from Warsaw to London in record time. This story was in keeping with the impression the Poles wanted to make on a Jewish audience, while the reality - that he spent considerable time waiting around in Paris for the right moment to go to London - would not have.

Death trains

Karski’s most attention-getting claim was that the Jews loaded onto the train at Belzec were killed on the trains with some kind of disinfectant, perhaps quicklime, which had been spread on the floor of the wagons.51 As we will see below (Section 7), Karski freely admitted in postwar interviews that during the war he believed that Belzec was a transit camp from which Jews were taken for forced labor. He also accepted that the disinfectant was for the purpose of disinfection rather than extermination, thereby admitting that he had not truly believed in the extermination of the Jews by train, which was simply a piece of speculative atrocity propaganda.

6. Karski’s Wartime Accounts of His Trip

Now we turn to our main question: where did Karski say he went? Why are there versions of his story that claim a visit to a “sorting point” fifty kilometers from Belzec?

Examining this question requires that we look at how the trip is described in all major wartime versions of Karski’s story. They are:

•December 5, 1942 Schwarzbart telegram reporting on December 4 meeting with Karski. States that he went to Belzec.52

•March 1, 1943 story in The Ghetto Speaks, published by the American Representation of the General Jewish Workers Union of Poland (the Bund),53 a slightly different version of which appeared in the March 1943 edition of Voice of the Unconquered,54the newsletter of the Jewish Labor Committee. Describes visiting a “sorting point” fifty kilometers from Belzec, at which some Jews are killed in “death trains” and others sent on to Belzec, where they are killed with poison gas or electricity.

•May 1943 story, written by Arthur Koestler55 on the basis of discussions with Karski and later broadcast on the BBC.56 Stated that Karski visited the camp of Belzec, which was located 15 kilometers south of the town of Belzec.

•Minutes of August 9, 1943 meeting in New York between Karski and Jewish organizations. Says that the camp Karski visited was 12 miles from Belzec, then says it was 12 kilometers from Belzec.57

•Story of a Secret State, published November 1944.58 Reports traveling to Belzec, meeting his contact at a shop, and walking via an indirect route for 20 minutes or 1.5 miles to reach the Belzec camp.59


This series of accounts confirms what was noted above, that Karski’s story developed from a trip to Belzec, to a trip to a camp some distance from Belzec, then back again to a trip to Belzec. There are four texts which place Karski at a distance from Belzec: the pair of articles from March 1943, the Koestler broadcast, and the minutes taken by the Representation of Polish Jewry. On closer inspection, however, the March 1943 articles can be split off from the other two, as unlike the latter two, they explicitly distinguish Karski’s destination from Belzec.

The March 1943 articles

The two March 1943 articles printed in Jewish publications in New York contain both the earliest published version of Karski’s story, and the only version of his story which distinguished the camp he visited from the Belzec camp. They are clearly derived from a common text, but edited differently. These articles were not authored by Karski, although they do derive from his report. Even Karski’s biographers recognize that parts of the story “appear to have been embellished for propaganda purposes or distorted for security reasons”.60

The most characteristic feature of these stories is their attempt to distinguish the destination of Karski’s trip from Belzec, and to reconcile the two within a common framework. They state that many of the deported Jews “die before they reach the ‘sorting point’, which is located about 50 kilometers from the city of Belzec”,61 and claim in Karski’s voice to have visited this location:

In the uniform of a Polish policeman I visited the sorting camp near Belzec. It is a huge barrack only about half of which is covered with a roof. When I was there about 5,000 men and women were in the camp. However, every few hours new transports of Jews, men and women, young and old, would arrive for the last journey towards death.62


Karski himself never gave this version of the story. Nor did he ever claim to have visited the camp in Polish uniform. As he was acutely aware of the Poles’ need to curry favor with Jewish groups by creating the impression that Polish-Jewish relations were more favorable than they actually were, it is extremely unlikely that Karski would ever have told a story involving a Polish death-camp guard.

The story adds an explicit reconciliation between Karski’s story and the then standard account of Belzec:

Because there are not enough cars to kill the Jews in this relatively inexpensive manner many of them are taken to nearby Belzec where they are murdered by poison gases or by the application of electric currents. The corpses are burned near Belzec. Thus within an area of fifty kilometers huge stakes are burning Jewish corpses day and night.63


Again, Karski never told this story himself. As Wood and Jankowski correctly deduced, the story, though derived from Karski’s account, has been altered, although they were mistaken about how it was altered. The purpose of the alterations was to reconcile Karski’s experience with the story, then current, of the Belzec electricity/gas extermination camp, as can be seen in the fact that the passages which make this reconciliation do not appear in any other source, and do not match any claim made by Karski himself. The editors, however, slipped up in leaving in a description of the camp as located “on the outskirts of Belzec”. This description is incompatible with the description of the “sorting camp” located 50 kilometers from Belzec. A location 50 kilometers from London might perhaps be described as “on the outskirts of London”, or a location 50 kilometers from New York as “on the outskirts of New York,” but Belzec was only a small town. A location 50 kilometers from Belzec would no more be described as “on the outskirts of Belzec” than Austria would be described as “on the outskirts of Belgium.” The same goes for the text’s reference to the camp as being located “near Belzec”, when Belzec was much too small a place to be the point of reference for a location 50 kilometers away. These passages clearly reflect an earlier version of the text, before it was altered to send Karski to a different location.

