Is belief in the "Holocaust" story harmful to Jews' mental health?

[Lamprecht]

First, I recommend checking out my thread about the most important aspect of being Jewish (especially the quotes at the bottom) as well as an adjacent topic on White leftists and how the "Holocaust" story impacts their mental health.

Ever since Ye/Kanye West's statements about the Jews on Twitter, I made my first Twitter account and started replying to discussions about Jews. Oddly enough I was only suspended once, for 12 hours. I have been able to discuss "anti-Semitism" with dozens of Jews and read the responses many of them have with news stories about Jews in the media.

Some observations I have made in the past few weeks:

• Jews often call out "anti-Semitic" statements (anything critical of them) in a way that tries to phrase it as an issue that non-Jews should care about. They expect gentiles to defend them. When I ask "Why should gentiles care?" I never get a straightforward response. I'm just called names ("Nazi" and "anti-Semitic") and/or the "Holocaust" is brought up.

• Jews will equate speech with violence. When you point out that the USA has freedom of speech and there's nothing wrong with someone sharing their opinion, since they can disagree, they will say that it leads to violence. There is all sorts of violence in society, why is [allegedly] speech-motivated so much more important? Violent lunatics will always commit violent acts, it could be blamed on anything. Again, I'm called names and/or the "Holocaust" is brought up.

• When confronted with "anti-Semitic" content, Jews' most common reaction is to act as if someone is holding a gun to their head. I have yet to see a single Jew concede and admit that there are bad elements among the Jewish elite.

• When there is undeniable evidence that Jews collaborate and cause problems for gentiles, they will either claim that these Jews obtained their power fairly by outcompeting gentiles or that these are just groups of individuals (that happen to be Jews).

• Blacks frequently appear baffled as to why Jews become enraged when their power and influence are mentioned. (See an example from Ye in 2013 with the ADL)

• When Jews try to shame Blacks into caring about their alleged oppression (which is actually a criticism of Jews), Blacks frequently bring up slavery and Jewish social success. Jews appear unable to respond to Blacks in a coherent and convincing manner.

• When I explain to Jews that "anti-Semitism" arose historically in response to [real or perceived] Jewish behavior, I am accused of "justifying the Holocaust." When I bring up the hundreds of prior expulsions and pogroms, I'm usually told that this is primarily a defect of the gentiles. I'm called names if I ask why they choose to live among gentiles despite allegedly developing hatred for Jews for no reason.

• When I try to explain to Jews that censoring people does not stop them from having "anti-Semitic" thoughts, but may actually make more people hate them, they act as if they do not understand.

Has anyone experienced anything similar? I feel as thought it would be possible to write a script for a bot to behave in the way these Jews do. If the argument gets overloaded, just continually accuse them of being a "Nazi" or "anti-Semite."

Hannover made a thread years ago asking if higher rates of mental illness among Jews is responsible for much of the absurd testimonies. I don't know if anyone has ever investigated whether or not belief in this "Holocaust" story promotes mental illness among Jews. It's an important question because, at least in the United States, most Jews are atheists who believe in this story.

What do you all think?

[borjastick]

Jews themselves cause untold mental damage to their own offspring by bringing them up in a feeling of hysterical belief that everyone out there, all non jews, hate them and want them dead. Then they indoctrinate these same children in the holocaust and pile it on forever such that all jews appear to believe every word of it, lap it up and never ever question any of it.

No wonder they have mental health problems.

Imagine a generation of jews not told anything about the past and their holocaust. Imagine how better off mentally they would feel and how they may be lighter, brighter of spirit and amenable to those non jews around them.

[Lamprecht]

Jews themselves cause untold mental damage to their own offspring by bringing them up in a feeling of hysterical belief that everyone out there, all non jews, hate them and want them dead. Then they indoctrinate these same children in the holocaust and pile it on forever such that all jews appear to believe every word of it, lap it up and never ever question any of it.

No wonder they have mental health problems.

Imagine a generation of jews not told anything about the past and their holocaust. Imagine how better off mentally they would feel and how they may be lighter, brighter of spirit and amenable to those non jews around them.

It is also alleged to not merely the worst thing to happen to Jews, but the worst thing to ever happen in history. That is something Blacks tend to struggle to agree with, given slavery. Most of their arguments are specially tailored to work only on Whites. It's also a rhetorical trick used to shut down discussion of "anti-Semitism" for the purpose of declaring a Jew automatically correct.
Example:

(News story about Ye (Kanye West) claiming Jews dominate in the media)
Jew: That is horrible, he needs to be silenced!
Gentile: Why? He's just sharing his beliefs, it's free speech.
J: This sort of speech leads to violence, this is what Hitler said before the Holocaust!
G: But maybe Jews do have disproportionate power in the media, so it's reasonable to discuss it.
J: Are you actually justifying the Holocaust? Why do you want to exterminate the Jews?

