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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby Hektor » 1 year 3 weeks ago (Fri May 13, 2022 3:05 pm)

Mortimer wrote:Roberto Muehlenkamp has posted on this forum - I remember specifically asking him his opinion of the Luftl Report.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11231

Would Cockerill care to critique 1939 - The War That Had Many Fathers ?
viewtopic.php?t=7456

Does he deny that in World War 2 France invaded Germany first ?
viewtopic.php?t=11241

Does he deny that the Dutch and Belgian governments were working with their British and French counterparts while claiming falsely to be neutrals ?
viewtopic.php?t=12153


First and foremost, would he admit that mainstream historiography was strongly biased against the Axis/Germany and has become more so over time (When memories of World War Two were actually fading)? They like to leave this in the dark and bet on their audience believing that Historiography is somehow unbiased and somehow balanced between at least two position. But they are not. They favor a side that is already seen positively by the public and would be reluctant to write something in favor of a side that is demonized. Where they can earn rewards counts for them. So don't expect them to write something that will make them persona non-grata to publishers and respective institutions.

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby Iris » 1 year 3 weeks ago (Mon May 16, 2022 7:03 pm)

hermod wrote:
Delusional nonsense or skilful bluff?


I wouldn't use the word skillful in any way shape or form to describe Gl0spana.

Gutlessly evading any challenge to defend his delusional nonsense about the holohoax.

Now that fits Gl0spana to a T.

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby hermod » 1 year 3 weeks ago (Tue May 17, 2022 2:34 pm)

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hermod wrote:
Delusional nonsense or skilful bluff?


I wouldn't use the word skillful in any way shape or form to describe Gl0spana.

Gutlessly evading any challenge to defend his delusional nonsense about the holohoax.

Now that fits Gl0spana to a T.


Constant evasions and the word 'denial/deniers' are the biggest assets of Holohoax defenders. 2 tricks that saved the Holohoax from utter annihilation in public sight. The sight of Deborah Lipstadt claiming that Holocaust 'deniers' are like the people who believe Elvis Presley's still alive is very annoying, but that's also a very efficient lie and a remarkable deception. Shows that Jews are indeed "the great masters of lie" (as Schopenhauer called them).
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
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Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby Lamprecht » 1 year 3 weeks ago (Thu May 19, 2022 2:56 pm)

Cockerill appears unwilling to debate on the CODOH forum.

Why does he feel so insecure in their positions and points?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby HistorySpeaks » 11 months 3 weeks ago (Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:17 pm)

Hey, this is Matt. I am not "Gl0spana" or the Kiwifarms guy. Thanks.

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby Lamprecht » 11 months 3 weeks ago (Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:35 am)

HistorySpeaks wrote:Hey, this is Matt. I am not "Gl0spana" or the Kiwifarms guy. Thanks.

Great. Would you be willing to take on a simple challenge? Gl0spana was incapable of handling it.
From: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13321
Lamprecht wrote:It is claimed that three Operation Reinhardt camps [Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka 2] were “pure extermination centers” where over 1 million Jews were exterminated in homicidal gas chambers.

Alleged methodology of "eliminating the traces":
1. Dig tens to hundreds of thousands of rotting corpses out of alleged “gigantic pits”
2. Burn these many thousands of bodies on huge pyres made from railroad rails
3. Throw all the burnt remains, bones, teeth, wood ashes, etc back into the same alleged “gigantic pits”
4. Cover all the millions of pounds of physical evidence with “A thick layer of sand and dirt”


Claimed death tolls at the alleged CRIME SCENE:
– Treblinka II: 700 – 900 thousand
– Sobibor: 170 – 250 thousand
– Belzec: 435 – 600 thousand

TOTAL: 1.3 – 1.8 million. To simplify the math, let’s just go with 1.5 million

Quantity of human remains expected:
A 2004 study published in J Forensic Sci titled “Cremation Weights in East Tennessee” found that cremated remains weigh on average 2350g (5.18 lbs) per female and 3380g (7.45 lbs) per male. The minimum recorded weight of cremated remains was 1050g (2.3 lbs) for a woman and 1865g (4.11 lbs) for a male.