While the editing could have been done in New York, it seems more likely that the story had already been altered in London. Thanks to the British censors who intercepted and preserved Schwarzbart’s telegram, we know that Karski came to London claiming to have entered the Belzec camp. Examining the context of his arrival will allow us to see how events likely proceeded. At the time of Karski’s arrival in London in late November of 1942, the campaign which culminated in the Allied declaration of December 17, 1942 was already underway. Ignacy Schwarzbart, the author of the December 1942 telegram which is the first written record of Karski’s visit to Belzec, played a key role in this campaign. Schwarzbart, whom Karski later remembered as "a professional politician and a bit of a manipulator,"64 was at the time already involved in spreading the story of extermination at Belzec. According to The Black Book of Polish Jewry, on November 15 he had declared that

An electrocution station is installed at Belzec camp. Transports of settlers arrive at a siding, on the spot where the execution is to take place. The camp is policed by Ukrainians. The victims are ordered to strip naked ostensibly to have a bath and are then led to a barracks with a metal plate for floor. The door is then locked, electric current passes through the victims and their death is almost instantaneous. The bodies are loaded on the wagons and taken to a mass grave some distance from the camp.65


A document containing the same language came to the British Foreign Office on November 26,66 and the New York Times reported similar67 remarks concerning electrocution at Belzec made by Schwarzbart on November 25.68 Other reports circulating at the time, some of which had appeared in the Polish government organ Polish Fortnightly Review just days before Schwarzbart met with Karski,69 also mentioned Belzec as a place of gassing or electrocution. It cannot have taken Schwarzbart very long to realize that Karski’s story of Jews departing Belzec by train, even if only to be killed on the train, contradicted his story of the Jews arriving at Belzec all being electrocuted or gassed in the camp.

Karski, consequently, was a dangerous witness, whose story did not fit into the account being spread by the Poles and Jews at the time, and which was therefore not particularly wanted. Indeed, Karski’s experience played no role whatsoever in the Polish activities that surrounded the Allied declaration of December 17, 1942, in spite of the fact that he was the only eyewitness to the Reinhardt camps on hand in any Allied country. In fact, the Polish government-in-exile carefully restricted Karski’s contacts in London for months after his arrival,70 and never arranged to have him inform the British about his experience in Belzec. Meanwhile the Allied declaration went forward with the pointed omission of any mention of the Reinhardt camps, which were relegated to the realms of print and broadcast propaganda, where they were covered without any input from Jan Karski, the only eyewitness on hand.

In short, Karski came to London with an account of his visit to Belzec that contradicted the preexisting propaganda about that camp. He told the Jewish members of the Polish National Council the story of his visit, but they were already engaged in advancing a different story about Belzec, one in which it was an extermination camp that killed with electricity or gas. In spite of the fact that their story was not supported by any eyewitness from within the camp, they continued with their campaign while keeping silent about Karski’s information. They could not but realize the danger inherent in Karski’s account of Belzec, which so dramatically contradicted the stories they were spreading. Naturally, they sought a way to defuse this danger, and came up with the solution of resolving the contradiction between the two stories by placing them at different locations. The articles in The Ghetto Speaks and Voice of the Unconquered are the result. While the alterations to Karski’s story were most likely made within Polish Jewish circles in London,71 the articles were published not in London but in New York so as to avoid the possibility that Karski would read and contradict them. The expedient worked: as far as I have been able to discover, he remained completely unaware of them.

In light of this background, the odd fact that Schwarzbart’s diary does not mention Karski until March 16, 1943, which caused David Engel to conclude that the two had not previously met, becomes perfectly understandable. Karski’s story was a threat to the propaganda campaign which then occupied Schwarzbart’s attention. Schwarzbart only felt comfortable mentioning Karski in his diary after the American Jewish publications The Ghetto Speaks and Voice of the Unconquered had published the latter’s story in a form that explicitly reconciled it with the official version of Belzec by locating his visit in a “sorting camp near Belzec” rather than in Belzec itself and contrasting the “death train” method that Karski saw with the extermination “by poison gases or by the application of electric currents” that took place in Belzec. By that time, the Allied declaration and the wave of propaganda that surrounded it was a fait accompli, and the danger posed by Karski’s information had been defused.

The distance problem

While Karski was unaware of the two articles of March 1943, he was quite familiar with the next source, a story written by the Hungarian Jew Arthur Koestler at the suggestion of SOE chief Lord Selbourne, and on the basis of discussions with Karski himself. The piece clearly stated that Karski visited “the camp of Belzec.”72 However, it also stated that “[t]he camp of Belzec is situated about 15 kilometers south of the town of that name,”73 a seriously excessive figure. Karski could not have so described a camp at that location thus, because following the railroad south for 15 kilometers from Belzec would have brought him to Rawa Ruska, a much larger city. Had Karski visited a camp at that location, he would not have described the camp as 15 kilometers south of Belzec, but as on the outskirts of Rawa Ruska.

