Please Convince Me

[Hannover]

You'll get no argument from me then.

The fraud of the so called 'holocau$t' as alleged, is in fact a real crime against humanity. It's a lie and great numbers of people have died because of that fraud.

- Hannover

[steve]

Samantha (and all), it took me about 1 year to completely realize the H is a Big Lie. (Meaning no Gas Chambers, no 6e6, no planned genocide). (Not to mention no lampshades, shrunken heads, killer bears and eagles, breathing thru gas chamber key holes, etc.)

Then, I felt obliged to relate this knowledge to people. And, when I think one may be receptive, I present my views and my case. And, I always mention that I'm quite aware of how bizzare my view seems.

Isn't it sickenning? To defend yourself for presenting a sane, truthful view of the H.

Steve

[Samantha]

killer bears and eagles,

What? I haven't heard that one... Killer eagles? That must make a great story :-)

Isn't it sickening? To defend yourself for presenting a sane, truthful view of the H.

Think about it, in public schools you can't talk about Jesus or push any religion... but you are REQUIRED to study and believe in the Holocaust. I guess that makes it our new state religion!

[steve]

I do not remember exactly where I saw the story (and I can't seem to find it now.), but, the source cited was the NY Times, 1996('95?, '97?). The 'Witness' in this story was a man names Glass.

Anyway, the story goes:

Every day they(the Nazis, of course) threw a Jew in a cage containing a bear and an eagle. The bear would maul the poor Jew to death and the eagle would pick his bones.

The New York Times: All the news that's fit to print.

Steve

[Dan]

killer bears and eagles,

What? I haven't heard that one... Killer eagles? That must make a great story

Isn't it sickening? To defend yourself for presenting a sane, truthful view of the H.

Think about it, in public schools you can't talk about Jesus or push any religion... but you are REQUIRED to study and believe in the Holocaust. I guess that makes it our new state religion!

Yes, that's why most Christians have taken their kids out of the public schools.

As far as the Bear and Eagle, it's pretty standard. One Jew a day was thrown in, and the bear ate the flesh, and the eagle ate the marrow of the bones.

[steve]

I found the Eagle and Bear story.

http://www.corax.org/revisionism/nonsense/881110eagle.html


So, apparently, I was mistaken about the source.

Now, I think I remember the story about the guy names Glass, again from the NY Times. It was that Else Koch (Kommandant's wife) made light switches from inmates' thumbs. (No, I'm not making this up.) Now I must try to remember where I saw that one.

Steve

[Samantha]

Oh, sure enough. My laugh for the day. I found some interesting pages about it.

This one seems to buy into every story no matter how strange, yet admits all the contrary statements at the same time. Weird.
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwal ... ities.html
Can't believe they would BEAT Konrad Morgen, hopefully that part isn't true...

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Em ... up_as.html

That's just what I wanted to know also, "Why wouldn't the bear have an eagle hor d'oeuvre and then it would be a solo banquet from then on!"

Look, what we just mentioned on another thread, how *every* Jew seems to have had a personal encounter with Mengele-- there's another example :-)

Okay, nuf of that. Off to scribble.

[Hannover]

I feel neglected. Don't forget this list of gems:
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=66

- Hannover

[Samantha]

Better not say "what a gas"... :-D

Ever read Tales of the Holohoax? That's got the jumping buckets and other nonsense... not the eagle and bear, unfortunately.

[Hannover]

You have indentified the essence of 99% of the story. It's simply stupid. That's why Revisionism exists. The story is absurd, and it really doesn't take that much effort to find out. Carry the word.

Here you go:

"The doctors proceeded to cut pieces of still warm flesh from thighs & calves and threw them into waiting receptacles. The muscles of those who had been shot were still working and contracting, making the bucket jump about"

- Filip Mueller, 'Eyewitness Auschwitz', Stein & Day

Hannover

[steve]

I always tell people (the ones I (sometimes)discriminately chose), that IF one was truly open minded enough to accept that it was possible the H is largely as Big Lie (admitted, a HUGE 'if'), then it's just a matter of time before one realizes it for themself.

It's really a simple story to refute. But, it does take time to overcome 55 years of propaganda. Thru schools, news, movies, books, etc.

There is a bright side, however. We can all chuckle at the absurd stories.
Tango of Death, surviving 6 gassings, getting pooped on for 18 hours while lying under a train, peddle driven brain bashing machines, etc.

Steve

[Hannover]

There will always be people who want to believe in wacky things such as
voodoo, burning bushes, Red Seas that part, virgin births, 6,000,000 Jews murdered without physical evidence via impossible methods; and general religious nutbar superstitions.
For the most part it's stupid, but no big deal; they can believe in whatever they want...that's the nature of religion.
However, with the nutty 'holocau$t' as alleged, the Believers and Profiteers have become dangerous. They have managed to get laws into effect that put innocent people in jail for simply questioning absurdities.

The 'Holocau$t' Community and their assertions are a crime against humanity.

- Hannover