Keep in mind these figures are based on individuals cremated in a modern crematoria oven, whereas at these 3 "Extermination camps" the alleged hundreds of thousands of jews were supposedly burned in giant open air pyres. Naturally this would result in a larger quantity of human remains + additional wood ash. We can use 5lbs as the absolute minimum average weight of remains expected per alleged murdered Jew (it would actually be over 10lbs)

Quantity of burnt/unburnt human remains requested from the alleged CRIME SCENE(s):
– Novice: 1% of 1.5 million = 15,000 [OR min weight: 75,000 lbs / 34,000 kg]
– Easy: 1/10th of 1% of 1.5 million = 1,500 [OR min weight: 7,500 lbs / 3,400 kg]
– Child’s play: 1/100th of 1% of 1.5 million = 150 [OR min weight: 750 lbs / 340 kg]


From Yitzhak Arad’s book “BELZEC, SOBIBOR, TREBLINKA” chapter 23, The Erasure of the Crimes:
“The camp command was confronted with the problem of disposing of the large piles of ash and bits of bone that remained… Ultimately it was decided to dump the ash and bits of bone into the ditches that had previously held the bodies and to cover them with a thick layer of sand and dirt… [Eyewitness] Abraham Goldfarb relates: …’we secretly placed in the walls of the graves whole skeletons and we wrote on scraps of paper what the Germans were doing at Treblinka. We put the scraps of paper into bottles, which we placed next to the skeletons. Our intention was that if one day someone looked for traces, they could indeed be found.’"


Fraudulently alleged mass grave maps (total #):
– Treblinka II (15): https://archive.is/zz7UN
– Sobibor (18 + 6): https://archive.is/oQMJv + https://archive.is/CH6WS
– Belzec (33): https://archive.is/e96yU


Ten Simple Questions for gl0spana:
1 – Which of the 15 alleged Treblinka II mass graves can you forensically* prove contain the remains of at least 150 human beings (OR 750 lbs / 340 kg of remains): __?__
2 – Which of the 24 alleged Sobibor mass graves can you forensically* prove contain the remains of at least 150 human beings (OR 750 lbs / 340 kg of remains): __?__
3 – Which of the 33 alleged Belzec mass graves can you forensically* prove contain the remains of at least 150 human beings (OR 750 lbs / 340 kg of remains): __?__
4-6 – Same as 1-3 but instead 1,500 human beings (OR 7,500 lbs / 3,400 kg of remains): __?__
7-9 – Same as 1-3 but instead 15,000 human beings (OR 75,000 lbs / 34,000 kg of remains): __?__
10 – How many of the 72 alleged graves at T2+S+B can you forensically* prove contain at least one milligram of human remains: __?__


* to forensically prove the existence of a mass grave which is claimed to exist in a precisely known location, you must produce conclusive, bona fide, verifiable, photographically documented archaeological findings. In other words, you must post a photograph.


Again: it is not unreasonable to ask for photographs; all mass grave excavation guidelines insist that photographs must be taken of the mass graves. Some examples here:

Mass grave excavation guidelines / The “Mass graves don’t produce photographed bodies” lie
viewtopic.php?t=12889


Remember: It is ILLEGAL in many countries to claim that these camps were not “extermination camps” but somehow we have not been provided actual photographic evidence that these alleged “extermination camps” contain even one “huge mass grave” containing the burnt remains of at least 1,500 (1/10th of 1%) of the alleged victims. There is no logical reason to NOT excavate and photograph the [alleged] mass graves as it is a legal imperative that someone believe they exist.


U.S. vs. Prudden – U.S. Court of Appeals – Fifth Circuit – April 1970:
"Silence can only be equated with fraud where there is a legal or moral duty to speak or where an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading."


Remember: If the alleged Treblinka II, Sobibor, and Belzec “Holocausts” really did happen as alleged, then there actually would be numerous discernible extant huge mass graves filled with the remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of people to prove it. So this is not a historical issue per se; this is clearly about – SCIENCE – and all that is being done here is the common-sense act of simply asking to see the alleged ‘archaeological proof’ that the true-believers insist is so ‘undeniable’


Remember also: it is ipso facto proof of fraud – if a scientist refuses to answer pertinent questions about their alleged / insinuated discoveries.

Disclaimer: "Deniers" (published revisionists) do not argue that there are 0 human remains at these sites. Their estimates seem to range from 2-5% of the claimed death tolls of the exterminationists; largely due to deaths in transit, executions (punishments for attempted revolts, escape attempts, euthanizing incurably ill, etc -- but not in "homicidal gas chambers")
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby HistorySpeaks » 11 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:32 am)

Hey, I have responded to this on your "challenge to History Speaks" thread.