The same kind of excessive reported distance occurs in the fourth and final “problematic” source, the minutes taken by the Representation of Polish Jewry of an August 9, 1943 meeting between Karski and Jewish organizations, which again did not differentiate the camp Karski visited from Belzec, but placed it first 12 miles and then 12 kilometers from the town.

These sources do not, however, originate directly from Karski, and when he gave his own account of his trip, he said that he walked for 20 minutes from his rendezvous point in the town of Belzec to get to the camp,74 which is entirely realistic, particularly given that he avoided the main paths. This still leaves the question of why there are second-hand accounts giving an excessive distance. There are several possible explanations. One is that Karski simply did not have a head for distances. He would be far from the only person with this disability. This possibility is supported by the fact that he gave a hugely exaggerated estimate of the camp’s size.75 On the other hand, he gave a much more realistic (though still overstated) estimate of the distance as 1.5 miles in his account of his Belzec trip,76 which suggests that the authors of these two texts may have exaggerated for reasons of their own. While Koestler was in direct contact with Karski and consequently could not follow the New York publications in saying that the latter had visited some location other than the Belzec camp, he was still aware of all the different claims being made about extermination methods, and made sure to smooth over the contradictions, saying that the Jews were killed in Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka “by various methods, including gas, burning by steam, mass electrocution, and finally, by the method of the so-called ‘death train’’’,77 and putting an endorsement of the other accounts into Karski’s mouth:

I myself, have not witnessed the other methods of mass killing, such as electrocution, steaming, and so on, but I have heard first hand eye-witness accounts, which describe them as equally horrible.78


Karski did not actually claim to have heard such first-hand accounts, but the remark served to ensure that all the different extermination methods could live happily together. Given Koestler’s concern with ensuring this, it is possible that he altered Karski’s description of the distances to set up the possibility that the conflicting reports about Belzec referred to different locations. The same applies to the Representation of Polish Jewry, which was actively involved in spreading stories of extermination and would have known perfectly well that Karski’s account conflicted with the usual version of Belzec. Of course, this is mere speculation, but it serves to highlight why these second-hand sources do not give any real support to the thesis that Karski visited a location other than Belzec. The decisive factor is that Karski’s first-hand accounts give the location of the camp more accurately.

Another feature to notice is that the texts which place the camp Karski visited somewhere beyond easy walking distance (12 or 15 kilometers, or 12 miles) from the town of Belzec never specify how he got there, or how he returned afterwards. In sharp contrast to this, the wartime texts Karski himself authored, as well as his postwar interviews, are very clear that he met his contact at a shop in the town of Belzec and walked a short distance to the Belzec camp.

Though it is a second-hand source, the Schwarzbart telegram also refutes the reports of excessive distances by placing Karski in Belzec itself. No one who knew the area as Karski did would describe a location 15 kilometers south of Belzec (or 12 miles or kilometers away) as being in the tiny town of Belzec. As this is the earliest source on Karski’s trip, it refutes any notion that he first claimed to have gone to a camp quite some distance from Belzec but subsequently changed his story upon learning the true location of the Belzec camp.

In summary, we have shown that there is no warrant in the wartime sources to support the idea that Karski visited a camp other than Belzec. We have explained the two sources that make this claim as clumsy alterations of Karski’s story meant to harmonize it with the required story of Belzec extermination camp. The two sources that simply place Karski’s destination an excessive distance from the town of Belzec can be explained either in terms of an attempt at reconciling stories or by his poor sense of distances, and are trumped by the more accurate information about Belzec’s location in his first-hand accounts.

I hope people took notice of this:

It cannot have taken Schwarzbart very long to realize that Karski’s story of Jews departing Belzec by train, even if only to be killed on the train, contradicted his story of the Jews arriving at Belzec all being electrocuted or gassed in the camp.

Karski, consequently, was a dangerous witness, whose story did not fit into the account being spread by the Poles and Jews at the time, and which was therefore not particularly wanted. Indeed, Karski’s experience played no role whatsoever in the Polish activities that surrounded the Allied declaration of December 17, 1942, in spite of the fact that he was the only eyewitness to the Reinhardt camps on hand in any Allied country.

As one will see in section 7, which I will not quote, Karski, like others, believed many Belzec Jews went to Sobibor to die. Karski also claimed that Belzec was a death camp at one time but when he managed to get there, he saw it function as a transit camp in a way. Karski too was busy trying to reconcile what he saw, with what was being developed as holocaust history. The way that Lanzmann abused him and cut his entire interview with Karski from his film is also interesting food for thought.
As he repeatedly stated, he was very puzzled at the fact that his experience at Belzec did not fit with the officially sanctioned version. Faced with this confusion, he groped after whatever explanation he could find.
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Werd » 8 years 5 months ago (Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:04 pm)

Given what Friedrich Jansson has uncovered about Karski and his behaviours in changing many things about his alias one day from the next for perceived security reasons, it is understandable why exterminationists as well as revisionists have gotten things wrong about Jan Karski. The whole thing was muddled from the beginning and Friedrich Jansson has taken the time to sift through all the documents and the details about Karski. So he would be in a better position to know what really happened in 2014, as opposed to what Carlo Mattogno suspected ten years ago when writing the book on Belzec. A book which doesn't even mention Karski that much to begin with. Mattogno was more focused on the archaeological evidence and the early false propaganda reports. Some of which Karski apparently contradicted, and that was a big no-no for the Polish propaganda organs.