This happens far too often. They will never budge from that position. I have tried all sorts of things. There is no explanation for "The Holocaust" beyond Hitler not being stopped earlier. To even suggest that the behavior of Jews could have contributed in any way is heresy. They were merely "scapegoated" and not even discarded when it was convenient. Deep into the war he continued to demand the Germans go to the ends of the earth to find these "scapegoats" and ship them off to fake shower rooms.

[hermod]

Yes, the Holocaust is harmful to Jews' mental health. But it also makes them better Zionists. The anti-Zionist Jews and the non-Zionist Jews virtually disappeared after WWII and the massive amount of Holohoax propaganda disseminated in the West (especially among the Jewish communities). The 'Never Again' Holocaust lie is probably the best rallying cry ever devised by any political organization.

[borjastick]

Yes, the Holocaust is harmful to Jews' mental health. But it also makes them better Zionists. The anti-Zionist Jews and the non-Zionist Jews virtually disappeared after WWII and the massive amount of Holohoax propaganda disseminated in the West (especially among the Jewish communities). The 'Never Again' Holocaust lie is probably the best rallying cry ever devised by any political organization.

Not sure those two groups disappeared at all. There are many jews around the world, millions in my view, that dislike the jewish state and the very notion of a jewish ethno state. They also really dislike the way israel behaves and what it has turned into.

Jewish Voice for Peace is guided by a vision of justice, equality and freedom for all people. We unequivocally oppose Zionism because it is counter to those ideals.

We know that opposing Zionism, or even discussing it, can be painful, can strike at the deepest trauma and greatest fears of many of us. Zionism is a nineteenth-century political ideology that emerged in a moment where Jews were defined as irrevocably outside of a Christian Europe. European antisemitism threatened and ended millions of Jewish lives — in pogroms, in exile, and in the Holocaust.

https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/zionism/

[hermod]

Yes, the Holocaust is harmful to Jews' mental health. But it also makes them better Zionists. The anti-Zionist Jews and the non-Zionist Jews virtually disappeared after WWII and the massive amount of Holohoax propaganda disseminated in the West (especially among the Jewish communities). The 'Never Again' Holocaust lie is probably the best rallying cry ever devised by any political organization.

Not sure those two groups disappeared at all. There are many jews around the world, millions in my view, that dislike the jewish state and the very notion of a jewish ethno state. They also really dislike the way israel behaves and what it has turned into.

Jewish Voice for Peace is guided by a vision of justice, equality and freedom for all people. We unequivocally oppose Zionism because it is counter to those ideals.

We know that opposing Zionism, or even discussing it, can be painful, can strike at the deepest trauma and greatest fears of many of us. Zionism is a nineteenth-century political ideology that emerged in a moment where Jews were defined as irrevocably outside of a Christian Europe. European antisemitism threatened and ended millions of Jewish lives — in pogroms, in exile, and in the Holocaust.

https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/zionism/

Such tiny impotent groups are no contest and represent a very small number of Jews. You can easily find a tiny non-representative lunatic fringe of any movement if you know where to look for it. I know some neo-Nazi cucks who oppose anti-Semitism.

Before and during WWII, most Jews were anti-Zionist or non-Zionist Jews and influential Jews such as the owner of the New York Times were avowed anti-Zionist Jews.

[Merlin300]

Hannover made a thread years ago asking if higher rates of mental illness among Jews is responsible for much of the absurd testimonies. I don't know if anyone has ever investigated whether or not belief in this "Holocaust" story promotes mental illness among Jews. It's an important question because, at least in the United States, most Jews are atheists who believe in this story.

What do you all think?

Hello Lamprecht- Interesting observations on a wide variety of subjects. Thank you.
I am commenting on Hannover's thoughts.
Yes, the twisted sick Holocaust Tales have a very, very damaging to everyone who believes or has to heard them.
They are promoted by Zionists to promote distrust, fear, and hatred of non-Zionists and to justify the oppression of Palestinian
groups. All divisive and harmful effects.
Several Jewish friends have all been affected by the horrible victimization tales even though they recognized the exaggerations
and exploitation of the actual tragedies. I know people who came back from a "Holocaust Tour of Eastern Europe" and promptly fell into an
intense depression.

But of course! Think if you were told stories that all your neighbors and friends really hate you and will suddenly turned on you, wanting to murder you and your family and make them into soap!
While I do not oppose the State of Israel, Zionism is no more than a hateful racist system fueled by untrue and unbelievable tales.

Everyone will benefit when the light of Truth and Revisionism triumph.