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Postby Lamprecht » 11 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:56 am)

HistorySpeaks wrote:Hey, I have responded to this on your "challenge to History Speaks" thread.

Here?
Simple challenge for HistorySpeaks
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14563

Not really. You deliberately avoided providing any real evidence for huge mass graves. I'd say a good start would be these 10 questions:
1 – Which of the 15 alleged Treblinka II mass graves can you forensically* prove contain the remains of at least 150 human beings (OR 750 lbs / 340 kg of remains): __?__
2 – Which of the 24 alleged Sobibor mass graves can you forensically* prove contain the remains of at least 150 human beings (OR 750 lbs / 340 kg of remains): __?__
3 – Which of the 33 alleged Belzec mass graves can you forensically* prove contain the remains of at least 150 human beings (OR 750 lbs / 340 kg of remains): __?__
4-6 – Same as 1-3 but instead 1,500 human beings (OR 7,500 lbs / 3,400 kg of remains): __?__
7-9 – Same as 1-3 but instead 15,000 human beings (OR 75,000 lbs / 34,000 kg of remains): __?__
10 – How many of the 72 alleged graves at T2+S+B can you forensically* prove contain at least one milligram of human remains: __?__


* to forensically prove the existence of a mass grave which is claimed to exist in a precisely known location, you must produce conclusive, bona fide, verifiable, photographically documented archaeological findings. In other words, you must post a photograph.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby Hektor » 11 months 13 hours ago (Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:27 pm)

hermod wrote:
Iris wrote:
hermod wrote:
Delusional nonsense or skilful bluff?


I wouldn't use the word skillful in any way shape or form to describe Gl0spana.

Gutlessly evading any challenge to defend his delusional nonsense about the holohoax.

Now that fits Gl0spana to a T.


Constant evasions and the word 'denial/deniers' are the biggest assets of Holohoax defenders. 2 tricks that saved the Holohoax from utter annihilation in public sight. The sight of Deborah Lipstadt claiming that Holocaust 'deniers' are like the people who believe Elvis Presley's still alive is very annoying, but that's also a very efficient lie and a remarkable deception. Shows that Jews are indeed "the great masters of lie" (as Schopenhauer called them).


They have entirely to rely on rhetoric and tactics to push there story through... Also have to go to length to score even little points.

...Later archaeological work in 2013 led to the discovery of remaining walls of gas chambers, which was suggested as tangible proof of criminal activity [1]. However, the most surprising discovery was the detection of ten almost fully intact male skeletons (Additional File 1: Table S1, Fig. S1-S4). This was particularly surprising, as the testimonies suggested complete cremation of all Jewish victims in Sobibór [1]. Based on the archaeological analysis of the burials and information gathered by local historians, it was initially assumed that these remains may have belonged to a group of Polish partisans, who were killed in the 1950s by the communist government and buried secretly in that area. A local branch of the Institute of National Remembrance, based in Lublin, initiated an interdisciplinary investigation towards the identification of members of the anti-communist underground movement. According to the primary assumption regarding the origin of the remains, they were further investigated at the Department of Forensic Genetics, Pomeranian Medical University in Szczecin. This institute curates the Polish Genetic Database of Victims of Totalitarianisms (https://www.pbgot.pl), with the purpose of employing forensic state-of-the-art methods to identify victims of Communist and Nazi totalitarian regimes in Poland [3]. The forensic investigations revealed unquestionable gunshot traces, which affected five individuals. Four of the shots were headshots, which are interpreted as the result of an execution (Additional File 1: Fig. S5). The artefacts were mostly damaged and corroded. The best-preserved items were described as personal belongings, however without any specific features that would enable their dating. The most significant findings were bullet casings that could be assigned to a type of weapon known to be part of the standard equipment of German guards in concentration and extermination camps.....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8343952/