9. Addressing the Arguments against Karski’s Accounts

Karski is almost unique in having been attacked as a witness by both Holocaust revisionists and traditionalists. These critics have seized on inaccuracies in Karski’s statements in order to argue that Karski never visited Belzec. We will now address the arguments in turn.

Karski says that he saw Jews from the Warsaw ghetto in Belzec, but Jews were never deported from Warsaw to Belzec

Both Carlo Mattogno102 and Raul Hilberg103 comment on the fact that Karski asserts that the Jews he saw at Belzec were from the Warsaw ghetto,104 while Jews deported from Warsaw actually went to Treblinka, not Belzec. But Karski never claimed to have talked to the Jews in the camp, or to have received any precise information about their place of origin. His statement that they were from the Warsaw ghetto was simply an understandable, though incorrect, inference on his part. He had been in Warsaw, where he had met with Jewish leaders who told him about the large scale deportations from the Warsaw ghetto and the transport of the deported Jews to death camps. These Jewish leaders in Warsaw then arranged for him to visit one of these death camps, Belzec. Having received a briefing from Jewish leaders in Warsaw which centered on the liquidation of the Warsaw ghetto, it is entirely unsurprising that when he saw thousands of Jewish deportees in Belzec, whose origin he had no way of determining, he associated them with Warsaw. It is also worth noting that the reports sent by Jewish organizations in Warsaw to the Polish government in exile in London stated that the deportees from Warsaw were sent to Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka.105 These reports, in particular the reports originating in Warsaw, had a strong tendency to equate the Warsaw ghetto with Polish Jewry as a whole.106 Karski’s incorrect assumption that the Jews he saw in Belzec were from the Warsaw ghetto is therefore entirely typical of his context.

Karski describes Belzec as being located on a plain, when in fact it is on a hillside

Carlo Mattogno observes that Karski locates Belzec “on a large, flat plain”107 while it was in fact on a hillside.108 But the slope of the hillside at Belzec is really quite insignificant.

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Figure 2: Belzec. Despite the slope, it is perfectly plausible that an observer would describe this location as a plain.

In her book Hitler’s Death Camps, Konnilyn Feig describes visiting Belzec, and states that the camp “was located on a barren, flat plain.”109 While this description may be imprecise, it is not grounds for doubting that she visited the camp. Likewise with Karski.

Karski reported entering Belzec disguised as a guard of Baltic nationality, but the non-German guards at Belzec were Ukrainian

Raul Hilberg points out that while Karski claimed to have entered Belzec disguised as a guard of Baltic nationality, most or all of the non-German guards were in fact Ukrainians.110 Carlo Mattogno makes a similar argument, asserting that Estonian guards never served at Belzec.111 Here Karski’s descriptions are simply the result of his concern for security, which caused him to modify the details of his experiences in order to protect his contacts and the contacts of his associates. As his biographers explained,

At various times later in the war, Karski said he had worn Latvian, Lithuanian, and Estonian uniforms. He falsified the nationality for security and perhaps political reasons. ’If I wrote Estonian," he explained in an interview, "certainly it couldn’t be Estonian. It would be idiotic of me to expose the [underground] Jews’ connections with the guards in that way".112


Karski’s paranoia over security was so strong that he was even known to alter the nationality he assumed at Belzec from one day to the next.113

Karski gave the location of Belzec imprecisely

Carlo Mattogno notes that Karski’s description of the location of Belzec is inaccurate, stating that “Karski did not even go to the trouble to check the location of Belzec. He places it at a distance some 160 km east of Warsaw, whereas in reality it is nearly 300 km to the south-east of the Polish capital.”114 The same error in location was noted by David Silberklang.115 As mentioned above, Karski was in fact perfectly familiar with the location of Belzec, having seen an earlier camp there in late 1939, as recounted in his 1940 report. There are two possible explanations for the inaccuracy in location. The first is that Karski was again altering the details of his story in the hope of protecting sources, just as he altered the nationality of the guards. This thesis might be opposed on the grounds that such alterations would hardly be an effective measure of protecting sources. But Karski was clearly very into his role as a secret agent, to the point that when detained by the British on his arrival in London he did not even give his real name,116 and continued to use pseudonyms even when dealing with government officials.117 Clearly he was the kind of man who might alter details for security’s sake without giving too much thought to whether the alterations really did increase security.

The second possibility is that Karski simply did not bother to look at a map, or think it worthwhile to give locations precisely. The reports in question were written for a mass audience, which could not be presumed to be interested in the details of Polish geography. When writing for such an audience, why bother with the details of “east” versus “south-east”? As for the inaccurate distance, there is no real reason that Karski would have known the exact distances between even places with which he was familiar. After all, he was not driving between them, and when getting around by train exact distances play a much smaller role. Under these circumstances, whether a writer gets a distance right is more a matter of whether he checked a map than whether he visited a location.

Karski was supposedly gotten into Belzec by bribing one of the guards, but the guards were rich

Carlo Mattogno argues that “the very basis of [Karski’s] story – that the camp guards could be bribed – is in flagrant contradiction to their being described, in the report of July 10, 1942, and others, as having “lots of stolen money and jewelry” and being able to pay 20 gold dollars for a bottle of vodka.”118 This objection rests on the assumption that the newly wealthy are insusceptible to bribery, which is hardly confirmed by experience. Indeed, one might even argue that increased riches increase the desires of their possessor,119 and therefore that the newly found riches of the Belzec guards would make them more susceptible to bribery.

Karski could not have entered Belzec because the security was too tight

Raul Hilberg doubts that it would have been possible for Karski to enter Belzec, even in uniform.120 This claim is contradicted by the results of Michael Tregenza’s research with the villagers in the town of Belzec, which has established that security at Belzec was in fact extremely lax. Contrary to Hilberg’s claim that a uniform and a helper among the Belzec guards would not suffice to get into Belzec, a uniform may not even have been necessary. Belzec’s poor security was known to Jewish leaders, who assured Karski that “chaos, corruption, and panic prevailed” in Belzec, so that getting in would present no difficulty at all.121

Karski’s description of the uniform he wore is contrary to the actual uniforms worn by guards at Belzec

While discussing the visit to Belzec, Claude Lanzmann asked Karski what color his uniform was. Karski replied “Yellow. With a kind of parity (? ) boots, black cap I remember.” As it is sometimes claimed that the auxiliary guards at the Reinhardt camps wore all black uniforms, we might appear to have proof that Karski did not visit Belzec. More recent research has contradicted the claim that all guards at the Reinhardt camps wore black uniforms, and revealed that the uniforms worn by the guards at the Reinhardt camps varied considerably.122 Karski’s description of a “yellow” uniform should be understood as meaning some sort of khaki, or “butternut.” Indeed, Michael Tregenza quotes the notes from a 1981 interview in which Karski described the uniform as consisting of “Khaki tunic, black trousers and boots”.123 This description does not conflict with what is known about the uniforms worn by the guards at the Reinhardt camps. In fact, former Treblinka prisoners testifying at the trial of Feodor Fedorenko at around the same time as Karski’s interview with Lanzmann recalled the uniforms of the Ukrainian guards as greenish khaki,124 brown khaki,125 or some black and some khaki.126 In view of the considerable variability of accounts of the uniforms of the Ukrainian guards given by individuals who saw these uniforms on a daily basis for months, Karski’s description of the uniform that he wore for less than a day certainly cannot be used to discredit his account.

Mattogno is to be commended for taking Kola to the woodshed with his first edition of Belzec, his article "Belzec and the holocaust controversy of Roberto Muehlenkamp" and his book on Aktion Reinhardt with Graf and Kues. Friedrich is to be commended for spending more time on Karski than others to assist in solving that puzzle while other revisionists set about refuting other absurd claims. What Jan Karski's article reveals to me is that when revisionists claim Jan Karski never set foot in Belzec, they may in fact be doing the other side a favour. After all, it was people on 'the other side' that relagated Jan Karski's testimony of Jews LEAVING Belzec to the dust bin of history since it did not suit their propaganda.

In other words, when Carlo Mattogno quotes a testimony in his Belzec book running from page 29-30 in his book talking about how Karski himself claimed to have seen quicklime put in trains to kill Jews, he is dealing with a manipulated source with Jan karski's name on it. As stated in section 5
Death trains

Karski’s most attention-getting claim was that the Jews loaded onto the train at Belzec were killed on the trains with some kind of disinfectant, perhaps quicklime, which had been spread on the floor of the wagons.51 As we will see below (Section 7), Karski freely admitted in postwar interviews that during the war he believed that Belzec was a transit camp from which Jews were taken for forced labor. He also accepted that the disinfectant was for the purpose of disinfection rather than extermination, thereby admitting that he had not truly believed in the extermination of the Jews by train, which was simply a piece of speculative atrocity propaganda.

In other words, Mattogno rightly rejected this claim under Karski's name, but he did it without knowing what we now do about Karski thanks to this article by Friedrich Jansson. He rejected it for good reasons, but he could have rejected it for better ones if Friedrich's article had been written years ago when Mattogno was putting his Belzec book together.

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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Reviso » 8 years 5 months ago (Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:38 am)

Thanks for the link to this interesting text of Friedrich Jansson.
Jansson says that the declarations of Karski to Lanzmann about Belzec were cut from the film and he gives as reference : "Lanzmann interview". (See his note 79.)
Does anybody know where this interview was published ? Thanks in advance.
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Postby Reviso » 8 years 5 months ago (Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:09 am)

An interesting fact is that the "editor" of Karski's book (1944) was none other than Emery Reves, the "editor" of the spurious "Hitler speaks" of Hermann Rauschning, and of the even spurious "I paid Hitler", of Fritz Thyssen. According to the French 2010 edition of Karski's book ("Mon témoignage devant le monde", p. 19), Reves forbad Karski to criticize the USSR, allowed himself to make the text more attractive and demanded the helft of the royalties.
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 8 years 5 months ago (Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:36 am)