Seems as if they found remains, but based on archaeology, they thought those must have been anti-communist partisans killed after the war. They assert based on bullet casings that they were shot by German guards.... That those may have been booty weapons in use by the Communists they don't consider. They went further and did try to attribute the remains genetically:
The largest published Ashkenazim mtDNA datasets are based on CR sequences [4–8]. We used those sequences to estimate relative frequencies of the haplogroups observed amongst AJ of different European origin (Fig. ​(Fig.1B)1B) and contrasted them to the distribution of the same haplogroups amongst corresponding European populations (Fig. ​(Fig.1C).1C). Both our data and data from literature show that all haplogroups established for the studied individuals correspond to lineages found in Ashkenazim, while being rare or missing in other European populations [5, 6, 9–12]. According to earlier studies, the ancestors of modern AJ are considered to be mainly of Central and Eastern European descent [9], with some evidence also pointing towards the Near East. It was established that approximately 40% of modern Ashkenazim belong to the four haplogroups K1a1b1a, K1a9, K2a2a, and N1b, which are otherwise infrequent amongst European and Near Eastern populations [5, 6, 9, 10]. The comparative search was also performed for the mitogenome data obtained for the ten sets of remains, querying a vetted dataset of 27,373 worldwide mitogenomes downloaded from GenBank. Full matches were found for nine of the ten mitotypes with all but one including mitogenomes of known Ashkenazi origin (Additional File 1: Table S6). In view of the initial hypothesis that the remains might belong to Polish partisans, further phylogeographic analyses were performed on a selected set of representative mitotypes observed in Poland (N = 540; Additional File 1: Table S6) [15, 16] and on available AJ mitogenomes.

Genetics is the new magic went to reveal stuff... How reliable that is, is of course another question, when you can attribute it arbitrarily. But only someone deep into it could find out. Anyway... Why do they exclude that anti-communist partisans could also be Jewish?

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Postby Lamprecht » 11 months 10 hours ago (Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:47 pm)

Ten fully intact skeletons with bullet holes means the individuals were not gassed. Sobibor had a prisoner uprising on 14 October 1943, and camp guards were shot as hundreds of Jewish prisoners escaped. So one would expect to find some executed Jews buried around Sobibor. What they have not found is massive, swimming-pool sized pits full of burnt remains, which is what the exterminationists claim exist at these so-called "Extermination camps."
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby fluffy » 7 months 1 week ago (Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:31 pm)

I happen to stumble across something and his thread came to mind.

An interesting thing to note about Cockerill is that it seems he is actually part of a network of right wing "JQ deniers".

Here he is established to be the proofreader for an article arguing against Kevin MacDonald:

https://vivare.substack.com/p/cofc-the- ... thropology

This network is generally comprised of either Jewish or part Jewish "race realists" who spend much of their time going into Telegram chats and very poorly arguing in favour of some kind of Jewish indifferentism.

I've not spent much time researching this but maybe it's worthy of investigation by someone with a bit more time on their hands.

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Postby Otium » 5 months 1 week ago (Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:50 pm)

fluffy wrote:I happen to stumble across something and his thread came to mind.

An interesting thing to note about Cockerill is that it seems he is actually part of a network of right wing "JQ deniers".

Here he is established to be the proofreader for an article arguing against Kevin MacDonald:

https://vivare.substack.com/p/cofc-the- ... thropology


Yes, exactly.

In that substack article the link to Cockerill goes to the "HistorySpeaks" youtube channel which "Chugger" (on Kiwifarms) aka. "Gl0spana" (on CODOH) promoted as his Youtube channel in which he intends to stream videos and stated he would be happy to interact with people. This is significant because when Cockerill discussed this thread on April 14th, 2022 he poorly tried to weasal out of the fact that when he posted as "Chugger" he not only admitted that he was Gl0spana but shilled the "HistorySpeaks" Youtube channel as his own. This is what Cockerill said about this issue:

Cockerill: "I did get triggered by this latest thing where they're attributing...uuh, these other arguments and views to me that I've never made, because these aren't my accounts right.

[...]

Well, again, it's not me, um, I don't think these individuals ever said they were me, if they did they were lying, but I don't think they did that.I just think there is somebody on CODOH trying to be [Harry?] Mason, and wrongly (sic) also one of these people was posting my arguments, saying my arguments, and it's because my arguments are pretty fucking compelling, I mean, you know [...] he was repeating some of my arguments because they're compelling arguments."

Interviewer: "It's kind of funny cos the video title is "Me methodically discrediting...", so if you make a post (sic), if somebody makes a post and puts that in there it sounds like they're speaking as you just cos of the title."