Reviso wrote:Jansson says that the declarations of Karski to Lanzmann about Belzec were cut from the film and he gives as reference : "Lanzmann interview". (See his note 79.)
Does anybody know where this interview was published ? Thanks in advance.
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You'll find film footage and "Lanzmann's original transcript" here:
http://www.ushmm.org/online/film/displa ... e_num=4739

Reviso wrote:An interesting fact is that the "editor" of Karski's book (1944) was none other than Emery Reves, the "editor" of the spurious "Hitler speaks" of Hermann Rauschning, and of the even spurious "I paid Hitler", of Fritz Thyssen. According to the French 2010 edition of Karski's book ("Mon témoignage devant le monde", p. 19), Reves forbad Karski to criticize the USSR, allowed himself to make the text more attractive and demanded the helft of the royalties.
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W. E. Stegner in The Uneasy Chair: A Biography of Bernard DeVoto states that Reves was the "agent or representative of the author Jan Karski," but whatever his precise role in Karski's book, the fact he was involved at all is interesting.

Emery Reves nee Rosenbaum was also the friend and and publishing agent of Winston Churchill, who wrote of Reves in 1940:

I have long thought very highly of Mr. Reves' abilities in all that concerns propaganda and the handling of the neutral press.
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Reviso » 8 years 5 months ago (Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:55 am)

Thanks for the answer !
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Reviso » 8 years 5 months ago (Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:24 am)

First, sorry for my bad English. When I wrote that Emery Reves demanded "the helft of the royalties", I intended "half" instead of "helft".

Now, the article of Jansson contains many interesting facts and remarks, but I have doubts as to its main thesis. This thesis is that Karski really saw the camp of Belzec and, since he described it as a transit camp, that Belzec was thus a transit camp and not an exermination camp.

Jansson notes that Karski, in "his" 1944 book, "gave a hugely exaggerated estimate of the camp’s size".
He also writes :
"Raul Hilberg points out that while Karski claimed to have entered Belzec disguised as a guard of Baltic nationality, most or all of the non-German guards were in fact Ukrainians. Carlo Mattogno makes a similar argument, asserting that Estonian guards never served at Belzec. Here Karski’s descriptions are simply the result of his concern for security, which caused him to modify the details of his experiences in order to protect his contacts and the contacts of his associates. As his biographers explained,
' At various times later in the war, Karski said he had worn Latvian, Lithuanian, and Estonian uniforms. He falsified the nationality for security and perhaps political reasons. "If I wrote Estonian," he explained in an interview, "certainly it couldn’t be Estonian. It would be idiotic of me to expose the [underground] Jews’ connections with the guards in that way" '.
Karski’s paranoia over security was so strong that he was even known to alter the nationality he assumed at Belzec from one day to the next."

Mmm... I would like to test another hypothesis : the war propaganda carried fantastic tales about an unnamed Pole who allegedly had secretly visited the camp of Belzec. These tales were somewhat contradictory, a common feature in propaganda tales. If I'm not wrong, Karski himself never said in his war time reports (I don't speak of his 1944 book) that he had visited the camp of Belzec. Then, he falls in the hands of Emery Reves (born Rosenbaum), the editor of "Hitler speaks", a spurious book of Hermann Rauschning, and of "I paid Hitler", of Fritz Thyssen; it is officially hold by academics that Reves added false elements to Thyssen's declarations. According to the French 2010 edition of Karski's book ("Mon témoignage devant le monde", p. 19), Reves acted as "editor" of Karski's 1944 book. He allowed himself to make the text "more attractive" and demanded half of the royalties. Thus, we have a solution of the problem : the chapter of the book with the visit to Belzec was written by Reves, as a part of the collaboration that earned him half of the royalties. The errors in the tale, difficult to explain if they came from Karski, are more likely under the pen of Reves, who seeked above all "attractiveness". Karski complied, exactly as he had complied when, in 1940, the Polish Government in exile had asked him to write an alternative version of a report, replacing the hate of many Poles towards Jews by a feeling of solidarity. I presume that Karski, when interrogated about the untruths in the chapter of "his" book, couldn't answer : "Oh ! I never visitedt the camp of Belzec, I was forced to let Mr. Reves put this in the book." After all, Reves knew perhaps that Karski had written a rather antisemitic report in 1940, and Julius Streicher was hung for antisemitic allegations...
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Reviso » 8 years 5 months ago (Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:50 am)

Sorry for posting many times in a row, but this passage from Jansson's argumentation seems weak to me :

"Carlo Mattogno notes that Karski’s description of the location of Belzec is inaccurate, stating that “Karski did not even go to the trouble to check the location of Belzec. He places it at a distance some 160 km east of Warsaw, whereas in reality it is nearly 300 km to the south-east of the Polish capital.”114 The same error in location was noted by David Silberklang.115 As mentioned above, Karski was in fact perfectly familiar with the location of Belzec, having seen an earlier camp there in late 1939, as recounted in his 1940 report. There are two possible explanations for the inaccuracy in location. The first is that Karski was again altering the details of his story in the hope of protecting sources, just as he altered the nationality of the guards. This thesis might be opposed on the grounds that such alterations would hardly be an effective measure of protecting sources. But Karski was clearly very into his role as a secret agent, to the point that when detained by the British on his arrival in London he did not even give his real name,116 and continued to use pseudonyms even when dealing with government officials.117 Clearly he was the kind of man who might alter details for security’s sake without giving too much thought to whether the alterations really did increase security."

This error about the situation of Belzec seems more likely coming from Reves than from Karski. (I made a similar argument in my preceding post, but less convincing.)
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 8 years 5 months ago (Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:44 pm)

Reviso wrote:Now, the article of Jansson contains many interesting facts and remarks, but I have doubts as to its main thesis. This thesis is that Karski really saw the camp of Belzec and, since he described it as a transit camp, that Belzec was thus a transit camp and not an exermination camp.

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If I'm not wrong, Karski himself never said in his war time reports (I don't speak of his 1944 book) that he had visited the camp of Belzec.


Jansson's discovery of the "Schwarzbart telegram" proves irrefutably that Karski stated that he visited Belzec from the beginning.

3. The Earliest Report of Karski’s Visit

Authors supporting the Izbica thesis have supposed that Karski’s first accounts describe a visit to a camp some distance from Belzec. This claim is refuted by a telegram sent by Ignacy Schwarzbart, one of the two Jewish members of the Polish National Council, the day after he met with Karski. The telegram, which was preserved because it was copied by the British censors, has been largely ignored, despite its obvious importance.

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The telegram records a three-hour meeting the previous day between Schwarzbart and a special official envoy gentile, evidently Jan Karski, who told Schwarzbart about visiting the Warsaw ghetto in August and in September visiting Belzec where he witnessed mass murder of one transport of six thousand jews.

The telegram confirms that Karski reported visiting Belzec from the beginning.
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Reviso » 8 years 5 months ago (Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:49 am)

"evidently Jan Karski"
Is it really so evident that this Pole was Karski ? Jansson says that Jewish organisations had offered money for a testimony about Belzec. There could be other candidates than Karski. And, even if it was the presence of Karski that led to the story of Karski's visit to Belzec echoed by the telegram, it could be the result of an error (or of a lie independent from Karski). As Jansson shows, there are many errors in the propaganda tales about this visit to Belzec. And, if I'm not wrong, Karski never said in his war time signed reports that he had visited the camp of Belzec (but that should be verified).
But my essential point is not that Karski never said (before the book) that he had seen the camp of Belzec, I can contemplate that he said it, but I disagree with Jansson's idea that he not only said it but said it sincerely (which is the basis of Jansson's argumentation in order to conclude that Belzec was indeed a transit camp). Karski had already put in circulation an "alternative version" of his 1940 report (this is official history), thus he was not a so scrupulous propagandist.
As I said, the way Jansson explains the error about the situation of Belzec in "Karski's" book is not convincing, this error is more likely under the pen of Reves.
Thus, in my opinion, either Karski lied (as Mattogno thinks) or he permitted that others lied about him. In Jansson's hypothesis that Karski said and said accurately that he had visited the camp of Belzec, and wrote it himself in "his" book, the untruths in this book (situation of Belzec, nationality of the guard...) don't receive a satisfactory explanation. Jansson's explanation by security paranoia doesn't seem convincing to me. (Jansson acknowledges that, at least in one case, the alleged security measure brought no security.)
My conclusion : back to Mattogno.
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 8 years 5 months ago (Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:10 am)

Reviso wrote:"evidently Jan Karski"
Is it really so evident that this Pole was Karski ? Jansson says that Jewish organisations had offered money for a testimony about Belzec. There could be other candidates than Karski. And, even if it was the presence of Karski that led to the story of Karski's visit to Belzec echoed by the telegram, it could be the result of an error (or of a lie independent from Karski). As Jansson shows, there are many errors in the propaganda tales about this visit to Belzec. And, if I'm not wrong, Karski never said in his war time signed reports that he had visited the camp of Belzec (but that should be verified).
But my essential point is not that Karski never said (before the book) that he had seen the camp of Belzec, I can contemplate that he said it, but I disagree with Jansson's idea that he not only said it but said it sincerely (which is the basis of Jansson's argumentation in order to conclude that Belzec was indeed a transit camp). Karski had already put in circulation an "alternative version" of his 1940 report (this is official history), thus he was not a so scrupulous propagandist.
As I said, the way Jansson explains the error about the situation of Belzec in "Karski's" book is not convincing, this error is more likely under the pen of Reves.
Thus, in my opinion, either Karski lied (as Mattogno thinks) or he permitted that others lied about him. In Jansson's hypothesis that Karski said and said accurately that he had visited the camp of Belzec, and wrote it himself in "his" book, the untruths in this book (situation of Belzec, nationality of the guard...) don't receive a satisfactory explanation. Jansson's explanation by security paranoia doesn't seem convincing to me. (Jansson acknowledges that, at least in one case, the alleged security measure brought no security.)
My conclusion : back to Mattogno.
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Mattogno, I hear, said that Jansson's article is very convincing.