Cockerill: "Correct, yeah. This person [referring to Gl0spana, aka. Chugger, aka. Cockerill's comments on Kiwifarms] says "nevertheless I'm putting it up there only so people have an accessible platform where they can directly interact with me through chat", I mean, I don't know why he said that. I think he got two things confused maybe, cos I read on this thread too it was talking about like a podcast, maybe this person was lying that they're me, I don't think they were even doing that though I think they just got a little sloppy in how they were expressing themselves, you know?

I am definitely not "Gl0spana", I don't object to anything I've seen these people saying." [Unclear who he's referring to]

Matt Cockerill; Why Mike Enoch, Eric Striker, and Alt Hype are so afraid of even talking to him, Stream of April 15, 2022, "Based Takes" Youtube Channel |Youtube Link | Archive | Timecodes: 8:09-10:31.


Contrary to the interviewer and Cockerill, who clearly didn't read my OP very closely; it's not merely because of the title of the video, it's because 'Chugger' aka. Gl0spana promoted the video, and Youtube channel as his own in that Kiwifarms thread when we know that the channel belongs to Cockerill.

So in short, Cockerill is Gl0spana, he admitted it in the Kiwifarms thread by promoting the "HistorySpeaks" Youtube channel as his own, which indeed we know it is because it's this same channel that's linked by his friends in that substack article. His post hoc denial is worthless, particularly because it relies on the idea that Gl0spana was dedicated and smart enough to promote what Cockerill admits was his "fucking compelling" arguments, but too stupid or "sloppy" not to directlty attribute Cockerill's own Youtube account to himself! And this is his only defense, that Gl0spana was "sloppy" (how, he doesn't say) when he was promoting Cockerill's Youtube channel as his own to hold interactions and post podcasts (which is exactly what Cockerill is doing, he posted one with Norman Finkelstein for example). This is not a "sloppy" mistake, because not even Cockerill could illiminate us on what the mistake even was.

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby Archie » 5 months 1 week ago (Tue Dec 27, 2022 11:29 am)

fluffy wrote:I happen to stumble across something and his thread came to mind.

An interesting thing to note about Cockerill is that it seems he is actually part of a network of right wing "JQ deniers".

Here he is established to be the proofreader for an article arguing against Kevin MacDonald:

https://vivare.substack.com/p/cofc-the- ... thropology

This network is generally comprised of either Jewish or part Jewish "race realists" who spend much of their time going into Telegram chats and very poorly arguing in favour of some kind of Jewish indifferentism.

I've not spent much time researching this but maybe it's worthy of investigation by someone with a bit more time on their hands.


Cockerill has written for the American Conservative, as noted in the OP. My guess is that he is responding to financial/professional incentives and perhaps even explicit instructions to work the holocaust denial beat.

Jews put a lot of resources into managing the right. It's because they know that there is a large segment of the population that entirely dismisses established media and academia as untrustworthy. The main guy on the "right wing JQ denier" space is probably Nathan Cofnas who, to date, has published the only detailed rebuttal to MacDonald. Cofnas is an HBD guy and argues that massive Jewish overrepresentation in numerous domains is explained by IQ and other variables. Interestingly, this is an HBD argument that would normally horrify liberals and elicit cries of racism and eugenics. It makes sense that Jews would need others to handle WWII/history topics (which Cofnas probably isn't sufficiently familiar with) and tailor it specifically for the right. I think there is also a strategy in play to flood right-wing spaces with deliberately obtuse conspiracy theories as a means of reducing the market share of more damning material such as holocaust revisionism and JQ discussions.

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Re: Gl0spana and his Holocaust Antics - The last eulogy

Postby curioussoul » 5 months 1 week ago (Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:52 pm)

Archie wrote:The main guy on the "right wing JQ denier" space is probably Nathan Cofnas who, to date, has published the only detailed rebuttal to MacDonald. Cofnas is an HBD guy and argues that massive Jewish overrepresentation in numerous domains is explained by IQ and other variables. Interestingly, this is an HBD argument that would normally horrify liberals and elicit cries of racism and eugenics. It makes sense that Jews would need others to handle WWII/history topics (which Cofnas probably isn't sufficiently familiar with) and tailor it specifically for the right. I think there is also a strategy in play to flood right-wing spaces with deliberately obtuse conspiracy theories as a means of reducing the market share of more damning material such as holocaust revisionism and JQ discussions.


Instead, Cofnas landed a lucrative employment at a British university as some sort of professor.

Either way, Andrew Joyce has thoroughly responded to and deconstructed Cofnas' risible attempt at "debunking" MacDonald.


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