And to be honest Reviso, none of your objections are within a country mile of being a coherent argument.
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Reviso » 8 years 5 months ago (Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:45 am)

TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:
And to be honest Reviso, none of your objections are within a country mile of being a coherent argument.


My main objection is that the untruths in "Karski's" book are unlikely if the report in this book was really written by Karski and if Karski was sincere. The explanation given by Jansson, i.e. that Karski suffered from security paranoia, is not convincing, since Jansson acknowledges that, in at least one case, the security measure brought no security. Thus, for me, Karski lied or permitted that others lied about him. In the case of the book, he let Reves write an "attractive" tale about Belzec. Perhaps he pointed out untruths, but too late, or perhaps he didn't protest because Reves didn't show him the last state of the book. (Reves also put in the mouth of Thyssen things that Thyssen had not said.)

In "his" book, Karski says that he saw the lime used to kill the Jews and that they screamed under this torture. Are we also expected to believe this ? And is that a mere transit camp ?

I don' think that my vision is incoherent. But, of course, I don't pretend that it is absolutely convincing.
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Werd » 8 years 5 months ago (Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:47 pm)

In "his" book, Karski says that he saw the lime used to kill the Jews and that they screamed under this torture. Are we also expected to believe this ? And is that a mere transit camp ?

I don' think that my vision is incoherent. But, of course, I don't pretend that it is absolutely convincing.

In "my" post here, I clearly provide a quote where Karski admits he never saw this.
Death trains

Karski’s most attention-getting claim was that the Jews loaded onto the train at Belzec were killed on the trains with some kind of disinfectant, perhaps quicklime, which had been spread on the floor of the wagons.51 As we will see below (Section 7), Karski freely admitted in postwar interviews that during the war he believed that Belzec was a transit camp from which Jews were taken for forced labor. He also accepted that the disinfectant was for the purpose of disinfection rather than extermination, thereby admitting that he had not truly believed in the extermination of the Jews by train, which was simply a piece of speculative atrocity propaganda.

How could you have missed that? How could you also have missed Jansson's explanations as to why karski sometimes had to tell little white lies that are ultimately inconsequential to his obvious presence in Belzec where he saw people being transported OUT?

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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Reviso » 8 years 5 months ago (Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:37 am)

Werd wrote:
Death trains

Karski’s most attention-getting claim was that the Jews loaded onto the train at Belzec were killed on the trains with some kind of disinfectant, perhaps quicklime, which had been spread on the floor of the wagons.51 As we will see below (Section 7), Karski freely admitted in postwar interviews that during the war he believed that Belzec was a transit camp from which Jews were taken for forced labor. He also accepted that the disinfectant was for the purpose of disinfection rather than extermination, thereby admitting that he had not truly believed in the extermination of the Jews by train, which was simply a piece of speculative atrocity propaganda.


Well, when somebody objected to him that exermination by lime was a myth (and an impossibility), he acknowledged that "his" book contained "speculative atrocity propaganda". In fact, this propaganda is not so "speculative": it is well said in the 1944 book that the Jews screamed under the lime torture. Thus Karski lied or was an accomplice to lies.

How could you also have missed Jansson's explanations as to why karski sometimes had to tell little white lies that are ultimately inconsequential to his obvious presence in Belzec where he saw people being transported OUT?


You allude perhaps to the "security paranoia" thesis. See above why I don't believe it. I fear that such explanations are wishful thinking : "Yes, he lies sometimes, but when he says things so beneficial to our thesis, he tells the truth."
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Re: Jan Karski's Visit to Belzec: a Reassessment

Postby Reviso » 8 years 5 months ago (Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:45 am)

TheBlackRabbitOfInle has objected to me the telegram of 5 December 1942, where Schwarzbart says that he has met the preceding day with an unnamed "gentile escaped" who claimed to have seen the Warsaw ghetto and the murder of 6,000 Jews in the camp of Belzec.
Jansson mentions that, according to David Engel, Schwarzbart's diary doesn't speak of Karski before 16 Mach 1943, and only about a remark of Karski concerning the relative positions of Jews and Poles, not as a source of vital information. Engel (who, apparently, didn't know of the telegram) argued that if Schwarzbart noted in his diary a minor remark of Karski, he certainly would have noted the story of the secret visits to the Warsaw ghetto and to Belzec, if Karski had told it to him.
This raises the following question : did Schwarzbart speak in his diary, on the date of 4 or 5 December 1942, of the "gentile escaped" who, according to the telegram, told him so extraordinary things ? I have no access to the diary, but I presume that if Schwarzbart's diary had spoken of the unnamed "escaped" and of his tales on the date of 4 or 5 December 1942, Engel wouldn't have made his argument.
In this hypothesis, how can this silence in the diary be explained ? Jansson has an explanation : Karski contradicted a version put in circulation by Schwarzbart. But why, then, did Schwarzbart speak of the "escaped" and of his testimony in his telegram ?
I propose another explanation. Jansson writes : "Schwarzbart, whom Karski later remembered as 'a professional politician and a bit of a manipulator,' "
What if the manipulator Schwarzbart invented the content of his telegram ? And if his story flourished in the propaganda, always with an unnamed gentile witness ? And if finally Emery Reves baptized the witness as Karski ?
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